This is my official petition stating that petitions are not allowed in the forums.
This is my official petition addendum stating that the devs have nothing to do with deleting missions, banning missions, banning users or setting the generic flag. That is all the GMs.
This is my official petition epilogue stating that you don't have to worry about missions being deleted because before too long all the people who keep recreating and reposting exploit missions will have all their slots filled with banned missions and be unable to create any new ones.
Don't count your weasels before they pop dink!
LoL I can see already this was a mistake.
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LoL I can see already this was a mistake.
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As this is the first thread you have posted in, much less created, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
There is a huge firestorm here in the forums regarding the creation of farming missions in the Mission Architect.
The Devs told us from te get-go that the Architect was not to be used for farming, and that farm missions would be pulled down. If the creator persisted in making farms, they would lose publishing slots. If the farms contained exploits, in addition to losing publishing slots, the farm creator could be banned.
We knew all of these things before Architect went live. Two weeks ago, they informed us that the bannings would begin, which sent the forums into a tizzy.
If your missions keep getting pulled by the GMs, there are three possible explanations.
1) It is a farm.
2) It contains offensive material. You should have also received an e-mail if this is the case. If you republished this mission without removing said offensive material, you should have been banned.
3) The mission violates the EULA by being a derivative work. If you wanted to retell the Dark Phoenix Saga, and filled it with X-Men, this is not the place to do it.
Don't do these things, and your missions should be safe.
That is all.
New story arcs coming soon (ARC IDs will be aded when I finish the arc):
So, you want to join the Hellions? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
Sparks & Steel (level 5-20 Heroic arc)
and
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If your missions keep getting pulled by the GMs, there are three possible explanations.
1) It is a farm.
2) It contains offensive material. You should have also received an e-mail if this is the case. If you republished this mission without removing said offensive material, you should have been banned.
3) The mission violates the EULA by being a derivative work. If you wanted to retell the Dark Phoenix Saga, and filled it with X-Men, this is not the place to do it.
Don't do these things, and your missions should be safe.
That is all.
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QFT
I thought I found a fun mission to run based on 80's cartoons. What did I find? A total rip off of GI Joe, and not a good one. Seriously, how much clearer do they need to be about the rules for copyrights? I've been here since nearly the start of it and I've lost count on the number of times we've gone around on the EULA when it comes to copyrighted material.
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LoL I can see already this was a mistake.
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The Devs told us from te get-go that the Architect was not to be used for farming, and that farm missions would be pulled down. If the creator persisted in making farms, they would lose publishing slots. If the farms contained exploits, in addition to losing publishing slots, the farm creator could be banned.
We knew all of these things before Architect went live. Two weeks ago, they informed us that the bannings would begin, which sent the forums into a tizzy.
If your missions keep getting pulled by the GMs, there are three possible explanations.
1) It is a farm.
2) It contains offensive material. You should have also received an e-mail if this is the case. If you republished this mission without removing said offensive material, you should have been banned.
3) The mission violates the EULA by being a derivative work. If you wanted to retell the Dark Phoenix Saga, and filled it with X-Men, this is not the place to do it.
Don't do these things, and your missions should be safe.
That is all.
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Also, don't include words in your descriptions that lazy GMs will see in passing and assume it means your mission is a farm like "farm" or "influence" or "experience" or "hero" or "villain" or "and." These often get people's arcs pulled.
Also, don't use valid, dev-created content like levelling pacts because these will get your characters banned.
Also, don't make an arc or custom critter group that in any way requires specific powers or maps, because the Devs will only remove or change those powers and maps and get your arc pulled.
Also, don't mention offensive words like "lesbian" in your title because...well...Im not sure why. I would also stay clear of "Athiest," "Communist" and "Liberal" though because people can be offended by the fact that these people exist and will get your arc banned.
Other than that, have fun!
Ok...snark completed. The poster above me actually was fairly accurate, but I just felt like pointing out how it was far from that simple, and hardly restricted to only those whol blatantly, knowingly, or even ACTUALLY broke any rules.
