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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules

Hi guys! Just wanted to let you know that I'm still monitoring the thread and will update it tomorrow (well, today I guess. Wow it's late.) Keep it coming.

Originally Posted by Jericho

Hi,
I put this buiild together to just send some thoughts in your direction. It doesn't quite have the recharge yours did, but I tried to do some alternate slotting in some powers to make them more effective.

Also, as you selected Provoke, I thought you might be aiming to tankermind so I aimed for soft cap S/L defenses and managed to make it while still getting decent recharge, not the ultimate recharge you got but hopefully it might give you a few ideas and maybe be more effective?

I kept all the powers you selected except I swaped out Super Jump (I use Ninja Run) and selected the aoe immobilize from the villain pool you selected. It has a lot of uses with your build. I believe it has minus knockback in it, so your tornados can do tons more damage without knocking the enemies away.

I moved your Force Feedback from Hurricane to Gale. I don't remember why but I seem to recall it's better in Gale and doesn't work well in Hurricane. Since your aoe immobilize has minus knockback, you can aim Gale at a bunch of immobilized foes and have a lot of chances to proc Force Feedback to gain Perma Hasten.

I put the chance for build up in the 3 thugs since it gives three times as many chances to proc it, but I believe to bonus still applies to all pets.

Gale and Freezing Rain aren't usually slotted for damage sets as their damage is so low. Freezing Rain is one of your most important powers, and is often slotted with procs as I have done here. It makes it lots of fun!

If this doesn't help, I am sorry but maybe there will be at least one idea that will help you.

RichHi, I posted a reply to your question about Thugs/MM build. It doesn't have as much recharge as yours, but hopefully it might give you a few ideas. I hope it helps a little.

2 things I forgot to mention in the post:

The proc in Absolute Amazement set in Thunderclap is bugged and does Absolutely nothing I am told

Also, if you want some stealth, you can get a stealth IO and put it in Sprint, then turn sprint on when you want to stealth.

take care,
Rich

Originally Posted by Beef_Cake

Well after doing lot of testing here is what I've come up with for my build on my Thugs / Dark


Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.92
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Frankie the Hat: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(3), HO:Nucle(3), S'bndAl-Build%(15), ExStrk-Dam%(15)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(7), Nictus-Acc/Heal(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(33), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 4: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg(5), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(5), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(34), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(34)
Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-ResDam/Re TP(9), SW-Def(37), SW-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 10: Howling Twilight -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(11), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(11), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(25), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(25)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(13), HO:Nucle(13), HO:Cyto(23), HO:Cyto(23), Achilles-ResDeb%(46)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GA-ResDam(17), GA-End/Res(17), GA-Res/Rech/End(50)
Level 18: Gang War -- C'Arms-Acc/Rchg(A), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg(19), C'Arms-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), C'Arms-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(21), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(43), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(45)
Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- Abys-Acc/Rchg(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(21), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(31), Abys-Fear/Rng(31), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(31)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), SW-Def(36), SW-Def/EndRdx(37), SW-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 26: Call Bruiser -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(27), HO:Nucle(27), ExStrk-Dam%(36), SvgnRt-PetResDam(36), EdctM'r-PetDef(46)
Level 28: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(33), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(33)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Tough -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-End/Res(39), GA-Res/Rech/End(39)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- HO:Lyso(A), HO:Lyso(39), HO:Endo(40), Theft-Heal/Rchg(40), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(48)
Level 41: Charged Armor -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-End/Res(42), GA-Res/Rech/End(42)
Level 44: Electrifying Fences -- GravAnch-Immob(A), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(48), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Provoke -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Cardiac Core Boost
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(43)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(43)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 4% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 4% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 4% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 4% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 4% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 4% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 4% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 4% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 10% Defense
• 5.85% Max End
• 72.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 57% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 5% Enhancement(Heal)
• 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
• 78.31 HP (9.752%) HitPoints
• Knockback (Mag -9)
• Knockup (Mag -9)
• 18% (0.301 End/sec) Recovery
• 30% (1.006 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 24.89% Resistance(Smashing)
• 28.04% Resistance(Fire)
• 28.04% Resistance(Cold)
• 24.26% Resistance(Energy)
• 26.76% Resistance(Negative)
• 23% Resistance(Toxic)
• 23% Resistance(Psionic)
• 24.89% Resistance(Lethal)

Originally Posted by Balthazael

Which Enforcer powers trigger the Achilles proc? Is it all of their attacks, or just some?

Originally Posted by Norty_Morty

Soulbound BU is WAY better than the Gaussians.
Gausians is basically a waste. 5% chance? naw.

Even Achilles is better. -res for more damage for ALL your pets.

This isn't on the boards anywhere, just from personal conversations with a friend that does a LOT of Masterminding.

-Morty

Originally Posted by Scrappy_NA

There is a new Warrior/BM farm where you get States as an ally. It's given by Maria. Not bad if States knocking everything all over the place doesn't infuriate you.

