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Am I just dumb or something because I have no idea what the hell that is....
I think it is a Michael Jackson thing based on the dates
Sheesh.
It's MJ passing the baton to Obama, silly.
Unfortunately I've actually lost the use of one hand due to a pretty horrific insect bite and so I wasn't able to model it properly in 3D or draw it - had to just work really basic in PSPX.
I stop playing and my hand falls off...typical (not literally hand fallen of, it's just huge swollen and red with much pain and itch).
So yeah, just expressing lots of sadness.
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What does the Baton stand for? And why obama?
Being the lead ethnic-minority icon in the world. Equality and stuff like that.
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Unfortunately I've actually lost the use of one hand due to a pretty horrific insect bite
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Ouch put some ice on that thing. =)
It spent most of the night in a sink filled with cold water. I don't wanna go to bed in case it gets worse, it's really painful and swollen! 
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Okay lets compare here is Michal Jackson dancing and now here is Obama dancing. Any one else see a difference? Just saying Michal Jackson was one of the kings of pop when Obama is just a politic they truly have nothing in common. IMO pop and politics does not mean the same thing and the two people have no connections at all and would be better as someone else. Not saying it looks bad at all just don't understand it.
[edit] Rest in peace MJ, forgot to say that 
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Being the lead ethnic-minority icon in the world. Equality and stuff like that.
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I hope this is a joke.
There are far better ethnic-minority icons that are far more respectable than MJ. Even in is hey-day MJ wasn't half the inspiration of Magic Johnson, or Will Smith, or Bill Cosby or Gregory Hines, or Morgan Freeman. Heck, even Omar Epps, and Billy Dee Williams earn more respect in my eyes.
Most African-American people I know have considered Michael Jackson as a source of embarrassment for their people than an inspiration.
And as a American who voted for Obama, I find it insulting to compare him to Michael Jackson.
While I seem callous to MJ's death, I do mourn the meaningless death of any person, regardless of who they are or what they have or have not done. But, I don't agree with the caliber of respect you seem to shoulder on him.
But, that's the great thing about freedom. The right to peacefully disagree.
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Most African-American people I know have considered Michael Jackson as a source of embarrassment for their people than an inspiration.
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Never got why people want to be called Africa-American what is wrong with being just called an American. Also is they embarrassment because he became "white"? If so that is pitiful for any one who thinks that way and can not get past the color of people skin weather there "black" or "white" or any other "color". 
[edit] I would also kinda want to see where you got these facts since you put "most" in there.
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Never got why people want to be called Africa-American what is wrong with being just called an American. Also is they embarrassment because he became "white"? If so that is pitiful for any one who thinks that way and can not get past the color of people skin weather there "black" or "white" or any other "color".
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Actually they are mostly embarrassed because he became an nutbar. Shall I make a montage of his Faux-General Wardrobe choices? or perhaps his obsession with having his nose done so many times it collapsed his face? Or maybe his obsession with Elizabeth Taylor? I could go on for days.
And I said "most" because it's the word used to describe "the majority" and the majority of the African-American friends, family and associates are embarrassed by him. Not all of them, but over 75%. Want to interview them? You are more than welcome to. Come on out to my town and I'll have a BBQ and you can ask them inane questions till your Cobalt in the face.
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Most African-American people I know have considered Michael Jackson as a source of embarrassment for their people than an inspiration.
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Never got why people want to be called Africa-American what is wrong with being just called an American. Also is they embarrassment because he became "white"? If so that is pitiful for any one who thinks that way and can not get past the color of people skin weather there "black" or "white" or any other "color".
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Actually they are mostly embarrassed because he became an nutbar. Shall I make a montage of his Faux-General Wardrobe choices? or perhaps his obsession with having his nose done so many times it collapsed his face? Or maybe his obsession with Elizabeth Taylor? I could go on for days.
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Just making sure you were talking about him becoming a creep.
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Most African-American people I know have considered Michael Jackson as a source of embarrassment for their people than an inspiration.
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Never got why people want to be called Africa-American what is wrong with being just called an American. Also is they embarrassment because he became "white"? If so that is pitiful for any one who thinks that way and can not get past the color of people skin weather there "black" or "white" or any other "color".
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Actually they are mostly embarrassed because he became an nutbar. Shall I make a montage of his Faux-General Wardrobe choices? or perhaps his obsession with having his nose done so many times it collapsed his face? Or maybe his obsession with Elizabeth Taylor? I could go on for days.
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Just making sure you were talking about him becoming a creep.
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Oh yeah, the skin color thing is waaaaay down the list fropm what I hear. Plenty better reasons to think him weird, I guess.
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Being the lead ethnic-minority icon in the world. Equality and stuff like that.
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I hope this is a joke.
There are far better ethnic-minority icons that are far more respectable than MJ. Even in is hey-day MJ wasn't half the inspiration of Magic Johnson, or Will Smith, or Bill Cosby or Gregory Hines, or Morgan Freeman. Heck, even Omar Epps, and Billy Dee Williams earn more respect in my eyes.
Most African-American people I know have considered Michael Jackson as a source of embarrassment for their people than an inspiration.
And as a American who voted for Obama, I find it insulting to compare him to Michael Jackson.