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If your missions keep getting pulled by the GMs, there are three possible explanations.
1) It is a farm.
2) It contains offensive material. You should have also received an e-mail if this is the case. If you republished this mission without removing said offensive material, you should have been banned.
3) The mission violates the EULA by being a derivative work. If you wanted to retell the Dark Phoenix Saga, and filled it with X-Men, this is not the place to do it.
Don't do these things, and your missions should be safe.
That is all.
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QFT
I thought I found a fun mission to run based on 80's cartoons. What did I find? A total rip off of GI Joe, and not a good one. Seriously, how much clearer do they need to be about the rules for copyrights? I've been here since nearly the start of it and I've lost count on the number of times we've gone around on the EULA when it comes to copyrighted material.
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Did they replace "Cobra" with "Spyder" as a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world, and then just switch the blue primary color to black and switch the snake symbol for an almost identical spider symbol? 'Cause MAN that would be a rip off!
*ducks*
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Did they replace "Cobra" with "Spyder" as a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world, and then just switch the blue primary color to black and switch the snake symbol for an almost identical spider symbol? 'Cause MAN that would be a rip off!
*ducks*
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LMAO!
If only Capt. Mako had a shiny metal head...
Knowing is half the battle.....
Currently Playing:
A bunch of toons! (Freedom, Virtue, and a few on Infinity)
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Did they replace "Cobra" with "Spyder" as a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world, and then just switch the blue primary color to black and switch the snake symbol for an almost identical spider symbol? 'Cause MAN that would be a rip off!
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~laugh~ Nope. Total and 100 rip from the figures. I was impressed right up the point I reported it.
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If your missions keep getting pulled by the GMs, there are three possible explanations.
1) It is a farm.
2) It contains offensive material. You should have also received an e-mail if this is the case. If you republished this mission without removing said offensive material, you should have been banned.
3) The mission violates the EULA by being a derivative work. If you wanted to retell the Dark Phoenix Saga, and filled it with X-Men, this is not the place to do it.
Don't do these things, and your missions should be safe.
That is all.
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QFT
I thought I found a fun mission to run based on 80's cartoons. What did I find? A total rip off of GI Joe, and not a good one. Seriously, how much clearer do they need to be about the rules for copyrights? I've been here since nearly the start of it and I've lost count on the number of times we've gone around on the EULA when it comes to copyrighted material.
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Doesn't make much sense to me. You were looking for 80's cartoon ripoffs, found one and reported it. If it was a "not a good one" ripoff maybe it was/is actually different enough to not violate copyright?
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Doesn't make much sense to me. You were looking for 80's cartoon ripoffs, found one and reported it. If it was a "not a good one" ripoff maybe it was/is actually different enough to not violate copyright?
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No....
I was browsing for missions and one caught my eye that Referenced 80's TV. So I checked it out. I expected an homage, or a parody or something. Like maybe we were sent to stop the evil forces of "Vulture" before they could hatch a plot to rule the world.
Instead it was a mission to rescue Sgt. Slaughter, and Defeat Destro and Cobra Commander. And the cobra guys all looked dead on like their 80's cartoon counterparts.
Look, I'm a big fan of parody. I'm a HUGE fan of homage. I played a charcter for a long time who was a nod to Dr. Midnight. Same color scheme, but very different costume.
So it's not like I went to the search and said "I want to find a copyright violation". I actually figured that after ALL of the posts and discussions and Generic Heroes running around that FINALLY we'd be done with people who thought CoX was for ripping off copyrighted material.
Stupid me....
Edit to add:
By "not a good one" I meant that the mission was lame. It was an outdoor map with the nav objectives that were just names, not even "Defeat Soandso". I walked upt Destro stupidly thinking I was there to rescue him or something because he had only half endurance.
Not that it's plot or lack there of makes it any less against the rules, mind.
ibtl +1
dang, I want to see well done GI Joe costumes.
I swear we need a black market for illicit missions like GI Joe, Lesbian Hellions, and others.
