Not receiving day job stuff?


Aggelakis

 

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Hey there. So my level 50 controller has been logging out in the tailor in Steel Canyon, trying to work on that day job. While he keeps making progress on getting the badge itself (being about 60% in by now), he has, to date, received no tailor discount coupons, despite my making sure to log him out there every time I log him out, usually for overnight "gotta sleep some time" purposes.

So, what gives? My 22 controller, Waddle the Penguin, is also logging off in the tailor, and he's stockpiled ten coupons already and is at about the same percentage of completion.

Is this just because Tubbius is level 50, or is there something I need to do, first, like log off somewhere else for a day or two?


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There is nothing special you need to do. Just log out in the location and you should start receiving stuff.

Or it could be that Waddle the Penguin is just a much cooler name.


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Weird. I've been logging out for 8-10 hours at a time. While I've been getting time on the day job, I've not been getting the tailor tokens with my level 50, Tubbius. Oh well. Guess I need to leave him offline for a few days and see what happens?

Thanks for the reply, Bashful.


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Well there's your problem. Day Jobs don't even kick in if you log off for less than 24 hours, I think.

They're really much better when you have a bunch of alts that get left offline for weeks at a time.


 

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Well there's your problem. Day Jobs don't even kick in if you log off for less than 24 hours, I think.

[/ QUOTE ]Nope. They register even if you log out and immediately log back in after only a few seconds.


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Well there's your problem. Day Jobs don't even kick in if you log off for less than 24 hours, I think.

[/ QUOTE ]Nope. They register even if you log out and immediately log back in after only a few seconds.

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Well, for about 2 seconds of time anyway. Timed ones probably expire by the time you finish loading your entry zone, if your computer's as slow as mine.

Point is, to make meaningful progress on Day Jobs, you gotta be logged off for weeks in total.


 

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Charged based powers/rewards however, such as the tailor tokens require a consecutive 24 hour period to earn one.

Wait until the last login shows 1 day.



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Charged based powers/rewards however, such as the tailor tokens require a consecutive 24 hour period to earn one.

Wait until the last login shows 1 day.

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Really? If I'd known that, I'd have complained about it!

And now, I will!

Logging in for a half hour every day would prevent the charge from ever charging, and that's not the spirit of off-line rewards.


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As I said, Day Jobs is really the most useful when you're juggling alts. Leave one for a few days to play another, and it'll be saving up Day Job time.


 

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Charged based powers/rewards however, such as the tailor tokens require a consecutive 24 hour period to earn one.

Wait until the last login shows 1 day.

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Really? If I'd known that, I'd have complained about it!

And now, I will!

Logging in for a half hour every day would prevent the charge from ever charging, and that's not the spirit of off-line rewards.

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Well, this isn't true for the Invention Discount Coupons (Entrepreneur Day job), since I had 5 when I logged in and used them all, logged off for about 2 hours, and I just logged in and another was earned in that time.

Edit: Just noticed that during that time I also earned a charge on the Enhanced Day Trader teleporter as well; went from 9 to 10.


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As was previously noted, it takes 24 consecutive hours to get a charge or ticket for a day job.

If you have the appropriate badge, the powers charge 20% faster - You get 20% more for powers with a duration, or get a single charge/ticket in just under 20 hours.

There is a bug which occasionally shows up that makes you earn a bubble of Patrol XP while zoning (which can include "zoning in" when logging in). From Katze's post, it sounds like this bug can increase Day Job Power progress too, if it happens in the right place.

Expect one ticket per 24 consecutive hours logged off. If you get more, consider it a bonus.


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As was previously noted, it takes 24 consecutive hours to get a charge or ticket for a day job.

If you have the appropriate badge, the powers charge 20% faster - You get 20% more for powers with a duration, or get a single charge/ticket in just under 20 hours.

There is a bug which occasionally shows up that makes you earn a bubble of Patrol XP while zoning (which can include "zoning in" when logging in). From Katze's post, it sounds like this bug can increase Day Job Power progress too, if it happens in the right place.

Expect one ticket per 24 consecutive hours logged off. If you get more, consider it a bonus.

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I'm going to test this. I logged in the character just now; no tickets. If it does rely on "consecutive" hours I've just reset the time, so I shouldn't get anything before this time tomorrow. If I get a ticket around the time of my previous post, then it would appear to be keeping track of total time logged off, or be a pretty precise 'bug'.


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Do you have the day job badge? If so, then the ticket will award early, somewhere between 19 and 20 hours.

But I can confirm that it requires consecutive time. My market toon had the Black Market day job badge several months before she got her first crafting ticket, because during that time I was logging in twice a day, before and after work.

And there's nothing "precise" about the bug. Quite simply, sometimes, while zoning, the server accidentally decides that you've been logged out for 24 hours in the few seconds you were zoning. End result is that you get a bubble of Patrol XP and, like I said, apparently 24 hours of progress on day job badges and rewards. The bug can happen ANY time you load a new zone, even logging in. It's very difficult to replicate though, which is likely why it still exists.


@Roderick

 

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Just logged in with the character; no coupon earned, and the count of time logged off should be reset if time accrued is dropped for 'powers with charges.

I understand what you are saying Lavitae. I'm just interested in testing it as there seems to be some disagreement, and if there is a bug, it gives more data to finding it. I do understand about the accelerated rate for having advanced badges, so by logging in before the 'earlier' awarding I shouldn't get anything at all.

As I see it, the time logged off is calculated to the second [at log-in] and then added to badges/accolades not yet earned and this amount is saved.
The time logged off is also used to calculate the additional time added to earned powers and this amount is saved.
To me it seems odd that during that process they would chose to use a separate routine [or drop all earned progress] for one set of day job powers. It is possible that it is a limitation of the code, or a non-intended effect of design.

One possibility is that the calculations for the 'charge' powers save the number of charges as an integer (dropping all decimals in the process), rather than saving the time accrued which would explain the behaviour of needing the time to be consecutive. If this is the case it would be nice if the time accrued was stored, like the other powers, and the truncated integer was passed to the power as number of charges.

Anyway, I'm curious.


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So, right on time I received an invention token even after logging in 3 times within the last 24 hour period, so either I have the very lucky circumstance of a bug awarding it to me only when I log in this time of day, or they have changed it so that the amount of time is kept track of as per the other day jobs, and consecutive hours for 'charge' powers is no longer necessary.
I'll keep an eye on it to see if any more coupons are awarded when logging in, just in case this was a lucky 'bug' awarding it.


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I have a couple toons in charge/ticket locations. I think I'll start checking in on them as well. If we can confirm that it's now total time instead of consecutive time, then we have another awesome QoL addition from i15.


@Roderick

 

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Sounds good. I'll see if I can track down one of my characters with a grenade/tear gas day job power and test it as well.
Yay for QoL improvements!


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