Wicked_Wendy

Oh Mousedriod I had this same thing happen to me once in Faultline. I was on an 8 man team and exited a mission. I guess everyone else came out normally but I ended up in my own little completely empty zone. I even tried to escape by using the gate and heading to Skyway.. wouldn't let me do that either I had to LOG off and back On.. then get reinvited to the team before I could continue.

Noobs? No don't confine that to new players I have been on teams with a leader sporting 50 months plus Vet badges that are still wandering around with the attitude I MUST have a Tank to control aggro, I must have a healer to keep us alive, and I must fill the team with Scrappers and Blasters for maximum damage. I just ran a very successful Numina TF on Friday with Myself as leader on a Warshade along with a bunch of Defenders and Controller and one lone Scrapper. Granted Numina when organized well is not a yough TFto do but the oonly time I ever needed to switch my WS from Human to Dark Dwarf form was as we took out Jurrasic in the final mission. WAY too many VETS out there running teams that never quite got over that old school mentalitt there is one lone team build for success. I agree with Tonality... this argument has been going back and forth as long as the game and the forums have existed. If it can't move, can't hit me on aregular basis, is taking damage at an excellerated rate and what damge it does d is being healed faster than the baddies can dish it out...we win. Best teams I have been on were full of Trollers and Defenders without a Scrapper or Tank in sight. I did an all Controller KHTF that finished in 19 minutes. Took down Adamastor with a 4 man team.. 2 Controller, 1 Defender (Rad?Rad) and my Warshade in Dark Nova mode.

If you keep running into that mentality (to the OP) do as was suggested.. From your own team and build it the way you want!

Yeah that was sort of my point... I guess this So Called Tank had seen other tankers in action and assumed he was supposed to run ahead and drive multiple mobs nuts. The problem was he wasn't doing anything, including attacking them, to maintain it. He'd turn and rush back at a team full of Blasters, Troller and Defenders (al squishies of a sort) and when the huge mob following him hit us they broke off and started attacking us.. resulting in mutliple dead team mates. Oddly enough one of the few that did survive hese disasters was our concept tank because he just kept running away until he was so far back everything lost interest in him since we were all there to pound on. I'm not sure what his so called "concept" was but it bore a striking resemblance to Shaggy and Scooby Do... Just let the bad guys chase me as I run away in total fear and someone will eventually save me! LOL

As for the Kin with no SB his comments just seemed sort of rude and he even added to them making it very clear he didnt care if any of us lived or died on the mission as long as he didn't die and got tons of XP. I wan't alone in that opinion as he was the topic of discussion after the leader kicked him and spent a few minutes looking for a replacement. Hey you want to build a solo only build fine.. go solo but don't advertise LFT and then get rude and nasty when someone asks .. "Why don't you have any powers that will help protect me?" Remember that the one person, in most cases, a buffer can't buff during a mission is him or herself. I had a player once scream at me inteam chat because he asked for CM and I didn't get it to him causing him to die. Well I'm sorry I ended up stunned and held on that same attack that you cause rushing ahead into the mob and by the time I woke up you were face down. At that point it seemed like a better idea to heal and buff the others so we didn't team wipe instead of running up and dying trying to rez you. Tha little story sort of demonstrates the need to HELP each other ...which is what a team is supposed to do. I buff you, you buff me, player 3 debuffs everything in front of us and HEY we win! Kin does have other benefits than SB and if the answer had been I skipped those to add more damage/whatever everyone would have been fine but .. "I could care less if you live or die I want XP" Umm "All those in favor of kicking the rude little troll raise your hand" *7 hands shoot up and the front door of the mission opens as a Kin is tossed back out*

OHhh Forbid hehehehe Send a tell back when they do that and ask if they enjoy grade school. No one can petition you because they don't like your build I love that one! Hey do what I do... I'm just flat out honest with them. "No thanks I am waiting on several friends I plan to team with." "No sorry I only have about 20 minutes left before I log and this solo mission I am on will take at least 10 of that." Etc Etc. I have had people send another tell back thanking me for at least responding.. there does seem to be a trend these days to just ignore everything around you in game. I Loved the PIC by the way.. I actually had no guy send a tell asking me to join his team. When I told him I was not interested that I was in my SG designing and building a new room he came back YELLING at me because my search message said I was LFT. I tired explaining that YES it did but if the little RED circle is on it means I am NOT interested. He wanted me, insisted I HAD to, change my message everytime I was or wasn't Looking for a team.. Yeah which would make me the ONLY one out of hundreds on line daily doing that. People don't take the time to READ anything in game it seems.


