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Disappointed that CoH is not on the list of course. But were some choices there that I did agree with, The original Fallout and Bioshock for example. There were some choices that I would have put on the list, like Planescape: Torment for example.
But I'm sure there are a lot of people out there disappointed that their personal faves aren't on this grand list. -
Easy, I'd have a scientific skepticism so powerful it actually alters the superhero reality. With this power I could turn off nearly all other superpowers just by providing a plausible explanation as to why it won't work--no handwaving, no unobtainium, no psychic mumbo jumbo. In the end I'd reign over a world as gray and boring as this one!
Mwahahahaha!
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Quote:The first movie, despite what Kyle Reese says about the future not being set, is in fact an ontological loop where everything that happens only ensures the future Kyle Reese already knew. In other words, John Connor is the source of his own origin and the terminator is the source of its own origin. The first movie is like 12 Monkeys or Heinlein's "--All You Zombies--"From the Terminator Wiki:
In Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles, Cameron told Sarah Connor that Skynet went online April 19th, 2011 and on April 21st, 2011 Judgment Day happened.
It's only with the second movie, and all the rest that followed, did Cameron and Hurd explicitly show us that history can be changed and new futures can be generated. That's where things began to get baroque.
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Quote:But let's also remember that was deep in the middle of Cold War paranoia. The US was mortally afraid the Soviets would beat us to stealth technologies first.the first fully working prototype of the F117 stealth fighter was flying in 1978 or 9, but wasn't first introduced in open warfare, and to the general public, until desert shield. this is around 12 years of hush hush that actually worked, not to mention all the developmental time pre-working prototype.
The world today is very different. Of course there is still secrecy and military engineering research always has huge amounts of money but, I don't think the gap is that large as some in the tin foil hat crowd make it out to be. Tensions have lessened considerably from 1980. -
Quote:I don't know if having plentiful energy will solve all the problems though. Some of the problems you mentioned don't really have anything to do directly with energy. And even if we had plentiful, cheap energy--which despite Hubbert's Peak--we already do really, there is always shortages of something--materials, expertise, time or whatever--there's always a shortage of something.Mad science takes money and energy. Two things that aren't in the highest supply. Solve energy, and money goes away two. Fusion power... that is the key to the super future.
But I do agree that a lot of scientific research depends on funding priorities, which projects get the good press and in the end utter, perverse serendipity. We really know don't which field is going to advance forward the fastest. It's not merely about the money. Unexpected breakthroughs may suddenly push a obscure field forward ten years. Then we dump a ton of money into it hoping for more progress only to find things just as unexpectedly slow to crawl. A good example of this is what happened with high temperature superconductors back in the early 90s. Science and engineering are just like that. If it was easy to predict we'll all have jet packs and hotels on Titan now. -
Quote:While these are very intriguing starts into the process of building our army of cyborg death machines, there are still many, many, many details to work out. I wouldn't worry just yet.When you look at what our scientific ability is capable of doing...
A brain being kept alive and hooked up to a machine body
A human brain being hooked into a computer
Nanites that can increase our strength and allow us to hold our breath for over an hour
Rapid Tissue regeneration
Brain regeneration
Organic microchip processors
Just to name a few.
But never mind the morality, what about us even building anything close to a political or social consensus on this stuff? Remember all the ballyhoo over in vitro fertilization? (Which some still find controversial to this day, apparently.) The stuff you're talking about here, is just going to generate a lot more controversy and that will probably slow things down--and maybe that's a good thing.
Or maybe it isn't. What may happen instead is the research will just move elsewhere in the world where the social consensus is different from ours.
Or it might move into off budget military research, especially if there's some kind of arms race going on. -
Bah! Why welcome them resignedly when you can join them? That's my plan if I live to see this stuff!
Quote:As we contemplate our doom -- or at least the annexation of human creativity -- go read Atomic Robo, the single best comic going today and hope that our new metallic brethren are as benevolent and cool as he is. -
Coolness! Let it happen that way.
