Gaussian's "Spring the Trap" mission


Chompie

 

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I've run this mission twice in the past week and I noticed something odd both times I ran it - right around the time I rescued Lady Grey and pretty much for the rest of the mission, my endurance and recovery seemed to bottom out.

Both toons have Stamina, and one also has Quick Recovery. For the toon with QR, I never have end problems, even with all my toggles running, unless I'm facing a sapper or something. I don't know that the Vanguard Swords' powers include -End/-Recovery because this is the only mission that causes this problem. Is it possible Lady Grey's Dark Servant is somehow adversely affecting me?


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Even if her Fluffy were affecting you, Dark Servant has no means to affect your recovery.

And Vanguard Sword does have some -end/-recovery in it


http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

 

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Yeah, I read up on Dark Servant on CoHwiki, and I didn't see anything to do with End or Recvery, but I thought maybe it was bugged. If the VS do have -end/-recov attacks, it must just be the massive bum-rush as soon as you rescue Lady Grey that does it.


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It's the 'Curse of Weariness' attack that each of the (3) ambush bosses has ... it sets your max endurance to 50 and (iirc) lowers your recovery rate by 50% and it lasts until you either remove it or log.
The Vanguard crafting tables sell "Nectanebo's Curse Breaker" for 50 vanguard merits ... it lets you remove the "Curse of Weariness" effect (5) times.


 

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Is it possible that a boss hit you with the 'Curse of Weariness'? It's a pretty debilitating power - bad enough that you can craft a cure (Nectanebo's Curse Breaker) in the Vanguard base. I recall getting hit by it, and using the cure, but have no clue whose arc it was in.

edit: And Reverand_Clint beats me because I didn't refresh the page before replying.


Paragon City Search And Rescue
The Mentor Project

 

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Never heard of the Curse of Weariness. After I cleared all the ambushes in the big rescue room, I rested, and my end slowly climbed back to full. After it wasn't as much a problem with the last one or two ambushes. If the curse caps your end at 50% until you log or "cure" it, it certainly wasn't that, but it was odd.


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[Curse of Weariness] lasts for 10.25s.

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Just like how Stamina lasts for 10.25s. So, not really.

Curse of Weariness is, like the Mystic Fortunes (and I believe the new Stalker Woo Im Scary Assassin effect), a granted Autopower. It stays on you, undeletable, for something in the vicinity of 5 to 15 minutes. And yes, it is pretty mean.

It's certainly possible to fight while it's on you, but you've got to be really, REALLY careful about it.


Now, if you were soloing Gaussian's arc like I did, that explains why you didn't experience it before then. Vanguard Sword Bosses (and not even all of them, I think) have access to Curse of Weariness. I'm guessing that the mission you were on had a named boss. Whether that boss scaled down based on difficulty or not, it has access to Curse of Weariness, and used it, and totally messed you up.



Actually.. I'm shocked I knew something that apparently isn't very common knowledge.


EDIT: And I'm pretty sure it doesn't directly set your END maximum to 50. It's either a -50points or -50% modification, cause I remember having slightly more than 50 endurance with the debuff on me.
It doesn't even need to change your recovery rate, because how much end per second you recover is a function of recovery rate *and* maximum endurance.


 

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[Curse of Weariness] lasts for 10.25s.

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Just like how Stamina lasts for 10.25s. So, not really.

Curse of Weariness is, like the Mystic Fortunes (and I believe the new Stalker Woo Im Scary Assassin effect), a granted Autopower. It stays on you, undeletable, for something in the vicinity of 5 to 15 minutes. And yes, it is pretty mean.

[/ QUOTE ]Whoops, you're right. It lasts 300s with 10.25s pulses, not 10.25s. My bad, I was in a rush.


http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt

 

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As I recall both the Vanguard Magicians and Sorcerors also have either the Curse of Weariness or a -recovery/-end power(s) as well.

The Curse initially was much longer lasting (and may have been more debilitating but I'm unsure if and how much) but got nerfed after a bit of player uproar over its nastiness as well.

I'm also not sure how up to date the site is as no Rogue Vanguard or Vanguard faction enemy is mentioned either that I could find.


 

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Actually.. I'm shocked I knew something that apparently isn't very common knowledge.

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Heh. Don't assume that just because I don't know something it's not common knowledge.

I was playing on Rugged, so I probably encountered some bosses. Still not sure that's what happened though, because like I said, my end went back to full when I rested, it was just like something was sapping me, or causing all my powers to cost more end to use.

I will certainly be more wary bout future missions against the Sword now that I have this information.


(Sometimes, I wish there could be a Dev thumbs up button for quality posts, because you pretty much nailed it.) -- Ghost Falcon

 

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Actually.. I'm shocked I knew something that apparently isn't very common knowledge.

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Heh. Don't assume that just because I don't know something it's not common knowledge.

I was playing on Rugged, so I probably encountered some bosses. Still not sure that's what happened though, because like I said, my end went back to full when I rested, it was just like something was sapping me, or causing all my powers to cost more end to use.

I will certainly be more wary bout future missions against the Sword now that I have this information.

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Don't know whether you were simply seeing a "full blue bar" or actually mousing over the bar to see the numeric value but keep in mind a full blue bar could very well be 50 end, or 100 end or even 115 end depending on accolades, debuffs, etc. present. The Combat Attributes window should say what if any of those conditions are present on your character in a given moment.


 

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or causing all my powers to cost more end to use.

[/ QUOTE ]Curse of Weariness essentially doubles all of your endurance costs (a bit less than double if you have +max end from accolades or set bonuses)


http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt