New Clockwork Background Section
By
Arctic Sun,
Posted on: 2005-11-11 14:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Eh... it's still not as bad as Parallax and what that did with Jordan
By the catapillars hooka you WILL smile!
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, Malaise was techincaly had two personalities, one evil, one good, and the evil one was dominate. Sister Psyche surpressed the evil side.
As for Blue Steel, yeah, he's kinda evil now. Everyone! Lets go start an angry mob in Kings Row!
[/ QUOTE ]
Right, schizophrenic, but what did Psyche do? She constantly used her powers to supress his other personality. They didn't get him professional psychiatric help after that, they just kept Psyche on task to keep him brain-washed, and the moment that link was broken during the task force, he flips out and goes back to being evil.
I agree with you jack. I don't think the devs really thought that through. They left the ultimate cliff hanger with that TF, and i don't think they will ever tell us what happened to Malaise.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Eh... it's still not as bad as Parallax and what that did with Jordan
[/ QUOTE ]
Completely different scenario. All Hal did as Parallax was try to recreate the universe. He was a villain, sure, but aside from the score of Lanterns he killed on his way to Oa, he wasn't a murderous super-villain. He was just a power-hungry lunatic who was trying to fix the universe. You can't compare Blue Steel to that.
Blue Steel killing the man who would become the Clockwork King would be more like Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord recently. She killed him so that he wouldn't control Superman's mind anymore, after Clark almost killed Bruce and Diana, but she could've kept him in her lasso long enough for him to be telepathically numbed and then sent to prison. What she did wasn't entirely wrong, but it was kind of preventable. Blue Steel just killed a guy in anger.
[ QUOTE ]
I agree with you jack. I don't think the devs really thought that through. They left the ultimate cliff hanger with that TF, and i don't think they will ever tell us what happened to Malaise.
[/ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't bank on him disappearing forever. In fact, with City of Villains out now, I bet we'll be seeing him again soon. Someone's gotta' break Reichsman out of his cell, and he most likely had access to a lot of important numbers as a Freedom Phalanx member.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, Malaise was techincaly had two personalities, one evil, one good, and the evil one was dominate. Sister Psyche surpressed the evil side.
As for Blue Steel, yeah, he's kinda evil now. Everyone! Lets go start an angry mob in Kings Row!
[/ QUOTE ]
Right, schizophrenic, but what did Psyche do? She constantly used her powers to supress his other personality. They didn't get him professional psychiatric help after that, they just kept Psyche on task to keep him brain-washed, and the moment that link was broken during the task force, he flips out and goes back to being evil.
[/ QUOTE ]
That's a good point, of course, we are assuming that this works for Psychics who's other personality is almost phyical. But Psyche isn't the best person as she has freely admited (okay, that's paraphrased from Hickman's arc) and took over the body of another women to keep on fighting crime. Granted Aurora was honored to hold her, but it also pretty much ruined her mariage for two years. Malaise was greatful to have his evil side surpressed, even if it meant a cnstant link.
Assumption, Sister Psyche is acctualy Mother Mayhem or is only a few steps away from being her.
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the kind words, guys!
cheers,
Arctic_Sun
[/ QUOTE ]
Happy BDAY Sun! and yeah it was a reallly good one.
Arc ID: 475246, "Bringing a Lord to Power"
"I'm only a simple man trying to cling to my tomorrow. Every day. By any means necessary."
-Caldwell B. Cladwell
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I agree with you jack. I don't think the devs really thought that through. They left the ultimate cliff hanger with that TF, and i don't think they will ever tell us what happened to Malaise.
[/ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't bank on him disappearing forever. In fact, with City of Villains out now, I bet we'll be seeing him again soon. Someone's gotta' break Reichsman out of his cell, and he most likely had access to a lot of important numbers as a Freedom Phalanx member.
[/ QUOTE ]
That is a good point. But still, you have to admit the chances of Malaise coming back soon are close to 0. He'll most likely be back in I4 or I5 of CoV.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, Malaise was techincaly had two personalities, one evil, one good, and the evil one was dominate. Sister Psyche surpressed the evil side.
As for Blue Steel, yeah, he's kinda evil now. Everyone! Lets go start an angry mob in Kings Row!