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Into the Garden of Forking Paths, Continued
As Found Spider rode into Kings Row he expected things to be quiet--nothing that the Paragon Police and less experienced heroes couldn't handle. On his arrival, as he walked down the ramp from the monorail station, he heard chatter on his police radio that there was battle going on between heroes and a giant crab--a giant crab?! It sounded interesting but he elected to listen to police updates about it as he made his way to PPD Headquarters. He wouldn't get involved unless it sounded like it was getting out of hand.
On his walk over to PPD headquarters he easily dealt with a small crowd of Skull ruffians bullying innocent passersby. He knew their tactics from the few times he dealt with them in the Isles. It was hardly a match.
At Police Headquarters, there was a small crowd of outlandishly dressed heroes down in front of the building, chatting, drinking coffee, asking questions and sharing old stories. The Mathematician's plan was that Found Spider would start his recruiting here. He walked over to a clutch of heroes standing by Blue Steel. Being a newly legal super in chrome body armor of Arachnos design--he's spent months buffing all the insignia off--he felt self-conscious.
"Ummm, Hello? I'm Found Spider and I'm new to the City's ranks of heroes but I was hoping for some help with police scanner work. Any takers or questions?" he asked in a baritone voice with a very mild Spanish accent. The police scanner continued to chatter in his ear giving him updates on the crab fight.
((Is this a little better? My plan is to give Found Spider his own mission to bring others on but if one of you think's it's better to say that the Mathematician's plan requires that he join one of your plots in progress, PM me and we can do that too.)) -
Okey-dokey. I'll continue as such and it's simple matter for me to rewrite my last move to end in King's Row. Consider it done.
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Quote:((Uhm...still curious as to why this is here, and not in it's own dedicated thread, if it's a whole seperate plot?))Quote:((I belive it's a plot tied into the whole thing that's going on, though the only thing that boggles me is why you'd go to Talos when all our characters are converging on Kings...))Quote:((It is part of the plot and Synth is slowly setting the scene for it though I'm not entirely sure why it would be a seperate thread, the Crab boss is merely a means of herding people together))
I was hoping to get started in with just one post but as it grows I find there is more and more "setting up" I have to do.
I will accept whatever verdict you'd all prefer. It's not a problem. I can even return the The Crossing with a more minor player to jump into someone else's plot. -
Chapter One: Into the Garden of Forking Paths, Continued
Quote:This required some footwork.There was one last thing he had to do for his mysterious, threatening benefactors. That was to act as a contact for the superhumans of that city looking for work.
Found Spider arrived in Paragon without incident and found it easy, under the assumed name of his expertly forged passport, to find an apartment and to take a job as a security guard in a shopping mall in Talos. His training served him very well here because many Arachnos military personnel knew the fine points of assuming fake identities in their target countries of operation. There would be some trouble when his visa expired but that by that point he might well be on his way to being a naturalized citizen. Once the money started to come in from his day job, he thought his civilian identity was now pretty well established. Time for his next step.
His apartment was spare aside from the two large cases and some other luggage he brought with him in his escape from the Rogue Isles. He opened the large cases to break out his stolen Arachnos military gear. He'd be steadily accumulating and modifying this gear over the last few years as part of his plan to escape from Recluse's clutches. He stowed his silver, modified Arachnos combat armor into a suit case which he took as he went out to look for an abandoned doorway in an alleyway reasonably far from his apartment to change.
This done, he then took the city elevated tram to Galaxy City.
It was there he planned to register as a legal hero, the offices in City Hall in Atlas were often too crowded and slow for this purpose. Galaxy was a better choice. Regardless, the functionary who did his paperwork for this was bored and a little short of sleep and, as it was, he became a legal hero without too many questions asked.
Great! Now he could finally get that last straw of his old life off his back forever! He pulled out the papers the Mathematician had given him several months ago on that day in Aeon University. He had avoided reading these ever since he left, simply because anything associated with that mysterious, pretend academic creeped the ever living daylights out of him.