Like I told you in the PMs we exchanged it's your build and if you plan to do nothing but solo Build it anyway you like.... (Whispers.. Still think you should consider the Regen and Recovery auras they will help you even soloing and they do autohit BUT do what you like).

Oh Memphis Bill had a good suggestion too DUAL BUILDS I have those on a number of characters but that can get expensive depending on how much Influence you have and REALLY expensive if you are trying to IO both. If you can.. at least when someone INSIST that you "must" join my team you can switch to a build they will be happy with.. Or ignore them completely hey I had one team leader kick a Defender when he discovered he had Trick Arrow... "U Rn't a H3ALOR!" No he wasn't you goof ball but he did have some darn good holds, etc and I am an ILL/EMP you already HAS A H3ALOR.. well he had one anyway I quit the team over that before a single mission ran. LOL Ten minutes later I was on another WITH the same TA Defender and along with the Rad/Rad Defender and other umimportant types that do damage (kidding folks I play Tanks, Scappers and Blasters too) we tore through missions.. probably while Mr. I NEDZ A H3ALOR" was still trying to build his idea of a perfect team. Thanks so much for the very nice PM and enjoy the game :-D

That portion of that post Forbin is what we commonly refer to a S A R C A S M. Its a thing people do when they find something someone else has said on done so silly or stupid they come up with a totally rediculous statement that sort of sounds like they agree with that person but in reality they are making a joke. Oh by the way if you really are looking for that sign there is a tiny hidden tailor shop on PI that very few people know about that offers up a mission that will give you one.... and oh by the way that too is sarcasm.

The point being there is NO such sign and if I am out flying around and see your character with youre health bar in the red and facing 3 or 4 villains all still in relatively good shape .. I have NO way of knowing you are one of those few people that would rather die, go to the hospital, and LEARN A VALUABLE LESSON FROM THE EXPERIENCE. I've mentioned it several times now I have been HELPING people in game with buffs almost as long as I have played (4 years plus). I buff when I see someone in trouble that looks like they need help and unlike the nuts(?) that want to show off their new shiny buff and use it in Wentworths, at the Trainer, the Store, or Pocket D I only buff people I see on the street actually fighting villain groups. Unlike some I even take the time to see if they really need it.. why waste MY time if you are fine?

I check YOU first... How much life do you have left? How many villains are you battling? at times even what AT are you battling with? (A 30 level Blaster in Brickstown fighting eight 32 level Cery to try and get that new costume slot may need my help... a 30 level TANK fighting three of then? I doubt needs anything but more Crey)

I check WHAT you are fight.... what level are they? (Hey I see 40 levels pounding on 15 level Tsoo in Steel Canyon I seriously doubt they need me to stop what I m doing to buff them no matter how many bad guys there are) How much life do they have left and how many are left? (you are practically DEAD and there are three minion all still at full health and +1 or whatever higher than you pounding on you.. sounds like you are about to die to me).

If all that adds up to.. that guy looks like he needs a hand I drop in and give one. If a 50 level is in Skyway taking out 16 level Clockwork Bosses cause he wants his gearsmasher badge and doesn't feel like commiting to a Posi or Synapse to earn them... I have better things to do than swope down and buff him. On top of that if I did and then 30 seconds later spotted some poor 15 level half dead and facing 17 level Lost that not only are kicking his butt good but the Lost Boss has him asleep so he can't even fight.. I'd feel pretty bad if I couldn't buff him because I used them all up on that 50 and they are still recharging.

I am not your typical brain dead "Look I have a new power" Drive By Buffer .. I am a player that just happens to enjoy helping other players when it LOOKS like they need help. My point is some of the poster here seem to thing that NC Soft should devote Dev time, resources and whatever else to develop some ANTI-BUFF serum button they can push because they are annoyed. Sounds like in most cases it's occurring in places where with or without the buff its not affecting their ability to fight, live or die because they are not in a combat situation. A few other hard headed "Leave me alone I want to do it myself" types want something similar because "You buffed me now how am I ever supposed to learn what my powers can do?" Ummmmm how about finding another mob after I leave and starting over? Last I checked at no level in this game did you dramatically jump in ability after defeating 3 minions even if they happened to be enough to give you the XP to get to your next level. You get a new power at let's say level 12 and it has one whole enhancement slot you can put a 15 level IO or DO damage enhancer in to make it a little better. At the next level let's say it was an attack so you get 2 more slots and add a second damage enhancer and an accuracy enhancer. Now your power is starting to show you what it can become. Me buffing you while you fight ONE mob is not crushing your learning experience because you probably still have no real knowledge of what that power can do even at level 13. Hey I don't know how you enhance but on my scrappers, tankers and blasters at some point most if not all of my attack powers will wind up with three damage enhancers, one or two accuracy enhancers (depending on how accurate the power is to begin with) and if I have the slots a recharge enhancer or a range enhancer depending on which I need or want most. You are not getting that many slots on that power you took at level 12 even when you hit 13 so in reality you still don'y know exactly how well it can work.. have a really good idea based on what it can do then but you are still learning.

