It's a great guide. You need to alter the links on the secondary pages to point back to the summary page instead of themselves, though.
Thanks for the guide, had a few questions about Grav/Energy and it helped me abit. I was wondering how effective the damage proc was in Crushing Field, seems like if you are able to spam it that you could get a hefty chunk of damage from it. I've been looking into it as an option for my Grav/Psi when I get him made since he'll have endurance in spades.
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That's one well-formatted guide!
Well I come from a very different school of Domination.
Immobilizes: I see neophyte Dominators get themselves killed all the time with Immobilizes (and I've been the victim back when I took such powers). A level 8 Dominator using Crushing Field on a team is a dead Dominator. Taking the single target Immobilize for PvE is just about worthless. If you really want Immobilizes, let Singularity spam those out for you. You really don't need to do it yourself.
Total Focus vs. Propel: Sure, Propel is a fun power. But with an entire secondary of attacks, what do Dominators need this one for? It's meant for Controllers who need the attack and have Containment to double its damage justifying its long, long activation/animation time. Why take Total Focus instead? Damage: Total Focus: 148 Propel: 71 Yes, more than twice the damage. The two aren't even in the same ballpark. TF = great, Propel = junk (for Doms; fun, but junk) Being in melee isn't really an issue for Doms. Doms are a melee Archetype.
The tone you have towards those with different build and playstyle philosophies really should be addressed. You call anyone with a different viewpoint a "weak player" and imply they don't know what they're doing. This is unnecessary and frankly makes you look a bit petty. Notice how on my notes above I address the facts and not the person? You should do the same.
You come more from a Controller (emphasis on primary, secondary mostly used soloing) school of Dominator technique and I respect that. For myself I am much more scrappy with my Doms (emphasis on balance between primary and secondary, solo or teamed) and I feel as designed the Archetype is more at home with that approach (the secondary builds Domination much faster than the primary for example).
But these are all just playstyle differences at the end of the day. The guide is a good guide for those who want a more Controllery approach to Dominators. It's very well formatted and your numbers are accurate. I may write a Grav/Ener guide myself after I get my G/E Dom to 50 to clarify my own views on the combo. This guide certainly sets a very good standard.
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Thanks for the guide, had a few questions about Grav/Energy and it helped me abit. I was wondering how effective the damage proc was in Crushing Field, seems like if you are able to spam it that you could get a hefty chunk of damage from it. I've been looking into it as an option for my Grav/Psi when I get him made since he'll have endurance in spades.
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With just one damage proc IO (and Positrons Blast set), Crushing Field became the most damaging power I had on a large team. Since then I've added another dam proc. I can run the herostats and report back the actuals. You will already have some nice AoE attacks in Psi Assault though.
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That's one well-formatted guide!
Well I come from a very different school of Domination.
Immobilizes: I see neophyte Dominators get themselves killed all the time with Immobilizes (and I've been the victim back when I took such powers). A level 8 Dominator using Crushing Field on a team is a dead Dominator. Taking the single target Immobilize for PvE is just about worthless. If you really want Immobilizes, let Singularity spam those out for you. You really don't need to do it yourself.
Total Focus vs. Propel: Sure, Propel is a fun power. But with an entire secondary of attacks, what do Dominators need this one for? It's meant for Controllers who need the attack and have Containment to double its damage justifying its long, long activation/animation time. Why take Total Focus instead? Damage: Total Focus: 148 Propel: 71 Yes, more than twice the damage. The two aren't even in the same ballpark. TF = great, Propel = junk (for Doms; fun, but junk) Being in melee isn't really an issue for Doms. Doms are a melee Archetype.
The tone you have towards those with different build and playstyle philosophies really should be addressed. You call anyone with a different viewpoint a "weak player" and imply they don't know what they're doing. This is unnecessary and frankly makes you look a bit petty. Notice how on my notes above I address the facts and not the person? You should do the same.