Originally Posted by Electric-Knight

You know, them expressing themselves like that lacked tact, for sure, but it's not really that big of a deal.
If you go around ignoring every player that might occasionally say something a bit stupid or rude, you might get a bit lonely.
More so... Everyone has a bad moment.
Try not to judge someone entirely based on a few seconds (even if they sort of did that themselves).

Seriously... beyond just this one silly little interaction, it's a good idea to not just assume someone who makes one poor decision is an utter jerk who you should never deal with again.

Sure, it sounds like an immature, vent-it-out freely, annoying sort of person... (I've met quite a few of those).
Maybe they'd had a string of rotten luck all day (all life maybe, hehe).
Big deal.
Were you that hurt about it?

Maybe they were actually being nice... and just used that as an excuse, rather than say that you smelled (yes, stupid joke... sue me).

My opinion,
While just spitting that out into Team Chat and quitting is not nice and hardly spreads a good feeling unto others, the personal preference is entirely okay.
I have to admit that I've often found Demons annoying.
I've never quit because of them or anything... so I'm not saying that.
However, there is not a thing wrong with someone following that personal rule if that is how they feel about it and/or what it takes to keep it fun for themselves.
The comment, though... is lame. I find explaining yourself goes a long way.

"((Ugg... I've had a raging headache all day and I really can't handle a Demon Master Mind. I'm sorry... not anyone's fault. I'm going to bail. No hard feelings. I hope you all have a great run and a fun time))"

Of course, some call me wordy.
I like to think of it as being communicative.

Blah blah blah...


And, actually... looking at the quote again, he did say sorry.
Sometimes things are all about the context you read into the text.
With the lack of wordiness most people tend to have in games, I'd even back off of my own comments about just how bad of a comment it was from the Defender.
Despite my dedication to doing such deeds, I deem that this Defender doesn't demand my defense.

Originally Posted by ultrawatt

Yes its a set mule, (he is using a version of something i gave him) FS, burn, fences, and ball gives you a full AoE chain.


Yes, get spirit core paragon more rech is good. If you have trouble with end use a blue every now and then. On my build, i dont use consume or blues and my end is fine. But i have 5 purple sets in it.

Originally Posted by Beef_Cake

Ok, after transfering over to the Test server, I found that the Chance for Build Up only works on the activation of the Enforcers. It doesn't help the Enforcers at all.


Shame

Originally Posted by nalrok_athzim

emit a non-newtonian liquid that forms bubbles and hardens significantly on impact

Originally Posted by Beef_Cake

Simple questiuon,will the Gaussian's Chance for BU work for my Thug Enforcers when they are attacking or will it work for me actually casting the pets?

I'm thining it will only work when I cast the pets since the set if not designed for pets.

Has anyone tested or can confirm whether or not it works?


Thanks

Originally Posted by Shisui

i like 45-50 silver, just because i find those are recipes that i often want myself. and put them aside for another toon, or another build. also 35-39 silver. nobody wants to buy kinetic combats. so my inf number isnt very good, but i spose it saves me a lot of inf.

Originally Posted by mhmtrm

i usually farm crey's fire cyborgs with +0x8 no boss settings. ticket cap in around 2 mins 20 seconds.

Originally Posted by Lobster

In all this, have we had a standardized speed test yet? I think I followed the whole thread and don't recall one.

Ie, pick a map and everyone runs their farmers on it for 2-3 runs, then post herostats tix/min & inf/min as well as individual run times?

I've seen people mention 90 second 1500 tix times, and I'm really curious about that. Dropping from my usual x3/8 to -1/8 only cut my time down 1-2 minutes or so (still well over 90s)... although I did forget to turn bosses off. Need to re-time with them off...

If people are wary of posting their pet arcs, we can get a list of people volunteering to get #s, and then PM them an arc. I'm sure someone with more editor knowledge than I could probably whip up a temp arc just for the occasion...

Originally Posted by ultrawatt

Ah, i may have not been clear the macro's for combing are put into attacks and the macro for using them is separate, attaching that to an attack is not recommended. Also, say you have 6 small purples and 3 small blues, one click will combine all of these into reds. So there is no need to spam your attacks at all, as you go about your attack chain they simply get combined.

Stragglers, other than a large mob of them, are not to be attacked. This is a waste of time are you should hopefully be at or near the ticket cap before it’s an issue.

You still combine insp using the forward button, which can un-center you and cause burn (at to a lesser extent FS) to not be at the target cap unless you only press it when you are rooted. But if that’s what you want, ok.

And you still haven’t addressed that you don't want to combine insp outside of AE, unbinding every time you go use your alt build and rebinding when you change back is just a *****.

Originally Posted by Shisui

i cant imagine running anything but cardiac. anytime you slot a set of oblit, you know its gonna hurt the blue.