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I love Battlepope.
It's hard to believe it's the same guy writing " The Walking Dead"
I kinda see your side Hems, but seriously Anime does it the most with the butchering of relgions/mythos.
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i know, i love Anime, but when they start the norse names... it sounds so stupid... just like the random english words, and the sometimes randomly german speaking people, the japanese really likes german for some reason...
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It's not limited to just "foreign" religions tho, they butcher the crap out of Shinto'ism, Confucism, Taoism and Budhism... etc, etc...
I'll betcha good money you'll see another "A Journey to the West/Monkey King" anime within the next years or so.
Yeh, WWII really had a weird effect on the Japanese. That whole German Fetish is kinda odd.
Everybody is murdering something when they write their bio. Be it history, another character, religion, mythology, whatever. Most stories come from pieces of other stories, with added personal twists and flare. It comes down to what you like.
What's more interesting to you?
1) After a terrible lab accident, Billy got schocked horribly but somehow survived, infused with lightning. Now, he can control the power surging through him and uses it to battle crime.
or
2) A Longer, more detailed bio of what ive already said about Strome? Locke of hair etc.
I prefer 2, I guess it's a taste thing though. Shall we agree to disagree?
Ya, I gotta chime in on this conversation. I would defiantly fall on Hems' side of the fence as well... rip-offs really do crawl under my skin a bit. However, I love homage's, commentaries, and parodies. The difference between a rip-off and the others? That would be knowledge.
I do hate it when people just grab onto something from pop-culture (I hate that culture soooo much!) and use it to their own ends without ever actually trying to learn anything about it on their own. In the information age, there really is no excuse for ignorance... if something in some mythology or culture interests you, before you take it for your own use, research it a bit, learn about it, and you will be able to make a much more effective, well though out, and entertaining homage / parody / commentary / bastardization / satire of said cultural thingie. Not only will you be able to praise or butcher said cultural mythos so much more effectively (and probably in a much more entertaining fashion) but you would also end up learning something too... a definite bonus! I guess I just hate ignorance (though just to make sure you understand, I'm not calling you ignorant, Dante... I was speaking in very general terms about things that annoy me in relation to what annoys Hems 
... and might be more directed at that one version of Thor that Hems had ran into... Thor with wisdom? what?! Never mind everything else ).
Cultures have been ripping each other off since the dawn of time. In fact, the Nordic mythos was quite shamelessly stolen from the Germanic tribes. If I remember correctly, Odin used to be Twasmitain (or something like that... I can not remember exactly how the name is spelled or said... well, I never knew how it was said, I only saw it in print ), an Ostrogoth god of the crossroads and of travels. Along with his slight name change, he also got promoted to chief god by the Norse. Hell, Christianity even borrowed from the Nordic mythology (like they did from just about every other mythology )
Before the Carolinian monks (I think it was the Carolinians... but I might be totally wrong) began working on converting those barbaric Norsemen to proper Christians, there was no Christian hell. That concept (and name even) came strait from the Norse (after they stole it from the Germanic tribes... I don't know where the Germanic tribes stole it from though).
Every culture and religion in existence today had mugged, looted, and cannibalized those cultures that had come before. Since Archangel Michael was brought up (in passing, but, eh, I'll take it) originally, he was the guardian angle of the 13 tribes of Israel (at least I think it was 13... it sounds right... hrm) whose soul purpose was to protect those holy sons of god (all the other bastards on this planet could just go to hell... except hell hadn't made it to the Judeo-Christian world yet... it was probably in the process of being stolen from the Germans at that time ). Of course, after the birth of Christianity and after the original Christians grudgingly let those of non-Israelite decent (like those wacky Romans) in on it, Michael got a bit of a make over and extended his defense beyond the 13 tribes.
Beyond that little change in Michael, angels themselves have changed dramatically from what they used to be. The idea of a female angel would have brought about some terribly angry stone throwing mobs in earlier times (nothing that close to the divine could be female, the root of all sin, doncha know? and in some cycles of the Jewish mythologies that got edited out of the Christian mythos, it was the daughters of man that caused two of the more famous fallen angels to fall... Asmodius(sp?) and... another but I can't remember his name... he was the main demon that Solomon summoned to build his temple... ger).
Even the current well accepted image of an angel as a being with large feathery wings was an artistic invention in and around the dark ages (most likely lifted from the trembling murky remnants of the Greeks (after the Romans ripped them off of course) on the Europeans) as a symbolic way of representing a being that can travel to the heavens (the heavens are up, to go up, you gotta fly, to fly, you gotta have wings). Prior to that, the main mentioning of wings in connection to angels was with the class of angels called seraphim, which had 6 wings, one set to cover their eyes for even they could not withstand the full glory of god, one set covered their mouths (can't remember why), and the third to hold them aloft and close to god that they might eternally sing his glory. Then there were other stranger incarnations of angels... like nine eyed burning wheels of fire, etc.