You come more from a Controller (emphasis on primary, secondary mostly used soloing) school of Dominator technique and I respect that. For myself I am much more scrappy with my Doms (emphasis on balance between primary and secondary, solo or teamed) and I feel as designed the Archetype is more at home with that approach (the secondary builds Domination much faster than the primary for example).
But these are all just playstyle differences at the end of the day. The guide is a good guide for those who want a more Controllery approach to Dominators. It's very well formatted and your numbers are accurate. I may write a Grav/Ener guide myself after I get my G/E Dom to 50 to clarify my own views on the combo. This guide certainly sets a very good standard.
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I appreciate the feedback. But I disagree with you about the immobilizes. And your style is no less antagonistic than mine is. When I make my case I am offering examples of why a power is good or bad. That's the proper why to offer other players advice on how powers work. Some players will disagree, and resent the fact that I'm accurately describing how to do things. But that's the whole point of a guide: To give examples, evidence, and descriptions.
Looking at you're advice, you've specifically said that a level 8 dominator using Crushing Field on a team is a dead dominator. But you dont say WHY. Is that really valuable advice? What if you're wrong?
I can say that I levelled up SPAMMING Crushing Field. All it takes is a little common sense, as I pointed out in my guide. I used it multiple times per spawn, as soon as I got the power.
The same is to be said with your point on single target immobilizes. You cant call the power worthless with no evidence or examples and claim that your style of delivery is great and innoffensive. Why is a single target immobilize worthless? I made the point that it does effective damage, has an awesome animation, and builds Domination faster than almost any power across the entire archetype. It also has great potential for extremely affordable IO sets. And other points I've made over in my guide.
Your point: Its worthless because I wrote it down. That's really not the best way to make an argument, especially in a build guide.
I expect that it's less about my writing style, and more about my recommendations that will bother some players. That's fine, and I'm willing to debate my points. But we need to start with an open discussion, which most players arent at all interested in.
That would be great if you could run Stats, if not it's all good. Yea but come on, who doesn't want more AoE? I live for it on my Dark/Rad Defender and I know I would love it on a Grav/Psi. I'm a wee bit odd though. >.>
If you see me running, well, you know I've done something stupid again. Self preservation means you should be running as well.
So if I wanted to check the numbers myself, how would I go about doing so?
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That would be great if you could run Stats, if not it's all good. Yea but come on, who doesn't want more AoE? I live for it on my Dark/Rad Defender and I know I would love it on a Grav/Psi. I'm a wee bit odd though. >.>
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This is from a solo mission on Ruthless. AoEs like this really come into their own on a team though. I'm only able to hit 2-4 targets most casts solo.
Stat Name,Value,Per_Minute,Per_Hour
Average Damage: Power - Bone Smasher,138.109285714286,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Crush,193.208372093023,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Gravity Distortion,122.881129032258,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Lift,52.8136538461539,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Nemesis Staff,237.658888888889,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Power Bolt,92.233,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Power Burst,176.075909090909,0,0
Average Damage: Power - Total Focus,292.3025,0,0