Okay so maybe I am not a typical Brive by buffer frankly my opinion is too many of you let way to many little things annoy you and ruin your game time. If any of you actually read all of my POSTs here you'll see that I agree the idiots buffing in WW and such are an annoyance. But enough to make me think we need todevote time, energy and resources to find a way players can stop the MADNESS? no! Unless you are ready to walk out the door of Wentworths how long are you going to be there? Your trying to sell salvage, IO enhancements, or recipes and get the best price... your trying to buy the same things and looking to get the lowest price. By the time you are done with all that how long is before that SB the jerk that walked by hit you with actually wears off? So becaue someone annoyed you for a minute maybe two you all want a BUTTON you can hit to prevent anyone from ever buffing you again. While we are at it can we get them to make one that turns off everyone's defense auras in Wentworth too? Hey it adds to the lag there and they aren't fighting anything why do they need those things on? BY THE WAY JUST TO CLARIFY THAT LAST STATEMENT WAS ALSO S A R C A S M!

If you are so dead set on the I can do it alone attitude do what some of the other posters here suggest. Stop fighting in the streets and get a door mission from your Police Scanner or one of your contacts and run it solo. You want to see how well your build does against higher level villains well guess what you can up the Difficult of that mission and face nothing but +4 level with bosses. If it turns out you SUCK on the way back from the hospital see the Field Rep. lower the difficult and reset the mission. Seem like a much more effective way to learn the way your powers work than running around looking for mobs in the street. Just keep doing that all the way to level 50 and you can stand proudly in front of Castle and yell in all cap in broadcast "I DID IT ALL MYSELF WITH NO HELP FROM ANYONE!" Oh at that point I suggest you retire you proud 50 and start all over since any ITF, LGTF, STF or any other team you may try to join is going to quickly realize you have no idea how to be a team player and kick you repeated.

I agree...

Okay I understand where the OP is coming from in one respect. If I am standing in WW selling why someone with a brand new BUFF they just have to show off needs to SB me is beyond my grasp. But I have, in my travels through the city, spotted a lone scrapper or tank taking on street villains and swooped down to heal and buff them so they stand a better chance of surviving and in almost every case when the player finished the last of the mob I got a thanks either in local or via a tell. If you see someone that is struggling why not lend a hand? Hey I didn't attack and steal kills.. Come on I am on a 50 level ILL/EMP Controller what do I need with a few mindless XPless defeats of level 15 Tsoo in Steel Canyon? All I did was get them back to 100% health Buff their END and REC and if available hit them with Fortitude.

Like I said I understand what YOU (the OP) meant I can't count how many time I have been at a trainer leveling and finished to discover I had been Sb'd or whatever X number of times. Gee thanks guys I am headed off to sell the useless enhancements I got doing missions, buy the ones I really need for the new slots or power I just picked up, head to base to craft and then Wentworths to sell again. By the time I am ready to do missions again that Sb is going to be a real help. But don't dismiss every willing buffer out there for the ones that do it for no good reason. I just stopped whatever it was I was on the way to do so I could heal and buff you keeping you alive to keep fighting. Hey OP don't want my help? Send me a PM with all you character's names.. I play on Virtue. If you do too I will tape the list up by my computer and gladly just keep on flying while the Tsoo, or whatever, send you of to the hospital. LOL