And, oh dear, I've went on one helluva a rant... or tangent... or ramble. Totally off subject, sorry. So, to get back on subject somehow... so, Dante, are you aware that your character will have three wonderful siblings? And will he be as messed up as Lokie's other three children? Lots of fodder there for ya
Totally gonna shut up now :X
Well i put son in parenthesis because i wouldnt really call him his son. He was really just 'made' (from 2 guys mind you lol). I guess he could be a son.
I did at least basic research. If you noticed, I did more research into the actual mythology than I did into TA's (though he still started the inspiration really). I'm still in the process of research really. I've created his name, and his very very very very basicly one line bio and that's all. I'll flesh him out as I research.
If you look in my browser history, youll see wikipedia entries for multiple versions of Thor (myth, comic etc) as well as Loki. I'm not completely clueless, lol.
And that's why i put in the note that i wasn't talking about you 
. And, oh dear, so he's gonna just be a... um... step child? He's so gonna get picked on by the others... so gonna get picked on biiiiig time...Armies of the rotted disgraced dead are gonna pants him on a daily basses... poor guy
I've still yet to discover what to classify him as.
I've got it! Like that guy from the power rangers, Loki made him from clay, and zapped him into real life!...ok maybe not :P
Well, from the stories, Loki was pretty open and free about where he sired his children. Fenrir is one of his after all. ^_^ Though how Loki and a giantess had a wolf child is still a mystery.. but hey, nobody said myths have to make sense.
And for the origin.. hey, magic is a wonderful deus ex machina when it comes to these things. Loki is a trickster god. If you want a pseudo-scientific-magical reasoning... He took a lock of Thor's hair and one of his own and used them like DNA to force grow Strome with his magic.
SG Mate: Cien, what the hell is this Rookery thing?
RadDidIt: (interjecting) Dude. It's the Rookery.
SG Mate: Yeah, but what IS it?
RadDidIt: Silliness Incarnate.
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I love Battlepope.
It's hard to believe it's the same guy writing " The Walking Dead"
I kinda see your side Hems, but seriously Anime does it the most with the butchering of relgions/mythos.
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i know, i love Anime, but when they start the norse names... it sounds so stupid... just like the random english words, and the sometimes randomly german speaking people, the japanese really likes german for some reason...
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It's not limited to just "foreign" religions tho, they butcher the crap out of Shinto'ism, Confucism, Taoism and Budhism... etc, etc...
I'll betcha good money you'll see another "A Journey to the West/Monkey King" anime within the next years or so.
Yeh, WWII really had a weird effect on the Japanese. That whole German Fetish is kinda odd.
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As a person with a degree in animation, I do think I need to say one little thing in here about anime that I don't think is widely understood. One of the peculiarities that came up in my studies of animation in general(including anime) is that when something is not understood, they have a historic tendency to explore it through storytelling. This is true of ANY artistic feild in any culture, but the Japanese seem to be a little less abashed about running with it. In the modern era, one of the most prevalent storytelling vehicles in Japan is animation. And one of the things that culturally they tend to not understand so well is the (especially western) preoccupation with our specific, myriad religions and mythologies. this is why you see so much in the way of slightly odd religious and mythological themes in anime. Because it's not just entertainment out there, whereas in the more western-thinking areas of the world, we tend to tell stories primarily for entertainment value, or at least see them that way.
One fairly good example I read about off the top of my head is Hellsing, which explores as a side note the admittedly strange and complicated relationship between Catholicism and Protestantism through that whole side-bit with Hellsing versus the Vatican.
That said, I realize this may be WAY off-base. The information I had available to study this... phenomenon, as it were, was predominately Western in origin, and we all know how often humans tend to *think* they understand other cultures when they really don't. So I'll leave room for error here. But it at least seems to bear weight against some of the interviews I've read/seen with Japanese directors and the like. As with any culture, the artists and directors and such tell stories about things that fascinate them. And often fascination in borne of a lack of understanding.
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Jumping totally off topic... Su_Lin, you have one of my favourite quotes from one of my favourite shows in your sig. Only thing that'd top it off for me would be seeing someone with Vir's wave to Mordin's head as an avatar 
I wonder where TA is... hmm.
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Jumping totally off topic... Su_Lin, you have one of my favourite quotes from one of my favourite shows in your sig. Only thing that'd top it off for me would be seeing someone with Vir's wave to Mordin's head as an avatar
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The fact that it's in my sig and the fact it's one of the best lines ever from one of the best characters ever is in no way connected.
Now excuse me, I must rummage in my closet for new shoes. This pair is too tight, and I've forgotten how to dance. And though whatever it is, it can't be that bad, this... this is wrong tool.
Now I wonder where everyone went 
lol. I dont think anybody likes me *hangs head and walks away, shoulders slumped*
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I love Battlepope.
It's hard to believe it's the same guy writing " The Walking Dead"
I kinda see your side Hems, but seriously Anime does it the most with the butchering of relgions/mythos.
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i know, i love Anime, but when they start the norse names... it sounds so stupid... just like the random english words, and the sometimes randomly german speaking people, the japanese really likes german for some reason...