And sure enough, as he read them, flutters ran up and down the skin on his back. They detailed a plan by which he'd consult his newly assigned police radio for crimes in progress. He would be looking for one particular incident and he'd gather help to go solve that crime, simple enough. What was deeply unnerving about this was that the plan in the papers was written months ago and yet it detailed his actions almost down to the minute and seemed to anticipate everything that he'd be doing during that day of listening to the police scanner. It appeared that the Mathematician and his silent partner had extremely accurate precognitive abilities or could travel in time itself.
He had to wonder why they were interested in this yet to happen crime in a far away land. It was as suspicious as a group of deeply paranoid ravens from North Korea watching badly edited clips of the Zapruder film on a website devoted to UFO cover-ups.
But there was worse to come. As he read the papers, he saw the last line on the last page change before his eyes.
"Don't ask questions. This line of text shows that we can change your past at any moment. Do as we say."
He dropped the papers as if they had just burst into flame and then hastily scrambled to pick them up before they blew away. Shuddering, he stuffed the papers in his pocket and took the tram to Kings Row to network and recruit. -
Chapter One: Into the Garden of Forking Paths, Continued
Quote:Valley Witch, who only feigned the vapidity of her namesake as a means of misdirecting opponents, was irritated with the patronizing tone of the nameless mathematician but she hid it well, like all good receptionists.Quark Zombie, for that's who it was, dumped a small stack of papers and a bound stack of money onto reception desk.
"I'm the one who will explain things," said the mathematician pulling out a notepad to refresh his memory, "we're here to hire people. This might seem like a repetition of your recent past but I can emphatically state, it most assuredly isn't, not this time."
"And these papers and money are to terminate the lease?" she asked.
"Yes, and a few minor changes to the contact information of the--" the mathematician grimaced at the name of the gang, "the melodramatically named Fallen Ones. We still wish to use the Scarlet Society's headhunting resources for recruitment."
She signed a few of the forms and locked the money in the petty cash drawer, "Fine. That's cool. Now, was there anything else?"
"If you would please post this on your secure site," he passed over a hand bill, "We'll do the same on that bulletin board over there. That should get us started. Thanks."
Quark Zombie and the mathematician walked over the the bulletin board in the lobby nearby Ruby's and the elevators. And posted the following:
Quote:"Why such strong restrictions on time travel? Why do we have busybodies regulating metacosmic travel?
"Surely anyone familiar with the physics involved would realize that most of these restrictions are completely pointless. So why do we allow self-appointed authorities, whom no one elected and whom answer to no accountable body, restrict our movements?
"Do you have it in for the Menders? Do you find the Portal Corporation, neither? And who does this DJ Zero person think he is anyway?! Or are you just looking for a great deal of traceless cash for a few hours of extremely dangerous and violent but exciting work?
"Exchange public PGP keys with the e-mail address below and we'll talk about a few interesting opportunities."
The meeting would be with an accomplice, a former soldier, now absent without leave and guilty of many other infractions, in Recluse's army. He desperately wanted a chance to flee to Paragon City. This was an opportunity the mathematician brought to Quark Zombie's attention. Quark Zombie, being an unfathomably alien creature who steered the radioactive corpse of a former physicist five years dead from outside space-time itself, was not really good at manipulating people. For that, it now relied on its thrall, the mathematician.
They popped back into space-time in the courtyard of Aeon University on the island of Cap Au Diable. Quark Zombie, who often went about shoeless, gloveless and maskless to use its power, donned its full suit so as to not kill bystanders with hard, ionizing radiation. This not because Quark Zombie had interest in sparing life it was merely a matter of not drawing undue attention to itself. The mathematician was able to withstand closeness with the alien monster who was his master due to powerful chelation drugs and periodic treatments with cell repair machines.
They entered the main library of the university.
There he was, in a study alcove amid all the books and terminals, the Found Spider, former trooper of Arachnos and now on the lam from Recluse's law. Obviously he was in disguise, posing as one of the students at the university. He was of average height and muscular in build, a dark skinned Latino with a strong hint of Mayan in his features. He wasn't especially striking, not at all the supposed product of mild gene tweaking that he was. It was a face you wouldn't remember well--which might have been the point.
Quark Zombie handed the mathematician the passport and plane tickets and walked back out of the building to wait, staring directly at the Sun. The mathematician pulled up a chair and sat next to the man.
