What dose Illustrator have that diff from Flash..
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Posted on: 2009-01-27 19:30 in Multi-Media Fan Creations
In short, Flash has some vector functions.
Illustrator's purpose is vector functions.
Everything Flash can do, Illustrator can do with about 100x more options. They can both do the basics, but Illustrator will offer you far more in the end.
I've never used the flash program but.... after about 2 minutes of using Illustrator to do inking, I fell in love.
I love Illustrator. I haven't produced any art from it in quite some time but you can make some really nice stuff, not just inking, with said program.
I'm actually more of an animator than anything else so doing this sort of thing is not exactly my trade perse, but here's some old stuff I've made entirely with Illustrator:
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Of course, you can also make some really fantastic looking stuff from Flash as well. As far as just plain ol' inking goes, either should be fine. You get better tools in Illustrator that might get the job done faster for you but Flash should do an admirable job. So what do you think? Feeling adventurous? Want to learn a whole new program?
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And how do they compare to Photoshop?
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And how do they compare to Photoshop?
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After doing inking once in Illustrator, I will never completely ink in Photoshop EVER again. I'll take my basic inks from Illustrator and do some touching up/fine details on them in Photoshop and then color in Photoshop. But Illustrator saved me literal hours.
You recently got a Cintiq, right? I would think with how awesome Illustrator translates your brushstrokes into the digital world, it would be reeeaaaal nice on the Cintiq.
You can get a full demo for 30 days and all. Try it out. If you put a pencil sketch as a TEMPLATE into Illustrator, it will automatically bring it to 50% opacity and lock it as a background layer and you can do your brushstrokes on top in a separate layer and the strokes aren't automatically selected all the time.
NICE NICE NICE transparency use Bass! Sweet work. And the flash stuff looks ready for animation. I dabbled in Flash, and liked it a lot, but it was a different learning curve for me. I'd love to use it more, but I already have 3 programs that drive me nuts, not sure I have time for flash as well... but I do love it.
As to the differences, what everyone else said, and better than I could have...
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..flash and Ill-ustrator are vector drawing programs so there more
for making the lines then the coloring..
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The big difference is the vectors ... inking with vectors allows for a nice precision that "I" can't get freehanding in Photoshop.
Curve smoothing, stretching with no loss of quality, and other cool stuff. I like how it takes very little resources (PC wise) to build a picture that could be huge in the end since you don't need to work at actual size to have the line precision you want in the end. Laying down flats can also be very quick if you use you linework to build closed object that can be easily filled ... its just different. Better for certain things and not so better for others.
Would be great for cellshading look ... bad for a painted look.
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Hmmm, I never thought of flatting closed shape in Illustrator... not very intuitive, but I suppose it could be saved as a separate layer. You can get a painted look in Illustrator but it would require wire meshing, AND would take DAYS to do it well. Think of a human body made up of 4,000 squares, and you having to "water drop" color into each square, and then relate that color with every touching square. I wouldn't even attempt it without a lobotomy.
Yeah... I don't think I could fully color something beyond MAYBE cel shading in Illustrator without eventually going on a murderous rampage.
But for inks its Winny McWin.
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You can work and rework, upsize and downsize, add and remove curve points to your inking lines you've put down over and over without any loss of quality. Manipulation is quick but I don't think you could get work done as fast as a steady hand and a Wacom tablet. After inking is done in Illustrator you can then export it to Photoshop and do the coloring from there without any problems.
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Yeah... I don't think I could fully color something beyond MAYBE cel shading in Illustrator without eventually going on a murderous rampage.
But for inks its Winny McWin.
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Fortunately for me, my style is a bit more cel-shaded than realistic so using Illustrator for the entirety of my projects is actually feasible.
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Illustrator is to ink pens and markers as Photoshop is to brushes and paints.
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Illustrator is to ink pens and markers as Photoshop is to brushes and paints.
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Excellent, now please complete the essay question:
The shiny spandex boo-tay and how to make it pop using 4 colors only. You may take the full hour.
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Illustrator is to ink pens and markers as Photoshop is to brushes and paints.
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Excellent, now please complete the essay question:
The shiny spandex boo-tay and how to make it pop using 4 colors only. You may take the full hour.
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Use one color for shading, one for highlights, and the two as the spandex colors? 
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Illustrator is to ink pens and markers as Photoshop is to brushes and paints.
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Excellent, now please complete the essay question:
The shiny spandex boo-tay and how to make it pop using 4 colors only. You may take the full hour.
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Use one color for shading, one for highlights, and the two as the spandex colors?
[/ QUOTE ]Hey, I was just responding to the "How does Illustrator compare to Photoshop?" question, since I work with both professionally (prepress tech at a print shop). I didn't know there was going to be a quiz! Okay, here goes:
I'd find a bootay picture I wanted to work from, and scan it if it wasn't already digital. I'd then use PS to simplify the colors and get it down to 4 shades, pull that into Illustrator and start tracing manually with the pen tool, simplifying and smoothing the curves. (I'm not a very good original artist, but I'm pretty comfortable as long as I have some kind of existing art as a starting point.)
I pick a base color for the spandex, using a lighter and darker shade of it for highlights and shadows, and use a pure black for the cartoon/comic style outlining.
I know that coloring is bass-ackwards from comic book style, but I'm also not a comic book artist. I recently had to produce an eggplant and a sundried tomato to match the stylized, almost comic-book style of the veggies already in a customer's art, and that's how I did it.
Customer was happy, so I guess I done good enough.
im kinna bias cuz I LOVE LOVE LOVE Adobe ( macromedia ) flash... but what dose adobe Illustrator do better for inking artwork then adobe flash?...
..adobe flash has a bitmap trace to turn raster art to vector as well as a pressure sensitive vector pencil..brush.. ect...
..soo.. should I start looking into adobe Illustrator as another program to get?.. or are both them pretty much the same as far as vector inking goes??
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