Thanks to those of you with thoughtful replies to my post. As you can see this is my first time posting to the forums however I am by no means new to the game. It was interesting to me that someone wrote the devs warned everyone not to use ae as a farm tool more or less. I never once saw this in any information on release notes or about descriptions of the ae system in general. Did I miss these instructions because I very rarely read the forums? Or is it because, dare I say it, I am a selective reader? As for the content of my post it would seem that nearly all aspects of this argument have been covered here in the forums but maybe someone can answer me this: What damage will occur to the game or its players if farms were "permitted" to exist?
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Thanks to those of you with thoughtful replies to my post. As you can see this is my first time posting to the forums however I am by no means new to the game. It was interesting to me that someone wrote the devs warned everyone not to use ae as a farm tool more or less. I never once saw this in any information on release notes or about descriptions of the ae system in general. Did I miss these instructions because I very rarely read the forums? Or is it because, dare I say it, I am a selective reader? As for the content of my post it would seem that nearly all aspects of this argument have been covered here in the forums but maybe someone can answer me this: What damage will occur to the game or its players if farms were "permitted" to exist?
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Well, aside from being in the EULA - there was a post made to the Forums by Positron himself that was discussed in game for at least a week afterward. Unless you took a long CoX game break recently, or don't have any of the Broadcast or Chat channels select in you chat window, the uproar/furor over all this was pretty hard to miss in some fashion.
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What damage will occur to the game or its players if farms were "permitted" to exist?
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This is a massive hot button topic that will turn this thread into the worst kind of flame war.
The Developers believe it would be bad for the game. They said "don't or you'll have to go". It's their sandbox so sometimes we suck it up and accept their judgement. Whether or not we agree won't change the outcome and all it does is whip people up into a frenzy of Biblical proportions.
You might not understand it, but honestly both sides (pro and anti farms) have very very passionate reasons for thinking what they do, and honestly no good will come of another public debate/ rehash.
I'll send you the short form in a PM if you want it but don't bother trying to have a rational discusion on it on the forums.
TRUST me.
The above is the sad reason why the devs keep thinking the way they do. whenever any1 tries to honestly talk to the devs about the issue of farming the otherside makes 10 pages worth of flame and the thread is locked. I tried once, the people get lolsomad
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The above is the sad reason why the devs keep thinking the way they do. whenever any1 tries to honestly talk to the devs about the issue of farming the otherside makes 10 pages worth of flame and the thread is locked. I tried once, the people get lolsomad
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Hey. BOTH sides are guilty of making it a mess. It's not the pro nor the con's fault. People just get worked up and it's a mess. You might ~feel~ like you're on the side of reason and rationality but funny thing: Both sides think that.
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Thanks to those of you with thoughtful replies to my post. As you can see this is my first time posting to the forums however I am by no means new to the game. It was interesting to me that someone wrote the devs warned everyone not to use ae as a farm tool more or less. I never once saw this in any information on release notes or about descriptions of the ae system in general. Did I miss these instructions because I very rarely read the forums? Or is it because, dare I say it, I am a selective reader? As for the content of my post it would seem that nearly all aspects of this argument have been covered here in the forums but maybe someone can answer me this: What damage will occur to the game or its players if farms were "permitted" to exist?
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Well, aside from being in the EULA - there was a post made to the Forums by Positron himself that was discussed in game for at least a week afterward. Unless you took a long CoX game break recently, or don't have any of the Broadcast or Chat channels select in you chat window, the uproar/furor over all this was pretty hard to miss in some fashion.
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In regards to farming or any other method of "humans" gaining a statistical advantage being prohibited by the EULA,, I dont see it anywhere in there. If someone knows where it is can they please post up here what section of the EULA contains this?
Not that it will change anything because the EULA does state that content can be modified or removed for any reason with or without notice in regards to deleting missions. But in terms of the "act" of farming itself I'm curious if its actually prohibited.
This is my unofficial petition to get the devs to stop deleting architect missions. The morale of many players including myself is pretty low right about now because missions keep getting deleted that people enjoy playing.