"On May 11th, 2006, a Thursday, you completed basic and were assigned to your first unit. One of your first assignments in the field was at the so called Victory of Recluse. You were all sent in with flamethrowers to pacify the civilians in what was euphemistically called 'house warming ceremonies.' But you couldn't do it. Instead, you chose to spend your fuel on uninhabited buildings. You only shot at those who shot back at you. Your CO never found out."
The mathematician recited this all in a calm, quiet voice, as if he were reading off a weather forecast. Found Spider stirred once but didn't turn to face the mathematician.
"We saw you there, I and my master. It probably means nothing to you, but know for an incontrovertible fact that there were, and are, an infinite number of you that did follow your orders that day. That there were an infinite number that did exactly as you have done means nothing. You think this matters. It does not."
The mathematician plunked down the passport, tickets and other papers on Found Spider's desk.
"Here is your reward for what you did for us at the reservoir, in Faultline. Escape. Flee to your precious city, to freedom. But know this, we see your entire world line. We see the world lines of all the persons who contributed to your germ plasm. We can snuff those lines out at any point, intervene in them at any point. Go, spread our message."
The mathematician walked out of the library to join Quark Zombie. Soon they were swallowed into hyperspace.
Found Spider quietly took the papers and stuffed them into his bag. He finished the next two chapters in the book he was pretending to read, The Man in the Iron Mask. He'd already read it dozens of times before. He then walked out of the library to take a cab to the air field over in Haven.
Customs didn't even bat an eye at his travel papers or his bags and soon, he stepped off a small prop job that flew him directly to Atlanta, Georgia in the United States. He was free.
There was some worry that the FBI or INS might give him trouble in his new life but these were nothing in comparison to Recluse's secret police. From Atlanta, he had enough money to make his way to Paragon City, Rhodes Island by train.
There was one last thing he had to do for his mysterious, threatening benefactors. That was to act as a contact for the superhumans of that city looking for work.
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((Continued in the next post where I'll set up things for hero-types to join in this crazy scheme. If any villains find any interest in Quark Zombie's help wanted ad above, please send me a PM and we'll get you started.)) -
Okay so I posted my opening shot in the Crossing thread. It may sound like I'm just reviving the Chateau Rogue thread but I'm not and won't remain there for long as things develop. It's more appropriate for me to be in this thread I think.
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Chapter One: Into the Garden of Forking Paths
"People, even people who should know better, misuse the word 'dimension' all the time," said the mathematician, talking to himself, "They think they know what a universe is. But then I hear them say, 'plane of existence' or 'realm of the gods' they betray their naivety, their lack of training and rigor."
He was alone, which was unremarkable, but where he was alone was interesting. He was in a small stone room barely more than 3 meters square. The room had a doorless exit out onto stone corridor and there was a narrow hole in the opposite wall that could be called a window if it actually had a pane of glass in it, which it didn't. The window was narrow but big enough that someone could squeeze their way through it with some effort. There was even, white light shining from the window, like the light from a rainy day. The man sat in the room on a stone bench and opposite him the stone wall was covered with formulas, equations and diagrams. He scrawled those there a few hours ago with pieces of chalk that he always kept with him. It was easier than keeping track of paper and notebooks which were hard to obtain anyway given his current, voluntary thralldom.
A mild claustrophobia swept over his thoughts and he chuckled a bit when he considered where he actually was. He stuck his head out the window anyway for some air and reassurance.
What he saw was both ordinary and physically impossible. His head was hanging out over vast plane or wall of stone. It was so vast that the horizon in all directions took up half his view and there was no clear edge to the horizon as there would be in ordinary circumstances. The horizon just blended into the sky with no clear transition. That meant that the wall he was looking on was very large or perhaps even infinite in size. He didn't really know. He saw that the wall was equally spaced with windows just like his that repeated endlessly in all directions. He knew that these were other windows because he had wandered a bit in the corridors and found other rooms just like this one and some larger. He slept in one of the larger rooms further down the corridor.
