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Dangit.. All I had was a Gigabitz, a local store, and they were sold out..(And RadioShack but that was a stretch) But I was directed towards a local guy who could have the cord extended in five minutes or less, and that's what I'm doing today. 
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As long as it doesn't entail speaker wire and duct tape, you might be OK. Cutting and splicing wires inside a computer case can be dicey (No Pun intended). Always use Electrical Tape, and always use the same gauge (as in size circumference), and conduit style (As in braided core or solid core) wire and keep the spliced portions away from any circuitry in case the taping job was insufficient and there is a chance for arcing.
If you trust this guy, then ok....
But, getting an extender or splitter that or properly made for this sort of thing is always better than "a guy who can make the wire longer"
Good Luck.
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No worries- he just grabs the wire by each end and stretches it! Splicing is SO for noobs. Duh!
(But seriously, I'd just drop the couple of bucks on shipping and get a real extension from Microcenter or newegg. It doesn't have the instant gratification of taking it to "a guy" but you have better chances of it working properly. The question you gotta ask yourself is, do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do you?)
"Don't unravel them-- your ears were meant to be that way."
-Steve Aylett
I'm sorta surprised the card didn't come with an extender.
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I was too.
But it seems I have another problem. I had the guy extend the power source cable, plugged it up, and hooked the other wires up and watch the screen to animate annnnndddddd nothing. Monitor says "No Video" and goes to sleep.
*>,<* I'm going to kill it.. 
Hold on I'll go get my Computer Killing Device Mark 2.5
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I'm sorta surprised the card didn't come with an extender.
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I was too.
But it seems I have another problem. I had the guy extend the power source cable, plugged it up, and hooked the other wires up and watch the screen to animate annnnndddddd nothing. Monitor says "No Video" and goes to sleep.
*>,<* I'm going to kill it..
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I'm sorta surprised the card didn't come with an extender.
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I was too.
But it seems I have another problem. I had the guy extend the power source cable, plugged it up, and hooked the other wires up and watch the screen to animate annnnndddddd nothing. Monitor says "No Video" and goes to sleep.
*>,<* I'm going to kill it..
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Humm.....
OK, reseat the card, all the other cards in the case and the memory.
Does the system beep at you at all? If so, what is the beep sequence? Wait... this is a Dell? There should be 4 lights somewhere on the system labeled A-D that light up Green or Amber. (Your system may be too old for those, but I'm hoping not) Try to find them and see what the light sequence is.
Can you put your old card and boot it without issue? If you can. then there is no damage to the mainboard, power supply or slot, So, luckily your "wire stretching guy" didn't kill the PC. If you can't, well.... something is wrong in Denmark, and it ain't the cheese.
If there are no beeps, and all the lights (if present) are green, the system is outputting video to the card or possibly the on-board video card if you have one. Try the other card output (It should have at least 2 connectors if one is VGA and one is DVI, the system should have a DVI-VGA converter try that.) Also, this just came to me, many monitors have both DVI input and VGA input, and do not have an auto switcher. Like my Dell Ultrasharps, they have a button that switches between the 2 inputs. If you are switching from a VGA input to a DVI input (I know the MX 4 had VGA only, and I think the new card has DVI) make sure your monitor is on the right input setting.
There could be alot of reasons for what is happening.
Calm down, have some dip, we'll get through this.
Just tell me more about what is happening.
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Aye, and the valiant efforts seem to be fruitless, sadly, I'm going to take my computer to the local store that installed the extension and see if they can figure it out. If not, I'm sending the card back and getting a replacement.
UPDATE:
My onboard video card (i.e. nVIDA) doesn't like ATI. That and the AGP slot might not take cards with a power source. So returning the card I have is a must, now I just need a video card that doesn't take a power source.. 
Any ideas?
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My onboard video card (i.e. nVIDA) doesn't like ATI. That and the AGP slot might not take cards with a power source. So returning the card I have is a must, now I just need a video card that doesn't take a power source..
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Uh, who's feeding you this [censored]? Neither the thing about ATI vs. NVIDIA nor the power source thing is true.
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UPDATE:
My onboard video card (i.e. nVIDA) doesn't like ATI. That and the AGP slot might not take cards with a power source. So returning the card I have is a must, now I just need a video card that doesn't take a power source..
Any ideas?
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Uh, who's feeding you this [censored]? Neither the thing about ATI vs. NVIDIA nor the power source thing is true.
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I agree... sounds fishy.
This would fit the requirements you list, I think- nVidia card, no external power. (Does CoH run on a 6200? It won't be pretty even if it does...) But before that I'd get a second opinion. Your onboard graphics shouldn't be interfering with the card if they uninstalled the drivers and properly installed the drivers for the card. And I've never heard of a conflict with a card just because it is hooked to a power soirce. Then again, I haven't worked on a machine with AGP for a long time.
"Don't unravel them-- your ears were meant to be that way."
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>,< [censored] it. Why must something always go wrong. *headdesk*
Have I even posted my desktop? Here.
Maybe there's something I missed on relaying information..
On I would guess the on board video card is turned back on and is causing the problem.
