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I am disappointed people keep telling me that I should only play there MA arcs because they spent so much time making up a story.

I have not read one scrap of the stories there is no draw for me there sorry if I want a story I will go read a book. I mean I have read hundreds of books and if I want a good story I freakin go read a book. When I log on to the game I want to beat up on stuff get my new shinny and move on that is fun to me.

Sorry your idea of a good arc does not even come into my realm of what I would rate as fun.

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qft, most players just want to punch things in the face. If they wan't massive depth it is available in far better places.

but punchasizing things in the face? this is a pretty good place for that.

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Umm..i have the fire shield+Plasma shield+Temp Protection+Tough...i can't get on to check the exact numbers..but i do think it was around 70% fire res.

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Oh sh*t I just checked the toon. lol I stripped it quite some time ago. Enhances would probably help

doh.

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bare in mind that Silverado comes from a school of though that if you can't tackle all AV's you aren't an AV solo'er.

Basically if you have to pick and choose, you don't cut the mustard. Which is why you'll see him advocate debuff sets because they fit the bill.

His view isn't shared by everyone, but I would agree that if you are building a toon specifically for AV solo'ing he is generally right. If you are just looking to tag a few AV's (sort of for the sake of curiosity) which to me seems what this thread is about then... ya.

IMO (and I've solo'd quite a few AV's now) I look at whether the build can comfortably get the job done on paper. If it can it is reasonable to assume it can happen in game. The only time hard evidence is required for more than entertainment purposes is when the paper says it will be close/not possible and someone is saying they did it.

Are you sure it was after DR was applied? Or did they lessen the dr curves since the first few months after i13?

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I've read all the posts now and I still don't see the issue.

I see why PS had an issue with it, clearly and understandably.

I see why some people with a sense of entitlement have an issue.

But I still don't see a valid consumer complaint. Well nothing that goes beyond complaining about viagra spam emails

carry on though.

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As far as fight club many consider fire/regen to be the most dangerous all-around scrapper. Amazingly I have seen fire melee cut through things with capped fire resist...like my scrapper/brute.

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That's because, thanks to DR, your Fire resistance is not even close to capped in PvP.

As far as this topic goes: Fire/Spines/MA/BS will all do decently in zones paired with Regen.

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With DR if you go with tough you will be at about 75% fire res.

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My fire tank w/ tough is at about 43% fire res iirc (haven't logged it in months), so I doubt a scrapper would be higher.

Do you mean in the arena with DR off?

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Come on people give credit where its due. I do not believe farms should be banned but rate them what they should be. A map full of nothing but minion only, Lt only or Boss only mobs with absolutely no story should not get a 4 star rating.


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If it is a good farm it deserves a good rating...

In fact a farm w/ story deserves a lower rating lol as it can cut down on the efficiency of farming.

A farm with a whack of easy to kill mobs that have full or even higher than normal xp, toss a helper npc or two in there... Sounds like a 4 star farm to me

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I don't misunderstand at all, you do. They went after INFLUENCIAL people in their exact target market. The people beating down their door are just people, groupies if you will. They want people that have the ability to bring as many people as possible once the game goes live.

Viral marketing.

It can backfire though, if the product sucks those same influencial people can influence a lot of people.

Just so it's clear, you are upset because you were not offered a beta despite wanting one, while someone else was?

If that is the case you are not one of the people I'm talking about. People get upset all the time when they aren't picked first for dodgeball.

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You basically just said what I said in a different way, so how am I misunderstanding? We're not talking about me, and nowhere did I mention my status in regards to that game. For all you know, I'm in the beta. That doesn't mean I still can't be disgusted about how they are treating prospective potential subscribers.

Deciding who is influential and who isn't based on... well, whatever the hell they used this game to base it on is ridiculous in itself. Sure you can do it, but that doesn't make it intelligent. Your explanation of it displays that pretty clearly.

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If we are basically saying the same thing and I more or less rephrased my original post then I guess neither of us are misunderstanding. At which point I'll just resort to the low road and say - you started it

Sorry, you said "people like me" I figured people like you are you.
There are 4 possibilities:
-you are a guild leader and were picked
-you are a guild leader and were not picked
-you are a 'nobody' in the lineup waiting to get in the club
-you are a 'somebody' in the lineup waiting to get in the club

I don't care which one you are, but being "distgusted" is very immature. Celebrity (or in this case, being a person of influence in their eyes) brings certain advantages and disadvantages.

If you are still waiting in line to get into the party and you are pissed cause others got bumped ahead of you then I'm sorry.

If you were picked and got offended I'm sorry

If you are a leader and didn't get picked I'm sorry

You sound as petty as the people that cry when they don't get in beta here.


From my understanding they targetted a number of people that were guild leaders, or otherwise have meaningful influence over a fair number of people. They are not omnipotent and missed some good candidates and probably picked some bad ones. I wouldn't call that ridiculous. I would call it intelligent, though we obviously differ on what we feel constitutes intelligence.

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So, you're resorting to insulting me now? Telling me I sound petty and I'm immature? It's funny you can't see how ironic that is.

It's not a party, it's a beta test. You seem to be mistaken on the issues, so until you can post proving you understand the difference between a party and a beta test, your entire argument is worthless and fail.

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Muniklord nailed it better than I can. I'm sorry if I have upset you and I'm sorry if CO has upset you. I'm sure neither of us set out with that goal in mind.

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OK excuse my "dumbness" but by phase do you mean phase shift?

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I don't misunderstand at all, you do. They went after INFLUENCIAL people in their exact target market. The people beating down their door are just people, groupies if you will. They want people that have the ability to bring as many people as possible once the game goes live.

Viral marketing.

It can backfire though, if the product sucks those same influencial people can influence a lot of people.

Just so it's clear, you are upset because you were not offered a beta despite wanting one, while someone else was?

If that is the case you are not one of the people I'm talking about. People get upset all the time when they aren't picked first for dodgeball.

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You basically just said what I said in a different way, so how am I misunderstanding? We're not talking about me, and nowhere did I mention my status in regards to that game. For all you know, I'm in the beta. That doesn't mean I still can't be disgusted about how they are treating prospective potential subscribers.

Deciding who is influential and who isn't based on... well, whatever the hell they used this game to base it on is ridiculous in itself. Sure you can do it, but that doesn't make it intelligent. Your explanation of it displays that pretty clearly.

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If we are basically saying the same thing and I more or less rephrased my original post then I guess neither of us are misunderstanding. At which point I'll just resort to the low road and say - you started it

Sorry, you said "people like me" I figured people like you are you.
There are 4 possibilities:
-you are a guild leader and were picked
-you are a guild leader and were not picked
-you are a 'nobody' in the lineup waiting to get in the club
-you are a 'somebody' in the lineup waiting to get in the club

I don't care which one you are, but being "distgusted" is very immature. Celebrity (or in this case, being a person of influence in their eyes) brings certain advantages and disadvantages.

If you are still waiting in line to get into the party and you are pissed cause others got bumped ahead of you then I'm sorry.

If you were picked and got offended I'm sorry

If you are a leader and didn't get picked I'm sorry

You sound as petty as the people that cry when they don't get in beta here.


From my understanding they targetted a number of people that were guild leaders, or otherwise have meaningful influence over a fair number of people. They are not omnipotent and missed some good candidates and probably picked some bad ones. I wouldn't call that ridiculous. I would call it intelligent, though we obviously differ on what we feel constitutes intelligence.

fire or spines. Regen is the way to go, though if you are decent running and don't shy away from phase then /fire armor can do some great things and offer up a heap of extra burst damage.

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Hi all,

I just have a relatively quick question. I am recently returning to the game from a 2 1/2 year or so hiyatus and have serious altitis. I must have gotten 15+ characters around level 20 since I have come back. That being said, I finally decided to roll a Dom and so far I am having a blast with it over my other toons.

Now that I have prefaced it, i guess ill ask the question lol. I rolled a Mind/Elec both for the concept and because out of 5 years or so of playing this game - the break, I have never played an elec toon. So far its great but will I regret the secondary end game, ie. pvp and pve? Im not a min maxer by any means I just want to know if its a viable combo.

Thanks for your time guys/gals!

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Mind/elec is a great choice for both pvp and pve, though you may find you need to focus your build on one or the other if you don't want to spend tons.