It was a bit like being in a cosmically huge castle or skyscraper--perhaps even infinitely big. Considering his master, he was pretty sure it might be infinite.
He looked directly away from wall, out from the wall, to look at the sky. It was blue sky with widely scattered clouds but there was never any sun or other objects in the sky aside from clouds. Night never fell. Due to the orientation of the clouds, they bumped into the wall all the time, just as low clouds and mist bang into skyscrapers in big cities. This made the wall constantly slick with moisture but there never seemed to be any rain or storms, just the constant misting.
Now vertigo settled over him and he pulled his head in.
"I should bring a telescope here," he mumbled pulling out a notebook to write a reminder to himself, "If I'm lucky enough to find one in our next trip."
He heard footsteps and knew at once who it was. And sure enough, a familiar, black suited figure, covered with yellow radiation hazard trefoils, walked into his room. The figure was wearing a bulky, thick hazmat suit with no breathing or air filtration apparatus. Over its eyes was a thick brass plate with cruciform holes. A flicker of green light sparked within those dark holes and green laser light played over the man and the entire room. The figure drew paper index cards from its tool belt and started burning text into them with yellowish green laser light. The cards smoldered briefly and then extinguished as the figure passed the cards to the man to read.
The mathematician was long experienced with this method of communication and understood the cards well enough. His long abandoned family, friends and associates would have said that his understanding had in fact rendered the poor mathematician insane, but, by his current thinking, they were less than nothing now. They weren't special, they weren't even unique.
"So, you've got it all tidied up? Time to go?" The mathematician asked only to chuckle at the utter absurdity of the question.
The figure didn't answer, or rather it answered by sweeping both of them into the mouth of a small wormhole which lead into a small hypersphere of space-time sitting a five dimensional realm. In less than a yoctosecend the hypersphere was swept into hyper-hypersphere of five-space, which in turn, a yoctosecond later, was swept into a hyper-hyper-hypersphere of six-space and then this was swept into yet higher dimensional chunk and so on, millions of times, like some kind of dimensional matryoshka doll.
After multiple nestings, having finally arrived at a continuum with suitable physics for traveling at brain insulting speeds, the dimensional matryoshka then moved over distances that would make humans weep in utter shame at their presumption of trying to ken them.
Arriving at the right position in the right universe was not something to be taken trivially. As most scientists at the the governmental consortium of the Portal Corporation would say, the number of universes is not actually finite. News in the popular media, to be accessible to a general audience, presented a description of the multiverse that was much simpler than the truth. The truth was that the numbers of universes was infinite and eternal. This meant that an obscure aspect of thermodynamics called "Poincaré's Recurrence" and quantum mechanical restrictions on analog variation would ensure that all phase spaces for any finite number of particles would repeat--repeat infinitely many times for all eternity. Not only did many variations of Statesman exist, Statesman himself and all that he knew was repeated infinitely, forever.
This was something the mathematician knew as the dimensional matryoshka unnested itself in less than a nanosecond, in the right place, spitting the mathematician and the black suited figure onto the Rue Gimbal in St. Martial. They were at the street address of the Chateau Rouge in the Rogue Island archipelago.
Or, to be more precise, they were at one Chateau Rouge out of an infinitude.
It was about 15 o'clock local time as the pair walked into the Chateau's lobby and up to the receptionist, Valley Witch, who was blissfully unaware of her utter commonness and eternal ubiquity in the grand scheme.
Valley Witch goggled, pointing at the black suited one, "Oh Em Gee! Hey, like, I know you! You're, you're that freaky zombie chick, right? What's it, ummmm, the Protonic Vampyre! No! That's not it! Quark Zombie! Quark Zombie? Right? Who's your friend?"
Quark Zombie, for that's who it was, dumped a small stack of papers and a bound stack of money onto reception desk.
"I'm the one who will explain things," said the mathematician pulling out a notepad to refresh his memory, "we're here to hire people. This might seem like a repetition of your recent past but I can emphatically state, it most assuredly isn't, not this time."