[/ QUOTE ]
Right, schizophrenic, but what did Psyche do? She constantly used her powers to supress his other personality. They didn't get him professional psychiatric help after that, they just kept Psyche on task to keep him brain-washed, and the moment that link was broken during the task force, he flips out and goes back to being evil.
[/ QUOTE ]
That's a good point, of course, we are assuming that this works for Psychics who's other personality is almost phyical. But Psyche isn't the best person as she has freely admited (okay, that's paraphrased from Hickman's arc) and took over the body of another women to keep on fighting crime. Granted Aurora was honored to hold her, but it also pretty much ruined her mariage for two years. Malaise was greatful to have his evil side surpressed, even if it meant a cnstant link.
Assumption, Sister Psyche is acctualy Mother Mayhem or is only a few steps away from being her.
[/ QUOTE ]
One of his personalities was greatful, I'm sure, but the other one was pissed off at being supressed, and now that it's dominant again we should all expect him to retaliate, somethin' fierce.
And it's been a while since I fought Mother Mayhem, but is she still Aurora, or have they replaced her with an evil Sister Psyche?
[ QUOTE ]
Someone's gotta' break Reichsman out of his cell, and he most likely had access to a lot of important numbers as a Freedom Phalanx member.
[/ QUOTE ]
That makes me wonder, Lord Recluse hates Statesman, would that hate expand to alternate versions of Statesman? Would Lord Recluse see an evil Statesman (Like Reichsman or Tyrant) as a threat or ally? I mean, in a one-on-one fight, Recluse is a half-notch below Statesman (Comic book fight based), and I doubt Tyrant or Reichsman would share the world with Recluse.
Always makes me wonder how Lord Recluse would view his heroic double from the Preatorian's world, and what his name would be (Lord Auger maybe? and I used Thesaurus.com to come up with that :P )
I sit in my zen of not being able to do anything right while simultaniously not being able to do anything wrong. Om. -CuppaJo
It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, Malaise was techincaly had two personalities, one evil, one good, and the evil one was dominate. Sister Psyche surpressed the evil side.
As for Blue Steel, yeah, he's kinda evil now. Everyone! Lets go start an angry mob in Kings Row!
[/ QUOTE ]
Right, schizophrenic, but what did Psyche do? She constantly used her powers to supress his other personality. They didn't get him professional psychiatric help after that, they just kept Psyche on task to keep him brain-washed, and the moment that link was broken during the task force, he flips out and goes back to being evil.
[/ QUOTE ]
That's a good point, of course, we are assuming that this works for Psychics who's other personality is almost phyical. But Psyche isn't the best person as she has freely admited (okay, that's paraphrased from Hickman's arc) and took over the body of another women to keep on fighting crime. Granted Aurora was honored to hold her, but it also pretty much ruined her mariage for two years. Malaise was greatful to have his evil side surpressed, even if it meant a cnstant link.
Assumption, Sister Psyche is acctualy Mother Mayhem or is only a few steps away from being her.
[/ QUOTE ]
One of his personalities was greatful, I'm sure, but the other one was pissed off at being supressed, and now that it's dominant again we should all expect him to retaliate, somethin' fierce.
And it's been a while since I fought Mother Mayhem, but is she still Aurora, or have they replaced her with an evil Sister Psyche?
[/ QUOTE ]
Still Aurora, or as she's called on Preatorian Earth, Nothern Lights.
As for my agrgument, I think you misunderstood. I'm saying Psyche isn't a good person trying to do what she can to help people while being an amazingly powerful Psychic. I think it supports the theory that there are some definate problems within the Phalanx. She has power enough to help Malaise, she decided to use them and did what she thought was right, which in this case senerio probably wasn't the right thing to do.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Someone's gotta' break Reichsman out of his cell, and he most likely had access to a lot of important numbers as a Freedom Phalanx member.
[/ QUOTE ]
That makes me wonder, Lord Recluse hates Statesman, would that hate expand to alternate versions of Statesman? Would Lord Recluse see an evil Statesman (Like Reichsman or Tyrant) as a threat or ally? I mean, in a one-on-one fight, Recluse is a half-notch below Statesman (Comic book fight based), and I doubt Tyrant or Reichsman would share the world with Recluse.
