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Lockdown: Chance for +2 Mag Hold

Chaos Creator

By Chaos Creator,
Posted on: 2009-06-04 10:43 in The Market and Inventions

 

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It's always worked for me. It does a Tesla Cage animation when it works.

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Work's correctly in my Fire/Kin, in both Char and Cinders. Cinders is quite cool when two or three of those things pops up.

 

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Heya folks, i was wondering whether this proc now works correctly or not - and whether it's worth slotting in my Rad Corr's Chocking Cloud
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Works great in there. I have it there on my Frad and along with the rest of the Frad ST we were holding AVs through PToD.

 

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I use lockdown +2, 4 basilisks, and a hami mez/acc in my choking cloud, and I love it. Could be slightly better on end reduction (only 60% ish) but hold and acc are capped and you get those juicy bonuses from Basilisks.

With the proc in there I can hold bosses in one pulse if Im lucky.

 

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I use lockdown +2, 4 basilisks, and a hami mez/acc in my choking cloud, and I love it. Could be slightly better on end reduction (only 60% ish) but hold and acc are capped and you get those juicy bonuses from Basilisks.

With the proc in there I can hold bosses in one pulse if Im lucky.

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Choking cloud does NOT accept accuracy enhancers...you're not getting any +acc from your HO...only the mez hold part is working.

 

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I use lockdown +2, 4 basilisks, and a hami mez/acc in my choking cloud, and I love it. Could be slightly better on end reduction (only 60% ish) but hold and acc are capped and you get those juicy bonuses from Basilisks.

With the proc in there I can hold bosses in one pulse if Im lucky.

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Choking cloud does NOT accept accuracy enhancers...you're not getting any +acc from your HO...only the mez hold part is working.

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Choking Cloud does not accept Accuracy enhancements, but that does not mean that it can not benefit from enhancements giving Accuracy.

Simply put, enhancements have (a list of) "types" and (a list of) "boosts". The types determine what enhancements are accepted by a power, while the boosts describe the effects an enhancement gives to a power that accepts it. When an enhancement has more than one ("basic") type (for instance HOs), it is enough that one of those types are accepted by a power. When that is the case, all of the boosts given by that enhancements apply to the power.

In the case of set IOs, the boosts given by an enhancement can be completely separate from its type. For example, an Adjusted Targetting: Recharge IO is of the type "ToHit Buff", but the only boost it gives is to Recharge. It is not a Recharge enhancement, it is a *ToHit Buff* enhancement that just happens to (only) boost your Recharge.


It is possible to make a power ignore a (type of) boost (see: "the Strength of Will treatment"), but that is a completely separate thing from what types of enhancements you can slot into a power.

 

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Stargazer sums it up.

There may not be a slotting option for acc in cloud, but the acc bonus from the HO/IOs cannot be stopped from working on the power slotted, unless the power is flagged unenhanceable (like recharge on SOW)

This is a well known trick used with HOs for as long as theyve been in game, and IOs since their implementation.

In a power like choking cloud it is invaluable, because it suffers from a lower accuracy to begin with, and needs acc,hold, and end reduction all to be as close to 95% as possible. So its nice to have a workaround to the no slotting accuracy directly issue.

 

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Hmm, btw would an EM Pulse combined with the Choking Cloud aura have good chances of holding bosses? With the stacking and all?

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If even one pulse hits on cloud and EMPulse hits it will hold a boss. Bosses require mag4 to hold, and cloud provides mag2 per pulse, with EMPulse being a mag3 i think (with a chance for +1 mag on overpower), so stacked they will indeed hold a boss easily.

I recommend using cinders for your AoE hold instead, however. EMPulse is rough on the blue bar after use, so unless you use it with consume shortly afterwards, it will leave you without a blue bar real quickly.

Cinders has a crappy duration, but with cloud backing it up, you will hold everything within 1-2 pulses of cloud, including bosses.

Just watch out for mezzing bosses who can hit you with a toggle drop before cloud can stack with your hold AoE. That leads to trouble...

 

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It's always worked for me. It does a Tesla Cage animation when it works.

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No wonder I could never see it working, since I put this set in Tesla Cage.