Returning and new to the dom, will I regret it?

Violent_Rise · 06-04-2009 11:25 AM

Hi all,

I just have a relatively quick question. I am recently returning to the game from a 2 1/2 year or so hiyatus and have serious altitis. I must have gotten 15+ characters around level 20 since I have come back. That being said, I finally decided to roll a Dom and so far I am having a blast with it over my other toons.

Now that I have prefaced it, i guess ill ask the question lol. I rolled a Mind/Elec both for the concept and because out of 5 years or so of playing this game - the break, I have never played an elec toon. So far its great but will I regret the secondary end game, ie. pvp and pve? Im not a min maxer by any means I just want to know if its a viable combo.

Thanks for your time guys/gals!

Chill_Out · 06-04-2009 11:55 AM

Welcome back to the game

I'm not sure you can go terribly wrong with a secondary. While I wouldn't count highly on the -END of your secondary, Electric does have some nice powers (Thunder Strike and Havok Punch), plus I find Voltaic Sentinel useful for extra damage.

I can only speak from PvE, however, as I do not PvP.

More importantly, you're having fun.

Chill_Out · 06-04-2009 11:57 AM

The only thing you might wish to consider is something like Power Boost from Energy. It is nice to have, though not essential. Just so you know what is on the other side of the fence.

Violent_Rise · 06-04-2009 12:03 PM

thanks for the responses. I am definitely having fun, and so long as its not going to be painstakingly hard to do damage with the set I will stick with it for the concept. It was either that or /fire but /fire just doesnt fit too well conceptually for me =D.

Chill_Out · 06-04-2009 12:57 PM

Elec does pretty solid damage

Here's some thoughts (excerpted) provided by Liliaceae on Secondaries in one of her guides:

"Dominator assault sets are not remarkable for the damage output, and do poor damage for endurance spent, but they are certainly effective and they allow Dominators to solo satisfactorily and contribute damage on teams.

Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels, only falling behind Psionic Assault at level 38 when it receives Psychic Shockwave. Icy Assault provides good AoE damage, Electricity Assault provides some in later levels, and Energy Assault's AoE damage is negligible.

Electricity Assault provides the best single target damage, followed by Fiery Assault and Icy Assault, while the rest provide acceptable single target damage. Thorny Assault and Energy Assault are hindered by long activation times, and Psionic Assault by its lack of heavy hitting single target powers.

Fiery Assault includes a very good damage buff from Fiery Embrace, as does Electricty Assault with Build Up. Thorny has a reasonable damage buff from Aim.

Energy Assault and Electricty Assault provide the best damage mitigation of all the secondaries because stuns, knockbacks and sleeps are a good complement for controls from the primary; Icy Assault and Psionic Assault both provide decent levels of damage mitigation due to recharge debuffs, making them the most effective against AVs; Thorny Assault provides some damage mitigation from Thorntrops; and Fiery Assault provides no damage mitigation beyond defeating the enemy faster with bonus damage."

Chill_Out · 06-04-2009 12:58 PM

Note that in I15, Dominators are receiving a buff in damage, so life gets even better than was the case when the guide was written.

Violent_Rise · 06-04-2009 01:17 PM

awesome, thanks for the response. Im pretty sure this toon will be my new main. I have to chill with the altitis lol.

mousedroid · 06-04-2009 02:00 PM

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Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels...

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What are earlie levels? From 1-19, Fiery Assault has one AoE attack, and it's a cone. At lvl 20 and level 28 it picks up two more that are both melee range. Do the other sets really have less low level AoE that that?

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dombegone_ · 06-04-2009 02:20 PM

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Hi all,

I just have a relatively quick question. I am recently returning to the game from a 2 1/2 year or so hiyatus and have serious altitis. I must have gotten 15+ characters around level 20 since I have come back. That being said, I finally decided to roll a Dom and so far I am having a blast with it over my other toons.

Now that I have prefaced it, i guess ill ask the question lol. I rolled a Mind/Elec both for the concept and because out of 5 years or so of playing this game - the break, I have never played an elec toon. So far its great but will I regret the secondary end game, ie. pvp and pve? Im not a min maxer by any means I just want to know if its a viable combo.

Thanks for your time guys/gals!

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Mind/elec is a great choice for both pvp and pve, though you may find you need to focus your build on one or the other if you don't want to spend tons.

Appartently the largest issue doms have is not enough damage, of which /elec and /fire are tops and offer nice damage boosting powers.

Additionally the proposed dom buffs coming after i15 will be very nice if you are strapped for cash and not looking to make a heavy investment in going from zero to hero in late game.

Violent_Rise · 06-04-2009 02:41 PM

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Mind/elec is a great choice for both pvp and pve, though you may find you need to focus your build on one or the other if you don't want to spend tons.

Appartently the largest issue doms have is not enough damage, of which /elec and /fire are tops and offer nice damage boosting powers.

Additionally the proposed dom buffs coming after i15 will be very nice if you are strapped for cash and not looking to make a heavy investment in going from zero to hero in late game.

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Good to know, as it stands with dom up at level 10 its really nice. Granted around level 15 or so mobs start to show up with high smashing and energy type resists and it only gets worse. It still seems like a great combo and, as you said, with the dom buffs in i15 it can only get better.

Its also good to see the dom community has a lot of nice helpful people in it, and I appreciate all of it.

Azucar_NA · 06-04-2009 02:49 PM

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Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels...

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What are earlie levels? From 1-19, Fiery Assault has one AoE attack, and it's a cone. At lvl 20 and level 28 it picks up two more that are both melee range. Do the other sets really have less low level AoE that that?

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Yes. Without including their damage buffs in aim/fiery embrace.