Always makes me wonder how Lord Recluse would view his heroic double from the Preatorian's world, and what his name would be (Lord Auger maybe? and I used Thesaurus.com to come up with that :P )
[/ QUOTE ]
Tyrant wouldn't abide sharing power with Recluse, as he was constantly at odd with both Neuron and Anti-Matter on his Earth, so on Primal Earth I doubt he and Recluse could work together. As for Reichsman, we don't know anything about him. He's a super powered Nazi version of Statesman, who may or may not have gotten his powers from the well, and may or may not have a Lord Recluse on his Earth. He led the Amerika Korps through Portal Court, and was apparently the only super being in his nation (meaning there weren't any Nazi versions of Miss Liberty or Synapse or anyone on his world that came with him), so he might be territorial as well, meaning he might not work with Recluse. However, he's alone in this world with no real way back home on his own, so allies wouldn't hurt.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, Malaise was techincaly had two personalities, one evil, one good, and the evil one was dominate. Sister Psyche surpressed the evil side.
As for Blue Steel, yeah, he's kinda evil now. Everyone! Lets go start an angry mob in Kings Row!
[/ QUOTE ]
Right, schizophrenic, but what did Psyche do? She constantly used her powers to supress his other personality. They didn't get him professional psychiatric help after that, they just kept Psyche on task to keep him brain-washed, and the moment that link was broken during the task force, he flips out and goes back to being evil.
[/ QUOTE ]
That's a good point, of course, we are assuming that this works for Psychics who's other personality is almost phyical. But Psyche isn't the best person as she has freely admited (okay, that's paraphrased from Hickman's arc) and took over the body of another women to keep on fighting crime. Granted Aurora was honored to hold her, but it also pretty much ruined her mariage for two years. Malaise was greatful to have his evil side surpressed, even if it meant a cnstant link.
Assumption, Sister Psyche is acctualy Mother Mayhem or is only a few steps away from being her.
[/ QUOTE ]
One of his personalities was greatful, I'm sure, but the other one was pissed off at being supressed, and now that it's dominant again we should all expect him to retaliate, somethin' fierce.
And it's been a while since I fought Mother Mayhem, but is she still Aurora, or have they replaced her with an evil Sister Psyche?
[/ QUOTE ]
Still Aurora, or as she's called on Preatorian Earth, Nothern Lights.
As for my agrgument, I think you misunderstood. I'm saying Psyche isn't a good person trying to do what she can to help people while being an amazingly powerful Psychic. I think it supports the theory that there are some definate problems within the Phalanx. She has power enough to help Malaise, she decided to use them and did what she thought was right, which in this case senerio probably wasn't the right thing to do.
[/ QUOTE ]
What argument? Misunderstanding? I said she abused her powers by mind-leashing Malaise, like Zatanna lobotomizing Dr. Light and the Society in the Justice League. And there definitely are problems with the Freedom Phalanx, if they're really anything like the heroes Waid and Hickman wrote about. She may have thought it was the only solution, but it was a bad one. It's become a theme in comics these days, and it reflects a dark aspect of our fake comic book world here in Paragon.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Someone's gotta' break Reichsman out of his cell, and he most likely had access to a lot of important numbers as a Freedom Phalanx member.
[/ QUOTE ]
That makes me wonder, Lord Recluse hates Statesman, would that hate expand to alternate versions of Statesman? Would Lord Recluse see an evil Statesman (Like Reichsman or Tyrant) as a threat or ally? I mean, in a one-on-one fight, Recluse is a half-notch below Statesman (Comic book fight based), and I doubt Tyrant or Reichsman would share the world with Recluse.
Always makes me wonder how Lord Recluse would view his heroic double from the Preatorian's world, and what his name would be (Lord Auger maybe? and I used Thesaurus.com to come up with that :P )
[/ QUOTE ]
Tyrant wouldn't abide sharing power with Recluse, as he was constantly at odd with both Neuron and Anti-Matter on his Earth, so on Primal Earth I doubt he and Recluse could work together. As for Reichsman, we don't know anything about him. He's a super powered Nazi version of Statesman, who may or may not have gotten his powers from the well, and may or may not have a Lord Recluse on his Earth. He led the Amerika Korps through Portal Court, and was apparently the only super being in his nation (meaning there weren't any Nazi versions of Miss Liberty or Synapse or anyone on his world that came with him), so he might be territorial as well, meaning he might not work with Recluse. However, he's alone in this world with no real way back home on his own, so allies wouldn't hurt.