Appartently the largest issue doms have is not enough damage, of which /elec and /fire are tops and offer nice damage boosting powers.

Additionally the proposed dom buffs coming after i15 will be very nice if you are strapped for cash and not looking to make a heavy investment in going from zero to hero in late game.

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I could understand Nissan getting mad if a Toyata rep came in to a Nissan dealer and did it, but there is no reason for me the customer to feel anything other than excited.

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I would worry at a company that is so oblivious as to do that.

Now, if they are camped outside the lot, that's another thing entirely.

It's just rather bad taste.

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I wouldn't, we are bombarded with aggressive advertising every day.

In this case it was no more intrusive than RMT's. If a 2 second nothx is getting people so riled up, then I'm not sure what to think.

I never said it wasn't in bad taste. Most marketing is lol. Goes with the territory.

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I understand PS getting mad at it, but I don't understand ANY player getting mad. Not only is it a compliment to you as a player, but it is a free opportunity.

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Hell, they still haven't accepted Repeat Offenders' guild application to the CO beta, and even Castle has publicly admitted the impact RO has had on this game.

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Like I said, most of the people trying to get in aren't influencial. they may/may not meet the testing requirements for the beta, but they may fail to meet the marketing requirements at that particular time.

I'm sure they have their reasons for not accepting RO at this time. We are all just guessing as to what they are though.

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not to dis what he's done... but from what I understand the CO dev staff (Emmert is not a dev over there, IIRC) isn't 100% professional in their public remarks about CoH/V. Which makes me wonder how good their work ethics are if their ethics are not 100%.

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I haven't seen anything they've directly stated about CoH/V, but I have been getting this same impression from that whole team. The whole "I'm sorry... (that we got caught)" thing with inviting popular CoH players to their beta certainly didn't help. I don't think those were the devs though, which is why I generalized it by saying the team.

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It was likely their marketing team that came up with that idea, but if people want to believe it was Jack soliciting them they will.

I have a hard time blaming them for targeting influencial people in their exact target market. I'd be a lot more upset if that game was live and running, that would be poaching. As it is I look at it as "hey you are an 'expert' in this field, would you test our product and give feedback?".

I understand PS getting mad at it, but I don't understand ANY player getting mad. Not only is it a compliment to you as a player, but it is a free opportunity.

I drive a nissan, I sure wouldn't get upset if Toyota sent me a letter asking me to test out their new car in development. I could understand Nissan getting mad if a Toyata rep came in to a Nissan dealer and did it, but there is no reason for me the customer to feel anything other than excited.

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You misunderstand. The reason it made people like me upset is because they provided beta access to people in another game, who in some cases weren't even following champions online or had any intention to do so. Meanwhile, beta is still closed for people to people who had been eagerly following the game and been signed up and waiting, and in many cases, still are as I type this.

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I don't misunderstand at all, you do. They went after INFLUENCIAL people in their exact target market. The people beating down their door are just people, groupies if you will. They want people that have the ability to bring as many people as possible once the game goes live.

Viral marketing.

It can backfire though, if the product sucks those same influencial people can influence a lot of people.

Just so it's clear, you are upset because you were not offered a beta despite wanting one, while someone else was?

If that is the case you are not one of the people I'm talking about. People get upset all the time when they aren't picked first for dodgeball.

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Yeah, thats one I would have to say video or it didn't happen.

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I make arcs with every new patch because it either invalidates them or I have to redo all the enemies that they have arbitrarily changed.

Certainly not how I had envisioned using the system lol, but it probably helps keep activity numbers up so they can bring that up in manager meetings and talk about how successful it is.

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not to dis what he's done... but from what I understand the CO dev staff (Emmert is not a dev over there, IIRC) isn't 100% professional in their public remarks about CoH/V. Which makes me wonder how good their work ethics are if their ethics are not 100%.

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I haven't seen anything they've directly stated about CoH/V, but I have been getting this same impression from that whole team. The whole "I'm sorry... (that we got caught)" thing with inviting popular CoH players to their beta certainly didn't help. I don't think those were the devs though, which is why I generalized it by saying the team.

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It was likely their marketing team that came up with that idea, but if people want to believe it was Jack soliciting them they will.