You're disclaimer sort of says it all. Did you manage to introduce any of these friends to some of the NON repetive things to try? Of course I realize they have to stick around long enough to attain the levels but Giant Monster battles, Stopping the building of a Clockwork Paladan in KR, Task Forces and Trials (you are still running from one door to another but with a binding theme behind it all and nice rewards at the end). Were any of them around for the Halloween event, The Winter Event (in and out of Pocket D), the Valentine's Day event (In Pocket D). Did any of them try leveling using the sewers in Altas rather than running door missions there in Atlas or in Galaxy? I have left the Sewers as high as level 10 in less than 90 minutes and that certainly is not running from one door mission to another. Did they solo constantly or actually hook up on large teams? I can solo with almost all of my characters but leveling is faster, easier and frankly more fun when you have 6-7 team mates along. I still recall the fun of doing Newspaper missions on an all MM team... when all those pets came out it looked like Gang War before "Gang War" ever existed. Did any of them do any badge hunting? Okay running around Atlas and KR picking up exploration badges and clicking History plaques isn't exactly thrilling but look how many serious badgers we have out there? Players that will devote hours or days to hunting down Fake Nemesis or Paragon Protectors for that next bright shiny. You never know what is going to peek a players interest and make them want to stay for years and we certainly have our share of badge hounds and few dozen Exploration badges may be all it took to make them hungry for MORE!

I understand they are casual layers but I had one ILL/EMP Troller that went up 14 levels on one long Saturday.. At level 11 she got an invite to an 8 man Positron and left at level 16. While she was at WW selling a message came out that a Synapse was forming and she quickly volunteered. After that I leveled (to 20) and took a break. When I came back all I was planning to do was her costume and cape mission and create a new look for her when I got an invite to Sister Psyche. She was half way to 21 when it started and so close to 25 when if ended I found a team in Talos and got her that final level for the day. So in about 7 hours of play time I went from barely able to survive in Steel Canyon to being half was done doing missions in Talos and IP. Would I ever do 3 TFs in one day again? LOL NO but when it was over I was amazed at her progress.

Let's face it as the very next poster pointed out it's an MMO and at some point they all repeat. You can only fit so many maps and so many missions onto a server and still leave room for the potential players so the lag doesn't drive them away. Low level missions are designed to help a player learn how his or her new power sets function and, hopefully, develop strategies that allow them to survive and thrive. On Contact, Radio(COH), or Newspaper(COV), you are going to find yourself running from one door to the next battling X villain group for a mission complete. But if you team up those levels fly by quickly and before you realize it you are in your 20s and HEY! I am almost half way to being a 50! Computer games and now On line MMOs are the children and grandchildren of the old arcade games and tell me PacMan and Mario Brothers in those days were not just as repetitive if not more so.

What some of the other have mentioned in true no signature hero in game is both a contact and a trainer so they'd be replacing BAB in Galaxy to give him a TF.. I like seeing BAB in Galaxy so let's find someone else. No idea who since it seems like every signature hero either trains or is a contact now as it is.. may need to create a contact for this.....

I do like the idea of a low level TF but maybe we should make it something shorter like a trial with a few missions and then a final confrontation. Problem with a 5-10 level TF is you put 7 or 8 players together running any missions and it wouldn't be long before all of them out leveled the task force they were on and were ready to do Positron. Also at that level villain types available are a little limited and we already have a Posi at level 10 that pits us against Circle of Thorns, Vahzilok and Clockwork. Off the top of my head how about a short trial involving Skulls, Hellions and Outcast?

Form a TF: Rumors are circulating that the Skulls, Hellions and Outcast are negotiating to set aside their past issues and unit to become much more of a threat. We need intelligence and now to find the site of this meeting and prevent it from happing.

Mission one: Defeat Bonecrusher and his Minions, searh for clues (One glowie containing some info on the meeting) SKULLS

Mission two: Defeat Hellspawn and his follower, rescue Detective Jones (Jones was kidnapped because he'd discovered more info on the meeting place) Hellions

Mission three: Defeat Tempest and his men, serch for clue (one glowie containing the final clue to the meeting place) Outcast

Mission four: Take the clues to Paco Sanchez in Galazy ( Paco pieces together the clues and gives you the location of the meeting)

Mission five: Defeat the gang leader and stop Frostfire (Hey I had to pick someone to be the AV/EB right? Scattered throughout a cave players will face bosses and minions from each group and then finally face off against Frostfire who came up with the plan to unit the warring gangs and wreck havoc on the city)

Okay it's rough but not too long and gives the TF and chance to battle all the gangs in order to find the location of the final mission. Add a badge.. GangBuster is taken so I don't have a clue what to call it.and maybe an added bonus of a accolade style power to help thise lower levels out .. how about something that boosts stamina for a short period of time ever 30 minutes?

As for War Witch I sort of agree she should stay a ghost. Hey she already has more work than most signature characters training heroes in Croatoa and both heroes and villains in Pocket D.