[/ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
I think Recluse's view on Statesman's praetorian version arn't too positive. He would won't all the power, and in the end he would want to deal the final blow to States. Recluse is a mastermind. Not in the AT sense, but in the ways he works. He uses GW, BS, Mako, and SC to to lead his minions. IF he were to use Malaise, he would probably use him as a mental puppet.
He would let him get back into Paragon, and make Sister think he is on the up and up, and then use him to do something like destroy the war walls.
[ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
[/ QUOTE ]
Like I said, on his world he may have been the only super powered being left, so he wouldn't be opposed by anyone who could possibly be his equal or better. What good would sending humans to a planet filled with heroes do? Other than that, he personally tortured information out of Webb to decide his course in attacking Primal Earth. It's possible no one on his home world knows how to get to our world, making it harder for him to get back to his.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
[/ QUOTE ]
Like I said, on his world he may have been the only super powered being left, so he wouldn't be opposed by anyone who could possibly be his equal or better. What good would sending humans to a planet filled with heroes do? Other than that, he personally tortured information out of Webb to decide his course in attacking Primal Earth. It's possible no one on his home world knows how to get to our world, making it harder for him to get back to his.
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm going with the numberous times the 5th Colum contacted them looking for troops might have tipped them off by now. While it says he was the only superpowered being, I doubt that. I personaly believe Requiem was pulling his strings. I mean, what kind of leader charges into unknown territory to fight and take over. It seems more like a job you allocate to an army of soldiers and you go in after you have a secure foothold.
So I think someone in Axis Amerika is looking for his lost weapon.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
[/ QUOTE ]
Like I said, on his world he may have been the only super powered being left, so he wouldn't be opposed by anyone who could possibly be his equal or better. What good would sending humans to a planet filled with heroes do? Other than that, he personally tortured information out of Webb to decide his course in attacking Primal Earth. It's possible no one on his home world knows how to get to our world, making it harder for him to get back to his.
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm going with the numberous times the 5th Colum contacted them looking for troops might have tipped them off by now. While it says he was the only superpowered being, I doubt that. I personaly believe Requiem was pulling his strings. I mean, what kind of leader charges into unknown territory to fight and take over. It seems more like a job you allocate to an army of soldiers and you go in after you have a secure foothold.
So I think someone in Axis Amerika is looking for his lost weapon.
[/ QUOTE ]
The 5th Column contacted them, not the other way around. As much as they need troops, I don't think Requiem would've allowed a constant link between the two worlds, probably because he feared another version of himself or another version of a higher ranking Nazi coming over into his territory and taking over. They were, most likely, simple troop retrieval efforts.
As for Reichsman being the only being on his Earth with powers, if he truly gained his powers the way Statesman did, then I wouldn't doubt it if he killed off anyone more powerful than himself, including any versions of our 5th Column, like Requiem. To remain unchecked, he would have had to remove any threat to his position of power.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
[/ QUOTE ]
Like I said, on his world he may have been the only super powered being left, so he wouldn't be opposed by anyone who could possibly be his equal or better. What good would sending humans to a planet filled with heroes do? Other than that, he personally tortured information out of Webb to decide his course in attacking Primal Earth. It's possible no one on his home world knows how to get to our world, making it harder for him to get back to his.
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm going with the numberous times the 5th Colum contacted them looking for troops might have tipped them off by now. While it says he was the only superpowered being, I doubt that. I personaly believe Requiem was pulling his strings. I mean, what kind of leader charges into unknown territory to fight and take over. It seems more like a job you allocate to an army of soldiers and you go in after you have a secure foothold.
So I think someone in Axis Amerika is looking for his lost weapon.
[/ QUOTE ]
The 5th Column contacted them, not the other way around. As much as they need troops, I don't think Requiem would've allowed a constant link between the two worlds, probably because he feared another version of himself or another version of a higher ranking Nazi coming over into his territory and taking over. They were, most likely, simple troop retrieval efforts.