I have a hard time blaming them for targeting influencial people in their exact target market. I'd be a lot more upset if that game was live and running, that would be poaching. As it is I look at it as "hey you are an 'expert' in this field, would you test our product and give feedback?".

I understand PS getting mad at it, but I don't understand ANY player getting mad. Not only is it a compliment to you as a player, but it is a free opportunity.

I drive a nissan, I sure wouldn't get upset if Toyota sent me a letter asking me to test out their new car in development. I could understand Nissan getting mad if a Toyata rep came in to a Nissan dealer and did it, but there is no reason for me the customer to feel anything other than excited.

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Once again like I said, im am use to people backing that claim up with video nothing more nothing less.

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Then make a video. You said you have a nw yes? Blaze the trail and lead by example.

The ONLY time more than someone saying they did it is required is if it is a very difficult AV(s), or it is a build that would struggle to produce the necessary numbers to do it, ie Khelds.

As it is, AV videos are very boring, sort of like baseball (imo) fun to play, boring to watch. The NW population is probably 1/1000th the scrapper population and there is only a handful of scrappers posting vids.

If you want video proof then make video proof. Embrace the pioneer spirit.

Look at a NW's damage chain and calculate the sustained dps. Now look at how easy it is for a NW build to have soft capped def along with scaling res akin to SR. Now add in aidself like non dm/sr scrappers do.

They do enough sustained dps to kill many AV's and they have enough survivability to do it with no insp, temps, or click accolades. In fact their survivability with softcap def, aidself, and placate is practically god like vs a single target. At a glance they can easily hit 130+ dps (very likely much much higher) which is enough to get the job done.

There is no need to doubt anyone's claims unless they have posted a very difficult AV.

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I realize that build meets his criteria, but not having Blaze offends me.

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And makes it full of fail

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Am I the only one who's strongly reminded of the Issue 5 era right now? Massive anger on the forum over game changes, frenetic developer work, and an expansion on the horizon?

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There's massive anger on the forums every issue. Don't worry about it.

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I sense much fear in these posters... Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to the Dark Side.

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Which leads to playing a morally ambiguous villain that does rescue missions and tag along hero content

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I fully expect to see some form of the PvP diminishing returns added to all PvE encounters soon, as well as possible reductions in character attributes.

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Nope.

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They don't "plan to". They also didn't plan to use the locked recharge mechanic on existing powers and then it hit a couple hundred pet powers

I wouldn't fund my retirement on anything beginning with "don't plan to"

Last I checked they didn't plan on MA getting bent over a barrel. They didn't plan on deleting legitimately leveled levelpact players. They didn't plan on the massive pvp overhaul resulting in LESS pvpers.

Plans change. Ask a dev to clear up the matter and promise DR won't happen in pve. I'd really like that as my confidence in this game is very shaky lately. Which as a 3.5yr vet makes me sad. This has been by far my favorite mmo and probably my favorite game.

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What is this that I hear about de being the new meow and that it is even better then the old meows??? Is this gonna be needed sand a big crazy brawl is gonna break out again??

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And you felt you needed to post this why?

In case you felt this was some kind of exploit, I feel I should mention that pointing out specific exploits on the forums for all to see is as frowned upon by the devs as those that actually do the exploiting.

Petition it in game, but don't bring it here. All it will do is make trouble.

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Seriously...


What a foolish post this guy has done. It makes him look very very ignorant really.


Oh, and the dev's "are" doing something about those who exploit MA missions, they are p3rma-b4nn1ng accounts as well as stripping accounts of M.A.-Xp1oit bui1t characters. I know someone who had as many as 20 removed and 2 accounts p3rma-b4nnd. I don't think the dev's are too happy or proud to be forced to take these measures though (which I understand), hence why most posts about these r3movals/b4nz have been quickly de1eted to save face and keep the community at ease/happy. Also hence why I'm sorta doing a wee little to obscure those key words above lol, so they don't de1ete this too quickly I think it's perfectly ok that the forums know about these, it'll serve as a good warning to those who wish to further exploit MA missions. They will KNOW for sure that there are consequences to doing that.

Obscuring characters doesn't confuse me much -Mod08

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This made me laugh. I like Mod 8.

i16: fleeing to the other side to escape Diminished Returns (but they are already waiting)