While I seem callous to MJ's death, I do mourn the meaningless death of any person, regardless of who they are or what they have or have not done. But, I don't agree with the caliber of respect you seem to shoulder on him.
But, that's the great thing about freedom. The right to peacefully disagree.
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Aww I wasn't thinking in that way at all. I was actually reacting to the media talking about african-american society group and organisations paying tribute to MJ for breaking into MTV and being a huge stepping stone towards racial equality. They were saying the chain was something like: MJ - Oprah - Denzel Washington (sp?) - Tiger Woods - Obama. But MJ was first, and achieved in music what the others achieved in other spheres later on.
Plus MJ wasn't really about race, he united people at a more fundamental level.
That's where the whole idea came from.
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Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix and Sammy Davis Jr. were better examples of successful black people in music, I think.
MJ made GREAT music back in the day, and it's stuff I can still listen to and can't help but tap my feet or shamelessly car-dance to while singing off key into my can of energy drink on road trips.
As far as the picture goes...I think there's a huge difference in being successful on MTV and becoming our Commander-in-Chief. I didn't vote for Obama, but I do feel like he is a symbol of our country's maturity. With the exception of JFK(who was catholic), all of our Presidents have been white protestant males. He is definitely a role model to black people, someone better to emulate than Li'l Wayne or one of the many less-than-spotless sports athletes running around.
In the end, I believe MJ was more one of a kind and there aren't too many people who could take a torch from him in many respects.
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It spent most of the night in a sink filled with cold water. I don't wanna go to bed in case it gets worse, it's really painful and swollen!
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Benedryl. If that doesn't work, go see a doctor before it really does fall off.
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Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix and Sammy Davis Jr. were better examples of successful black people in music, I think.
MJ made GREAT music back in the day, and it's stuff I can still listen to and can't help but tap my feet or shamelessly car-dance to while singing off key into my can of energy drink on road trips.
As far as the picture goes...I think there's a huge difference in being successful on MTV and becoming our Commander-in-Chief. I didn't vote for Obama, but I do feel like he is a symbol of our country's maturity. With the exception of JFK(who was catholic), all of our Presidents have been white protestant males. He is definitely a role model to black people, someone better to emulate than Li'l Wayne or one of the many less-than-spotless sports athletes running around.
In the end, I believe MJ was more one of a kind and there aren't too many people who could take a torch from him in many respects.
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Wait wait wait wait wait... Wait! Sorry to stray away from MJ here, but... I gotta ask, what does JFK being Catholic have to do with anything? It's kinda like pointing out the fact that Obama isn't black, he is Hawaiian. I know what comes next, "What does Hawaiian have to do with anything?"
Look at him folks, c'mon.. Tiger Woods is blacker than him.
Alright, back to MJ.
He was an inspiration to everyone through his music and benefits. He was truly a great person (not looking at the mistakes) and will be missed. Rest in peace Michael Jackson.
This thread also delivers. Keep it up.
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Aww I wasn't thinking in that way at all. I was actually reacting to the media talking about african-american society group and organisations paying tribute to MJ for breaking into MTV and being a huge stepping stone towards racial equality. They were saying the chain was something like: MJ - Oprah - Denzel Washington (sp?) - Tiger Woods - Obama. But MJ was first, and achieved in music what the others achieved in other spheres later on.
Plus MJ wasn't really about race, he united people at a more fundamental level.
That's where the whole idea came from.
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Well, I eat my words.
Yes. I believe you are right. During his climb to the "King of Pop" title, he did cross alot of racial lines. Brought a flavor of Motown to the Pop Charts, that were sorely lacking in African American influence. Not TOTALLY lacking, but not enough.
He made it "Totally Cool" for anyone to like an African-American Singer. Even the biggest redneck couldn't help but smile a hidden smile at "Thriller". Hell, I had an MJ poster on my wall, and a Red Pleather jacket in the 80's too. So, yes. He does deserve your efforts and respect for that. But, I think alot of others have came and went to be being a leader in an effort towards racial equality since then.
As I grew up I saw him de-volve into something alien. Something that didn't have all it's marbles. And I'm not alone.
I guess I sometimes focus too much on that.
Personally, when he went Wacko Jacko, he broke my heart a bit. It's never fun to see your heroes fall. I think that's something we all can related to.
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Wait wait wait wait wait... Wait! Sorry to stray away from MJ here, but... I gotta ask, what does JFK being Catholic have to do with anything? It's kinda like pointing out the fact that Obama isn't black, he is Hawaiian. I know what comes next, "What does Hawaiian have to do with anything?"
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That was a big controversy about him being catholic back in the 60s [ or so i've heard, way before my time; 80s child here ]
Yeah, I know that. (I'm a history major), but I'm trying to figure out what that has to do with this.. Oh well, it doesn't even matter anymore
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Yeah, I know that. (I'm a history major), but I'm trying to figure out what that has to do with this.. Oh well, it doesn't even matter anymore
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Happy Burfday.
The reason I mentioned it was because JFK had something different about him than all the other presidents up until Obama was elected. So if I were to say that ALL presidents were White Protestant males before our current Prez, then I'd be wrong. Just wanted to specify, is all.
That, and he was pimp as [censored].
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