As for Reichsman being the only being on his Earth with powers, if he truly gained his powers the way Statesman did, then I wouldn't doubt it if he killed off anyone more powerful than himself, including any versions of our 5th Column, like Requiem. To remain unchecked, he would have had to remove any threat to his position of power.
[/ QUOTE ]
Good points. But based on the first dimensional arc where it's revealed they can pin point dimesional corrdinates and more accurately with more contacts, anyone power hunger is going to be looking.
And I'm not saying in it's Requiem, but we've seen how Tyrant rules. I'm betting that Reichsman reports to someone. He doesn't so much appear to be a ruler as a military enforcer. Sorta like our Statesman, just working for a different goverment.
As one of the ones giving you a hard time with the Carnies article, I have to say: Much better! I really liked how you exposed some of the story you don't get in the game. The newspaper clipping was a really nice touch as well. Great work, I really enjoyed it.
And, Happy Birthday! 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
[/ QUOTE ]
Like I said, on his world he may have been the only super powered being left, so he wouldn't be opposed by anyone who could possibly be his equal or better. What good would sending humans to a planet filled with heroes do? Other than that, he personally tortured information out of Webb to decide his course in attacking Primal Earth. It's possible no one on his home world knows how to get to our world, making it harder for him to get back to his.
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm going with the numberous times the 5th Colum contacted them looking for troops might have tipped them off by now. While it says he was the only superpowered being, I doubt that. I personaly believe Requiem was pulling his strings. I mean, what kind of leader charges into unknown territory to fight and take over. It seems more like a job you allocate to an army of soldiers and you go in after you have a secure foothold.
So I think someone in Axis Amerika is looking for his lost weapon.
[/ QUOTE ]
The 5th Column contacted them, not the other way around. As much as they need troops, I don't think Requiem would've allowed a constant link between the two worlds, probably because he feared another version of himself or another version of a higher ranking Nazi coming over into his territory and taking over. They were, most likely, simple troop retrieval efforts.
As for Reichsman being the only being on his Earth with powers, if he truly gained his powers the way Statesman did, then I wouldn't doubt it if he killed off anyone more powerful than himself, including any versions of our 5th Column, like Requiem. To remain unchecked, he would have had to remove any threat to his position of power.
[/ QUOTE ]
Good points. But based on the first dimensional arc where it's revealed they can pin point dimesional corrdinates and more accurately with more contacts, anyone power hunger is going to be looking.
And I'm not saying in it's Requiem, but we've seen how Tyrant rules. I'm betting that Reichsman reports to someone. He doesn't so much appear to be a ruler as a military enforcer. Sorta like our Statesman, just working for a different goverment.
[/ QUOTE ]
Going on the idea that the only difference between Primal Earth and Axis Amerika is that Marcus Cole was a Nazi before gaining his powers, presumably the same way, if America lost the war but continued the same course our world did, there would probably be a Sister Psyche, Backalley Brawler, possibly even a Raymond Keyes as an up-and-coming scientist, but no Synapse or Miss Liberty. Maybe a Numina. Anyway, with the course of the world following the same basic series of events as our own, set in a Nazi-controlled America, there should, conceivably, be more super humans. The fact that none followed him through suggests that there aren't. If there were, wouldn't the military want them under their thumb, too? If Reichsman was allowed to kill them, it's because no one has the power to stop him.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Personaly, I'm surpised Axis Amerika hasn't sent anyone through looking for him.
[/ QUOTE ]
Like I said, on his world he may have been the only super powered being left, so he wouldn't be opposed by anyone who could possibly be his equal or better. What good would sending humans to a planet filled with heroes do? Other than that, he personally tortured information out of Webb to decide his course in attacking Primal Earth. It's possible no one on his home world knows how to get to our world, making it harder for him to get back to his.
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm going with the numberous times the 5th Colum contacted them looking for troops might have tipped them off by now. While it says he was the only superpowered being, I doubt that. I personaly believe Requiem was pulling his strings. I mean, what kind of leader charges into unknown territory to fight and take over. It seems more like a job you allocate to an army of soldiers and you go in after you have a secure foothold.