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Quote:The Ultimate Nullifier is a silver age Marvel reference. Reed Richards used it to scare off Galactus.((I have no idea what an Ultimate Nullifier is, but considering the CoXverse is full of Ultimate Somethingorothers, all of which tend to have some sort of Ultimate Unsomethingorother, I don't think it'll 'mess up' anything. If you'd still like to discuss it beforehand, I'd like to think that my Like a Ton of Bricks OOC thread is still viable, but of course I can't be 100% sure.
But never mind, taking your suggestion, I'm now officially naming this the "The Crossing OOC" thread. I just got a PM from Mechano about my idea. But I'll give a brief review here (And this will probably mean more to Devious and other Chateau Rogue thread alumni.):
- Quark Zombie is not dead. (Probably not too surprising given the nature of the radioactive puppet.)
- It's been two years since its supposed death.
- Everything that happened in the Chateau thread is canon as far I'm concerned and I'm working in that universe--sort of.
- Quark Zombie is now looking for something, something that may change the entire multiverse forever.
- Note that I said change, not destroy. Although after this change is made, maybe some might wish it had been destroyed.
- This thing is called the M Catalyst and is so obscure and well hidden even the Menders got it wrong in their first attempts to identify it.
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((So after reading this thread yesterday after work I had, for me at any rate, a clever moment where a plot snapped together in my mind. It involves one of my villains that I introduced way back in the Chateau Rouge thread. On the face of it, it's rather simple: a game of keep away involving something a lot like the Ultimate Nullifier.
If it's cool, I'd like to stir this into the mix here. But I don't want to mess up everything that's cooking here. Where should I hash this out with everyone to make sure my plot doesn't mess up anyone else's?)) -
I would love to see well-researched African legends and mythology brought into the game.
But barring that, the stories and myths of India, Southeast Asia and Mayan stuff would be cool too.
Hmm, maybe I should design a few story arcs in AE? Hmm, hmm, hmm. -
I'm not tired of Praetoria. If anything I now see the whole rest of the game through the lens of Praetorian Earth. Maybe that's because I wasn't there for the launch of CoH and CoV but I was there for the launch of Praetoria.
But, to be far, I'm a biased casual who hasn't played all the task forces, raids and missions in the game umpteen times over yet. There is still a lot of material I really haven't mined out of the background yet. -
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Ornithopter: for a sort of winged iron man knock off.
Effulgence: for a peacebringer.
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Quote:Holy ned! You're tellin' me! The magic system in that game is completely and unabashedly unbalanced. I wonder why any player bothers to be any of the other classes, if one easily won initiative roll and cloud of slumber pretty much ends any combat in a low level wizard's favor.I usually develop my backgrounds as system-agnostic. I also used to switch up systems regularly just to try something different.
Palladium is still very, very bad.
Palladium has serveral interesting backgrounds and the combat system, simple as it is, is quick to pick up but the magic rules completely suck even if they have some interesting character classes in them.
I had a friend who tried porting some of the cool character ideas (Namely diabolists and summoners.) from that game into Champions with an eye towards restoring game balance.
I heard later editions of Palladium tried, vaguely, to redress that huge flaw but not by much. -
Quote:Loud vigorous agreement from someone who actually lives in Jet City.I'm not saying you should let crime go. I'm saying that, if you want to go looking for crime to give yourself an excuse to be a hero, bust heads or whatever, maybe you should consider trying to join your local police force and get some real training and the ability to call in for backup.
I have no problem with citizen's arrest. If you see something bad happening, yes, try to do what you can to stop it. But wearing a flashy outfit seems counterproductive to that.
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Quote:Eye twitching and wincing ensues. Ewww!Yes, it was the lateral acceleration that did it. Unbreakable hyper-carbon tether was only about 50 meters long. I forget the numbers, but I think it calculated out to some hundreds of Gs of centripetal acceleration.
I prefer crunchy. To me the worth of a rules system is how flexible and extensible it is to model something--yep, I'm GURPS or Hero geek.
I wonder how many of you out there take a decent background burdened with a bad rules system and attempt to port it over to a decent rules system? Time consuming I know. -
Oh yeah, I read about that slightly over a month ago. Is this planet amazing or what?!