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Yeah, same thing. Any time salvage is selling for under 250 (white) or 1000 (yellow), that means that a TON of it is not being put on the market at all. (If the market were TRULY rational, I think the numbers would be at least 275/1100, but really, that's a bit much to ask of people, no?)

Only in fact, I did expect it, because that is how economies work.

If you want to keep something low-level and common stable, level a toon to ten or so, and just keep up bids at 100 and sales at 10000 in as many stacks as you can, and you will probably find that you are massively stabilizing it, because 10k is high enough that it probably discourages people from buying to flip, but low enough that the insanely high prices will never sell while you have anything less... and 100 is low enough to be an effective lower bound, but looks at least like the same number of digits as you'd get by going to the vendor. Poof! Instant market stabilization.

I had just noticed that! I'd describe my response as weeping and tearful, but I'm not sure the terms are quite strong enough. I felt unloved, unwanted, excluded, and also mildly confused. I do not think it exaggeration to say that I feel this new policy is probably actionable as a menace to public health.

Not Twilight's Grasp. My dark/dark defender regularly successfully pulls heals from people who fall down obviously-dead partway through the animation, my fire/kin troller regularly fails to get healing from people that I was pretty sure were still alive. The check-for-still-alive seems to happen at very different times for those two powers.

I can't either. Which makes me wonder why they have the "third-party" qualifier, since it's presumably irrelevant.

Actually, I suppose the issue is this:

By definition, the instant you create a character, you have created a creative work, and if you save a copy of the costume, you have fixed that work to a tangible medium, wherupon it is now a copyrighted thing, by definition, because it's a creative work that has been fixed in tangible form. So if they didn't have that qualifier, they would have a policy which bans any character from being played if that character has been created. Obviously, that would be a problematic policy.

They're a pretty good example of how "marketeers" can increase the supply of an item despite not themselves being the ones farming the item.

Actually, I think you're missing a key point.

I vendor and delete recipes if there's no bids on offer. If marketeers were bidding on those items, I'd sell them, listing them at 1 inf because it's less work than trying to guess at a reasonable price. Then someone would craft the items.

So while they may not GENERATE items, they cause items to go into the economy rather than getting vendored out. And that, furthermore, means more items being sold and exchanged (taking inf out of the game, and reducing prices) rather than more items being vendored (adding info to the game, and increasing prices).

Furthermore, many of the marketeers also play the game regularly -- in fact, all the ones I've talked to. If you look at Fury's zero to a billion thread, you know what she did first? Farm a bunch of stuff up to sell. You know what I do every day? I log in to a bunch of people, check my WW/BM, then I go run missions until my recipes and salvage are full, sell a bunch of stuff, and repeat that another two or three times... then go do all my crafting as the last thing of the night.

Flippers do indeed cause more things to go on the marketplace. As people pointed out, when you gave the example of Siphon Insight: It's not usually worth it to put something up on WW if there are zero bidders. It's only when there are bidders that people bother. So if we had more people scanning WW, leaving bids up on a bunch of recipes just because no one else was bidding and they hoped to get lucky, that'd be hundreds or thousands of recipes being put up and bought. And then, crafted, and turned into enhancements, increasing the supply of enhancements.

I think the general pattern I'm seeing is that you're disregarding indirect effects. Buffalo were endangered for a long time. Finally, some crazy guy came up with the idea of allowing marketeers to get involved -- people who would do nothing but buy buffalo, cut it into delicious steaks, and sell it to people. Marketeers announced intent to do this. BAM. Supply appeared. No one was going to raise buffalo just because they were cool looking, but as soon as you say "we have a restaurant who will buy all the buffalo you can raise", people said "I'm going to raise buffalo". There are now a ton of them, and more all the time, because the marketeers, while they didn't create buffalo, created a way for someone who can raise buffalo to get hooked up with people who want to eat burgers which are both flavorful and lean.

Marketeers who focus on crafting are creating a way for people who have recipes left over from farming, but don't want to deal with finding salvage, to get hooked up with people who want enhancements, but don't want to go worrying about salvage and recipes. Everyone wins.

The "worldwide non-exclusive license" completely covers that; there is no particular reason for which it makes anything better or easier for anyone to have the "ownership" language even in there.

As to the question of whether they care whether you own it:

If they really don't care whether you own it or not, why do they have the qualifier "third-party" in every single reference to copyrights or trademarks? If they didn't have that qualifier, that'd be clear and obvious. With the qualifier there, I can find no example of any policy banning me from using even an extremely well-known and trademarked name if I am the trademark holder. So why is the qualifier there, if as people are telling me, they don't mean it?

Yes, we do.

The way you get more stuff on the market is you encourage marketeers.

Think about it. I've just made maybe 10M inf crafting lowish-level common enhancements (recharge reduction, end reduction, damage) redside. Buy masterwork weapons, iron, and the pattern for a level 30 damage IO for maybe 15k total, sell the IO for 500k.

Every time I do this:

* The price of damage IOs drops (because supply went up)
* The value to sellers of their generic salvage increases (because demand went up)

I'm helping both buyers and sellers, by providing a service.

Except that no one "inflates rates". No one but you even thinks it's possible, and you've never offered an argument or explanation that's remotely consistent with the last couple thousand years of study of economics.

No. If someone comes in making ludicrous and unsupported claims, refuses to justify them, and focuses primarily on name-calling, then people say "wow, what a troll."

Justifiably so, I think.

Ahh! Yes, this is something you need to know about in CoH.

The game contains occasional idiots.

Seriously, that is a really, really, stupid thing for someone to say to basically ANY defender or controller. You just gotta accept that, sometimes, the people you group with don't understand the game.

IMHO, the thing to do at that point is to set your heal on auto, /follow the tank, and read a book. Or, alternatively, get a group which doesn't suck.

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Nope, just normal running around. I think it's just latency, I get the same thing a lot with sniper attacks.