So I think someone in Axis Amerika is looking for his lost weapon.
[/ QUOTE ]
The 5th Column contacted them, not the other way around. As much as they need troops, I don't think Requiem would've allowed a constant link between the two worlds, probably because he feared another version of himself or another version of a higher ranking Nazi coming over into his territory and taking over. They were, most likely, simple troop retrieval efforts.
As for Reichsman being the only being on his Earth with powers, if he truly gained his powers the way Statesman did, then I wouldn't doubt it if he killed off anyone more powerful than himself, including any versions of our 5th Column, like Requiem. To remain unchecked, he would have had to remove any threat to his position of power.
[/ QUOTE ]
Good points. But based on the first dimensional arc where it's revealed they can pin point dimesional corrdinates and more accurately with more contacts, anyone power hunger is going to be looking.
And I'm not saying in it's Requiem, but we've seen how Tyrant rules. I'm betting that Reichsman reports to someone. He doesn't so much appear to be a ruler as a military enforcer. Sorta like our Statesman, just working for a different goverment.
[/ QUOTE ]
Going on the idea that the only difference between Primal Earth and Axis Amerika is that Marcus Cole was a Nazi before gaining his powers, presumably the same way, if America lost the war but continued the same course our world did, there would probably be a Sister Psyche, Backalley Brawler, possibly even a Raymond Keyes as an up-and-coming scientist, but no Synapse or Miss Liberty. Maybe a Numina. Anyway, with the course of the world following the same basic series of events as our own, set in a Nazi-controlled America, there should, conceivably, be more super humans. The fact that none followed him through suggests that there aren't. If there were, wouldn't the military want them under their thumb, too? If Reichsman was allowed to kill them, it's because no one has the power to stop him.
[/ QUOTE ]
That's sorta what I thought. Reichsman simply killed anyone like that. Back Alley Brawler would never have started his war on drugs with the regulators. Manticore is either an orphan of privlege or doesn't exist depending when his parents were killed there. Psyche might have been afraid to stick her head out with Reichesman walking around. Etc.
Whatever the case, he never struck me as their absolute ruler.
Heh, Happy Birthday AS.
-CT
Adversity
@Chilling Temper - L50 B
Candela - L50 PB
Caustic - L50 C
Crystallizing - L50 T
Crippling - L43 D
Animosity
Caex - L50 B
Psilencer - L37 F
Cooldown - L35 C
Q.Q - L19 S
Actually, it says here that the Amerika Korps were superpowered. [ QUOTE ]
The Reichsman, an alternate version of our world's Statesman, led the Amerika Korps, an elite super powered hero organization that helped preserve Nazi rule over the former United States. Intrigued by these other-worldly interlopers, The Reichsman captured Dr. Webb and his explorers, tortured them to death, and ended up extracting a great deal of data about Webb's home dimension. Data is all well and good, but the Reichsman decided he wanted to see for himself, and so he led Amerika Korps through the portal and back to Paragon City.
[/ QUOTE ]
But he doesn't like them being more powerful them him.
[ QUOTE ]
Fortunately, the rest of the Amerika Korps did not measure up to the Freedom Phalanx (apparently in his world the Reichsman did not take kindly to potential rivals, and thus their training had been somewhat lax.)
[/ QUOTE ]
Heroes: Grey Raven, Sublimina, Blazing Cinders, Teiidae
Villains: Static Wave, Frost-Bound, Shadow Pincer
On Virtue
[ QUOTE ]
Will they change the clue text for the first Clockwork mission, now? It'd be odd if my female spine scrapper still fit the bill as the Clockwork King's assailant.
Also, is anyone else sorta' taken back by the story? Blue Steel outright killed a man, someone he could easily has just disabled and taken into custody. That's dark, even for today's heroes. That, and the fact that Malaise was brain-washed into becoming a hero, sort of darkens the overall feel of the world Paragon's set in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, Malaise was techincaly had two personalities, one evil, one good, and the evil one was dominate. Sister Psyche surpressed the evil side.
As for Blue Steel, yeah, he's kinda evil now. Everyone! Lets go start an angry mob in Kings Row!