I would agree that its BS saying the Nvidia chipset doesnt like ati and its an issue because the card powered.
Powered cards are there because they need more power to give you the processing power to draw the high end graphics and has nothing to do with compatiblity with the slot. But can come from a AGP revision issue. I have not looked at AGP specs since I dropped my last AGP system years ago.
my guess is the guy looked at the age of the system and doesnt want to put a lot of time into it.
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Meh, well I don't have the cash to buy a new computer 
Sooo.. Any ideas? Just shoot em out there.. There's no wrong or stupid answer.
take out the new video card and does it post (start up and screen activity) with the on board video card?
I understand in not wanting to buy a new computer if possible. -- revisiting the thread for maybe more ideas
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Yes it boots right up.
The only thing that doesn't work is CoX.
During my searches to find some solution to your issue, I came across this thread. This guy is using an ATI 3650 in the same model machine you are using. (he's having issues, but those seem to be driver issues, not compatibility issues) The 3650 is a MORE powerful card than you are using and requires more external power than yours so who ever advised you should be drug out into the street and shot.
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Last time I had a similar issue it was my onboard video that was not turning off properly. If I remember (it was a while ago)I had to switch the order of the loading devices. From HDD to CD-ROM so it would load the drivers of the disk first and disable the other onboard video in safe mode. Sorry I can't be more specific it was like 7 years ago. More recently I was having an issue getting my HDD to play nice but that was a PSU problem.
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That's really weird Patchwork. The Boot Order? Well, it's not the strangest solution I've every heard of. But, yes, you are right about the on-board vid card.
I spent an hour talking with Gattaca and his brother in Game Chat trying to walk them through getting the card to work on Sunday. And nothing we tried would make the AGP card act as Primary Video. And the fact the eMachine specifically makes troubleshooting difficult so they can charge for support, made things near impossible to diagnose.
But, i've seen several examples of people using the same model eMachine with upgraded video cards, so there MUST me a way to get it to work. Electrohawk and I both thought it might be a bad card. If There was another AGP machine we could use to test said card, before Gattace RMAs it, I'd feel better. But, the only other computer they have is a more modern PCI-EXPRESS Dell Inspiron.
Maybe there is a jumper that can turn off the on-board video. I've seen that before. But not for a long time. But it's a possibility. The only problem is finding a manual or motherboard diagram to check that.
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I see 3 options right now.
1- the card is defective
2- the AGP bus is defective ( possible since he never used it before)
3- there is a problem with the bios not recognizing the AGP card. A Bios update could possibly fix that.... but this would be a last resort since if the bios fails... the pc is screwed.
I thought that he had a card in the AGP slot previously that he was replacing. Perhaps I'm misremembering now. The description of the eMachine gat posted says it has a "premuim graphics card" which suggests something other than onboard vid.
In any case, I'd be wary of investing too much more $$ in this machine, and start saving those pennies for a new rig. You don't need to spend thousands on the latest alienware, especially if you build it yourself and canibalize the parts that still function from the eMachine. At this point is seems like you might be rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
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It's true you may want a new machine, but this one is still usable and has value to it. If that video card worked, it would be a perfectly good 2nd Account machine. That's why I recommended a $50 card.
I'm just one of those guys who doesn't like to see something still usable go to waste. Although it is true eMachines are not exactly the premier choice for PCs, you have this one, and I'd like to see it get working for you.
I tried looking for a BIOS update for that machine, and no joy there. If I could find out the Motherboard Maker and Model maybe I could find it. But, going by the eMachines model was a dead end.
The AGP slot could be dead, but I find that less likely than the card being bad. If the slot was never used until this point, it shouldn't have any reason not to work.
My recommendation on doing an RMA with Newegg on that card, stands. When you get the replacement card, if everything acts the same, then it probably is the Slot or BIOS.
And then I'd recommend something like this. If you have the extra cash. That package + a $15 CPU Fan and a $20 DVD Burner and you have a decent entry level system that has plenty of headroom for upgrading. And the components are pretty good. Not the best on the market, but quality name brand stuff.
If you bought an ATI 4850 Video Card ($120), and uped the memory to 4 Gigs of 1066mhz DDR2 Memory (about $50) you'd have a very nice gaming rig for CoH.
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actually you are right. I vaguely remember something about a mx card. ( can't remember if it was here or on the tech forum.. I pass to much time in both place). If this is the case, then it leaves us with 2 options..
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Hari Kari or hiring a bum to murder us in our sleep?
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Dangit.. All I had was a Gigabitz, a local store, and they were sold out..(And RadioShack but that was a stretch) But I was directed towards a local guy who could have the cord extended in five minutes or less, and that's what I'm doing today.
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As long as it doesn't entail speaker wire and duct tape, you might be OK. Cutting and splicing wires inside a computer case can be dicey (No Pun intended). Always use Electrical Tape, and always use the same gauge (as in size circumference), and conduit style (As in braided core or solid core) wire and keep the spliced portions away from any circuitry in case the taping job was insufficient and there is a chance for arcing.
If you trust this guy, then ok....
But, getting an extender or splitter that or properly made for this sort of thing is always better than "a guy who can make the wire longer"
Good Luck.
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