Newb PVP Character?
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I am looking to try my hand at PVP. I would like a melee character (Tank,Scrap, or Brute). Doesn't really matter if it is red or blue side. I wanna stay away from anything that is just FoTM. I would like something that is good (doesn't have to be great)
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Generally speaking, if something is FoTM, it is because it is good. In some cases, such as some current defensive builds, it is good because of a broken mechanic, but in many cases it's just all around good. Don't take this the wrong way, but by saying you don't want a FoTM build, you are basically saying you don't want something that's good. For somebody that is just getting into PvP, I would actually recommend playing one of those good FoTM builds so you can get a feel for what PvP is without getting too discouraged by a subpar build. Few things will chase a new PvPer away than feeling totally useless due to a weak build. Get your feet wet first on something that is proven, then work on something that is a challenge.
With that being said, some good melee builds:
Ice/Super Strength Tank (nerfed in I14, but probably still good)
Fire/SS Tank
Spine/ SR Scrapper (heavily nerfed in I14)
Spine/Regen Scrapper
Super Strength/ Fire Brute
SS/ EA Brute (yeah, nerfed in I14)
If you aren't totally against Stalkers, then Spine/ SR and Spine/ Nin are both very good right now. Both will take a good hit when I14 drops but they will probably still be good. I haven't tested those to say for sure.
If you decide to go with something different, that's cool too. I would avoid Stone Armor, Duel Blades, and Claws at all costs as those are just not good sets for PvP right now.
^ what he said
Cool, thanks for the suggestions. The only thing I was meaning by the no Fotm builds is I hear Def is awesome now but gets wiped out in I14. I dont get to play TONS so I don't want to build something that will go from uber to suck in the matter of a day. So I really like something tried and true, which it sounds like fire/ss or ss/fire is the way to go.
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I would like a melee character (Tank,Scrap, or Brute).
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*Makes note to self*
He left out Stalkers.
See ya soon!
I agree with Antigonus a lot, and also would say those ATs are good, at least currently.
About the FoTM issue, the thing is our pvp mechanics lack balance and standards badly. In practice that translates to some powers nearly nulifying a good ammount of the other combinations; OR, being the one that is not nearly useless out of the options you have. FoTMs are somwhat that, the ones that will work against each other and decimate the other (majority) of choices.
An example would be travel powers. Of the choices out there, Superspeed paired with Combat Jump pretty much makes Fly and Teleport useless.
Speaking in general the Devs made it so that you have "x" choices for pvp, but out of them only a few will actually be competitive.
Somehow, sets that everyone likes and that have no reason to be considered less harmful (like Dual Blades, Assaul Rifle, Archery, etc) ARE considered VERY less harmful.
- Dual Blades Stalker Guide
- Mastermind guide to Pain Domination
Oh and yeah btw, since I'm not a Test Server person - what are these changes to Spines?
- Dual Blades Stalker Guide
- Mastermind guide to Pain Domination
Lowered the damage on Impale a bit. Nothing terribly significant.
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Lets melee builds even worse in PVP for I14. Wtf are the devs smoking?
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Lets melee builds even worse in PVP for I14. Wtf are the devs smoking?
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They're still viable, just not as ZOMG as they are on live (I mean, have you seen what Spirit Shark and Fossilize can do?).
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
That's a problem with Shark, not with melee. 90% Melee is totally gimp because of ranged fights. And they were only viable in Zones as well.
Nerfing their set skills just further makes them more worthless in Arena(if that was possible).
You're surprised? The people working on the issue are CoH developers. You really shouldn't be surprised that it doesn't make sense.
lolmelee.
srlsy.
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If you aren't totally against Stalkers, then Spine/ SR and Spine/ Nin are both very good right now. Both will take a good hit when I14 drops but they will probably still be good. I haven't tested those to say for sure.
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Yea....both those secondary's cant AS storms or bubblers......and Defense took a huge hit in I14 i recommend Willpower.....really does not matter primary..AS is AS...but Spines/EM/Elec/Dark are the main ones people take.
I am looking to try my hand at PVP. I would like a melee character (Tank,Scrap, or Brute). Doesn't really matter if it is red or blue side. I wanna stay away from anything that is just FoTM. I would like something that is good (doesn't have to be great)