Buffs: Given,5,0.212732614249823,12.7639568549894
Buffs: Received,36,1.53167482259873,91.9004893559236
Damage: Power - Bone Smasher,1933.53,82.2649783260922,4935.89869956553
Damage: Power - Bone Smasher (total),1933.53,82.2649783260922,4935.89869956553
Damage: Power - Bonus Lethal Damage,1095.4,46.6054611298513,2796.32766779108
Damage: Power - Bonus Lethal Damage (total),1095.4,46.6054611298513,2796.32766779108
Damage: Power - Crush,8307.95999999999,353.474809976592,21208.4885 985955
Damage: Power - Crush (total),8307.95999999999,353.474809976592,21208.48 85985955
Damage: Power - Dual Wield,1778.45,75.6668635625196,4540.01181375118
Damage: Power - Dual Wield (total),1778.45,75.6668635625196,4540.01181375118
Damage: Power - Gravity Distortion,7618.63000000002,324.146215380427,19448 .7729228256
Damage: Power - Gravity Distortion (total),7618.63000000002,324.146215380427,19448.77 29228256
Damage: Power - Lift,2746.31,116.845941168086,7010.75647008519
Damage: Power - Lift (total),2746.31,116.845941168086,7010.75647008519
Damage: Power - Nemesis Staff,2138.93,91.0040341194749,5460.24204716849
Damage: Power - Nemesis Staff (total),2138.93,91.0040341194749,5460.24204716849
Damage: Power - Power Bolt,1844.66,78.4838688404158,4709.03213042495
Damage: Power - Power Bolt (total),1844.66,78.4838688404158,4709.03213042495
Damage: Power - Power Burst,7747.34,329.622378336445,19777.3427001867
Damage: Power - Power Burst (total),7747.34,329.622378336445,19777.3427001867
Damage: Power - Total Focus,2338.42,99.4916399628144,5969.49839776886
Damage: Power - Total Focus (total),2338.42,99.4916399628144,5969.49839776886
Damage: Total,37549.6299999999,1597.60619080271,95856.3714 481628
Damage: Type - Bonus Energy,1778.45,75.6668635625196,4540.01181375118
Damage: Type - Bonus Energy (total),1778.45,75.6668635625196,4540.01181375118
Damage: Type - Energy,8004.93,340.581937157367,20434.916229442
Damage: Type - Energy (total),8004.93,340.581937157367,20434.916229442
Damage: Type - lethal,1095.4,46.6054611298513,2796.32766779108
Damage: Type - lethal (total),1095.4,46.6054611298513,2796.32766779108
Damage: Type - Smashing,26670.8499999998,1134.75192895297,68085.1 157371783
Damage: Type - Smashing (total),26670.8499999998,1134.75192895297,68085.11 57371783
Power Used: Bone Smasher,15,0.63819784274947,38.2918705649682
Power Used: Bonus Build Up,1,0.0425465228499647,2.55279137099788
Power Used: Bonus Lethal Damage,25,1.06366307124912,63.819784274947
Power Used: Charged Armor,3,0.127639568549894,7.65837411299364
Power Used: Crush,46,1.95714005109837,117.428403065902
Power Used: Crushing Field,54,2.29751223389809,137.850734033885
Power Used: Domination,5,0.212732614249823,12.7639568549894
Power Used: Fly,1,0.0425465228499647,2.55279137099788
Power Used: Gravity Distortion,64,2.72297746239774,163.378647743864
Power Used: Gravity Distortion Field,6,0.255279137099788,15.3167482259873
Power Used: Hasten,8,0.340372182799717,20.422330967983
Power Used: Hover,4,0.170186091399859,10.2111654839915
Power Used: Nemesis Staff,15,0.63819784274947,38.2918705649682
Power Used: Power Bolt,25,1.06366307124912,63.819784274947
Power Used: Power Boost,16,0.680744365599434,40.8446619359661
Power Used: Power Burst,49,2.08477961964827,125.086777178896
Power Used: Power Sink,5,0.212732614249823,12.7639568549894
Power Used: Prestige Power Dash,3,0.127639568549894,7.65837411299364
Power Used: Singularity,1,0.0425465228499647,2.55279137099788
Power Used: Summon Guardian,3,0.127639568549894,7.65837411299364
Power Used: Tactics,1,0.0425465228499647,2.55279137099788
Power Used: Total Focus,9,0.382918705649682,22.9751223389809
Power Used: Wormhole,3,0.127639568549894,7.65837411299364
Ah, I live for teams myself so multiple targets won't be a problem. Thanks for the data, it was quite informative. Seems like I will be throwing some procs into mine when I get him made, I'm sitting on the fence between Grav/Ice and Grav/Psi. Powerboost is quite an amazing power.
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