Chill_Out · 06-04-2009 02:51 PM

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Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels...

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What are earlie levels? From 1-19, Fiery Assault has one AoE attack, and it's a cone. At lvl 20 and level 28 it picks up two more that are both melee range. Do the other sets really have less low level AoE that that?

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I was quoting Liliaceae, so I won't answer what she means by 'early', though you can refer to her guide in the guide section about Dominators.

Counting, for the sake of discussion we'll use 1-20, there are the following number of AoE powers in each set:

Thorns = 2
Electric = 0
Energy = 1
Fire = 2
Ice = 2
Psy = 1

So you could add in ice, as it does have ISC and FB. Oddly enough, Elec, which is such an AoE set for Brutes/Stalkers, is decidedly ST for Doms.

Fire does also have Combustion, which I think you didnt count.

Chill_Out · 06-04-2009 03:07 PM

Also, apologies to Lil, I'm saying 'she' but not really sure of gender. Sorry if I'm getting that wrong. Didn't feel like saying 'it' :P

Argentae · 06-04-2009 08:09 PM

:-)
It's actually "He" IIRC, but you handled the qualification well, and Lil tends to be pretty stable, esp since you're quoting his guides ;-).

Arg

Azucar_NA · 06-04-2009 10:20 PM

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Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels...

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What are earlie levels? From 1-19, Fiery Assault has one AoE attack, and it's a cone. At lvl 20 and level 28 it picks up two more that are both melee range. Do the other sets really have less low level AoE that that?

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I was quoting Liliaceae, so I won't answer what she means by 'early', though you can refer to her guide in the guide section about Dominators.

Counting, for the sake of discussion we'll use 1-20, there are the following number of AoE powers in each set:

Thorns = 2
Electric = 0
Energy = 1
Fire = 2
Ice = 2
Psy = 1

So you could add in ice, as it does have ISC and FB. Oddly enough, Elec, which is such an AoE set for Brutes/Stalkers, is decidedly ST for Doms.

Fire does also have Combustion, which I think you didnt count.

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I don't see how you got those numbers. I got the following:

Thorns = 3.5 (fling thorns, thorntrops, thorn burst, ripper)
Electric = 1 (static discharge)
Energy = 1 (whirling hands)
Fire = 2.5 (combustion, halitosis, consume)
Ice = 2 (frost breath, ice sword circle)
Psy = 2 (PSW, psy scream)

UltimaDR · 06-04-2009 11:23 PM

actually with Elec...static discharge is a cone effect and thunder strike is its PBAoE.

Liliaceae · 06-05-2009 12:54 AM

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Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels...

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What are earlie levels? From 1-19, Fiery Assault has one AoE attack, and it's a cone. At lvl 20 and level 28 it picks up two more that are both melee range. Do the other sets really have less low level AoE that that?

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Fiery, Icy and Thorny all get their first AoE at level 4. Psi, Energy and Electricity have to wait until 16, 20, and 28 respectively. Fire Breath and Fling Thorns are better DPS than Ice Sword Circle, and get beefed up at 16 with a damage buff power. In honesty "early levels" could be stretched up to 38.

Liliaceae · 06-05-2009 01:03 AM

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Also, apologies to Lil, I'm saying 'she' but not really sure of gender. Sorry if I'm getting that wrong. Didn't feel like saying 'it' :P

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Gender is largely irrelevant in this environment. I advocate the use of gender neutral pronouns, preferring "e" in this case.

http://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/

I would have quite liked "it" too, if you think of me as the little green plant in my avatar. Typing away furiously of course!

VORI_M3zm3r1z3 · 06-05-2009 06:22 AM

looooooooooooooooool

Azucar_NA · 06-05-2009 01:53 PM

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actually with Elec...static discharge is a cone effect and thunder strike is its PBAoE.

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Thunderstrike is just splash damage. I should have added .5 though (since I did add ripper as .5).

Chill_Out · 06-06-2009 11:11 PM

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Fiery Assault and Thorny Assault provide the best AoE damage in the earlier levels...

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What are earlie levels? From 1-19, Fiery Assault has one AoE attack, and it's a cone. At lvl 20 and level 28 it picks up two more that are both melee range. Do the other sets really have less low level AoE that that?

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I was quoting Liliaceae, so I won't answer what she means by 'early', though you can refer to her guide in the guide section about Dominators.

Counting, for the sake of discussion we'll use 1-20, there are the following number of AoE powers in each set:

Thorns = 2
Electric = 0
Energy = 1
Fire = 2
Ice = 2
Psy = 1

So you could add in ice, as it does have ISC and FB. Oddly enough, Elec, which is such an AoE set for Brutes/Stalkers, is decidedly ST for Doms.

Fire does also have Combustion, which I think you didnt count.

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I don't see how you got those numbers. I got the following:

Thorns = 3.5 (fling thorns, thorntrops, thorn burst, ripper)
Electric = 1 (static discharge)
Energy = 1 (whirling hands)
Fire = 2.5 (combustion, halitosis, consume)
Ice = 2 (frost breath, ice sword circle)
Psy = 2 (PSW, psy scream)

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Lol, 'Halitosis'

I think we were just counting up 'AoE' stuff from 1-20, so it wasn't a complete count. :P

Chill_Out · 06-06-2009 11:11 PM

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Also, apologies to Lil, I'm saying 'she' but not really sure of gender. Sorry if I'm getting that wrong. Didn't feel like saying 'it' :P

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Gender is largely irrelevant in this environment. I advocate the use of gender neutral pronouns, preferring "e" in this case.

http://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/

I would have quite liked "it" too, if you think of me as the little green plant in my avatar. Typing away furiously of course!

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Good enough for me