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but with the lead dev saying things like "no other content for issue 14" my hope fades

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Well, he didn't actually say that

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<removed by mod> i know he never said those words but what he did say was the same,

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Not really, we should wait on the clarification. It could be taken a couple of ways, I read it as him just saying that I14 would be able to stand alone as an issue, not that it actually would.

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I know they cant do an update on the scale of the new wow one but they could maybe follow there lead an give us a paid for update.

Anyone who likes the game would buy it and for those who would say "its not right to charge" well move with the times after all you get what you pay for in this world.

Even if paid for updates were going to far there is nothing wrong with bring some "wow" back to the game you never know if a big time update was on the cards the game could start being talked about in the pc mags again other than what is now, pc gamer few months back called this game "old" and not up to the challange of the new comic based mmos that are coming out.

I dont hate this game i love it and just dont want to have to find another game to play after four years of time spent here, but with the lead dev saying things like "no other content for issue 14" my hope fades

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A paid for update with loads of new content is something I can get behind too.

I think we'd have to wait a while for it though is all.

And Posi didn't really say that, but we're waiting on a clarification on that anyway so we should wait and see what he really meant.

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edit: Look, we're all hoping for something to wow us but you must understand that they've only just started with their new team. If we don't have something to wow us by the end of next year then I'll agree that the updates are half-baked, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until then.

It's up to you whether you want to wait that long.

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but i cant hide from the fact when they do an update they do it big time, so thats what im saying cox should be looking at,

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IE, take notes from there book, hope that is clear for you now


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Read my edit please.

If you don't want to then I'll summarise it here:

Bigger dev team = more resources to spend on updates = bigger updates.

Hope that's clear enough for you.

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So anyway, the point is, as WoW has a bigger dev team, they have more resources to spend on updates. plus they don't update as often as our devs do, so when they do update it seems like they've added loads and loads of stuff.

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WoW has it wrong - everything about it is wrong, wrong wrong
CoH has it's own style, which is a big part of the appeal - trying to copy WoW or any other game would dilute the things that makes CoH special.

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The only thing special cox has left is lake of content, seeing as how they have removed the speed of the pvp now,

Im not saying i like wow infact i have a wow account that i pop onto evey few months but i still find it a grind, but i cant hide from the fact when they do an update they do it big time, so thats what im saying cox should be looking at, stop giving us half baked so called content and move on to bigger and better things.

If cox had the kind of update on the scale of wow it would make my year as i like this game and just wish they would give us some new wow facter just like it did the first time i enterd atlas park and looked up at the huge statue and thought wow

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You DO know that WoW has a much, MUCH bigger dev team than any other MMO out there don't you?

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Yes i do and do you want to know why?.... Well i will tell you they have a bigger player base and why is that because they know how to keep there players happy.

Thats your lesson for the day vox now go sit in the corner and write out 100 times "i dont need to state the obvious"

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The reason they have a bigger player base has nothing to do with how they treat their players. They had a bigger budget starting up the game, they had a proven track record in making good games and they had more advertising.

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You can't force someone to do something they don't want to do, no matter how much you call them selfish or try to guilt them into it.

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Where did I say that ?
Are you reading the same forum as me ?

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You're complaining that people don't want to fill and calling them selfish! What exactly are you trying to accomplish by saying all of this if you're not trying to change people's opinions of filling?

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WoW has it wrong - everything about it is wrong, wrong wrong
CoH has it's own style, which is a big part of the appeal - trying to copy WoW or any other game would dilute the things that makes CoH special.

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The only thing special cox has left is lake of content, seeing as how they have removed the speed of the pvp now,

Im not saying i like wow infact i have a wow account that i pop onto evey few months but i still find it a grind, but i cant hide from the fact when they do an update they do it big time, so thats what im saying cox should be looking at, stop giving us half baked so called content and move on to bigger and better things.

If cox had the kind of update on the scale of wow it would make my year as i like this game and just wish they would give us some new wow facter just like it did the first time i enterd atlas park and looked up at the huge statue and thought wow

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You DO know that WoW has a much, MUCH bigger dev team than any other MMO out there don't you?

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And even if I personally am soloing, I'm playing this game. Not a console game. Not another game. I'm playing this game. The way I choose to. There's nothing in the EULA to say "YOU MUST TEAM OR ELSE."

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If this is the case you are in the wrong game, and I hope you never need help because your attitude makes me think that you don't deserve it.

Even if you are Soloing, filling takes 2 mins and doesn't require you to do anything!

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But people just DON'T want to do it, who are you to tell them that they MUST?

You can't force someone to do something they don't want to do, no matter how much you call them selfish or try to guilt them into it.

It's like asking someone who doesn't like dogs if they'll hold your dog leash whilst you go throw a frisbee for your other dog who's off the leash.

If they said no, because they don't like dogs, would you have a go at them for not liking dogs?

I expect to see the game grow over the next year IF NorCal get on the ball and start releasing these things like their graphics upgrade and other stuff they said they couldn't do in the past.

Hopefully we'll get plenty more content for 50s too.

If none of this happens and we're still dropping by next year, then I'll think there's a problem.

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and dont call me shirley

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There's irony in here somewhere...

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Maybe the person wants to play alone and doesn't want to team. Just because there are other people in the game doesn't mean you HAVE to interact with them.

Being on the receiving end of an unwanted fill/farm/whatever request does feel rather like receiving an unwanted sales call by the way.

If you do see a comment like that in a search then please do just leave them alone, what would you gain from antagonising them?

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Its not that I gain anything, It's just I hate people that look down on farming and advertise it. Makes me want to confront them...

Dunno must be my nature.

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It's their search comment though, they can write what they like there so long as it doesn't break the EULA. You're not going to change their mind or make them change the comment, you'll just get into an argument where you'll both probably end up petitioning and ignoring the other person.

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There's nothing "hostile" in pre-emptively letting someone looking for a Filler or Farmer know that asking that person is a waste of time.

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I just don't like it...

It makes me feel like I am a sales call when I'm actually playing a game.

~Grrr

I mean if your not in a team whats the issue with filling, assuming that the farmer is polite in asking.

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Maybe the person wants to play alone and doesn't want to team. Just because there are other people in the game doesn't mean you HAVE to interact with them.

Being on the receiving end of an unwanted fill/farm/whatever request does feel rather like receiving an unwanted sales call by the way.

If you do see a comment like that in a search then please do just leave them alone, what would you gain from antagonising them?

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Probably be bad due to Wrath coming out today as well. People have been prepping for it. More people will be scuttling off to WoW now it's launched.

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Traitors!!

On topic though was wondering about something I posted regarding player created npcs for MA.... was I correct in recalling them saying one of the reasons of hanging back and separating it from its initial i13 release slot was to add this feature, or had I been hit with Domi confuse when I read that,
I cant seem to recall the thread that was on (if it ever was )

P.S Traitors!!

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It was the major reason yes.

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Aye, and I do suspect that if 'I14' was just the Mission Architect and nothing else, not even a new costume piece or two then it'll be released in January as a sort of 'in-between issues' issue.

I would hope that they're working on I15 as much as they can so if I14 was released later than January then they'd have I15 quickly following.

Heck, if it took until March I'd hope that they'd bring stuff from I15 forwards into I14.

Edit: Oh and I'm sorry about the pyramid quote fight guys. It won't happen again between me and Londoner, I've made sure of it.

I love /ignore, and the ignore button on these forums.

No idea how many people I have on the in-game one but it's a lot.

It's been fixed now, no longer Premium.

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Wow what happened between sept 05 to dec 05 to get nearly 50k subs increase

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CoV

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And Posi said it "can and should stand on its own" not "will stand on its own".

There is an important difference.

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In context -- as a response to a direct question of whether I14 would contain only the mission architecht -- it's difficult to read Posi's words as not strongly indicating that I14 will, at least by and large, consist only of the mission architecht.

No, it's not a decisive, offical announcement of fact, but it is a very strong indication.

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It's an assumption based on a vague answer. He was asked directly whether I14 will only include the MA and didn't give a direct answer.

I don't see that as a reason for people to go ape over it, not that you, Leif, did..

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Erm, is that a premium member restricted interview?

I'm not paying to read that.

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That's weird... It was fine this morning, and now it's restricted? How odd.

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I wondered if that was the case, I can't see why an interview would be restricted to Premium members.

Somebody probably pushed the wrong button.

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Would now be a good time to point out that he only said that "it can and should stand on its own", not that it actually will?

Just because he believes that it should be an issue of itself, doesn't mean that the rest of the team has agreed with that and that it is what I14 will solely consist of.

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Well...

Posi is the main guy, so he makes the final verdict. If that IS the final verdict, then the game is going straight down the toilet.

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And Posi said it "can and should stand on its own" not "will stand on its own".

There is an important difference.

Erm, is that a premium member restricted interview?

I'm not paying to read that.

Would now be a good time to point out that he only said that "it can and should stand on its own", not that it actually will?

Just because he believes that it should be an issue of itself, doesn't mean that the rest of the team has agreed with that and that it is what I14 will solely consist of.

I've lost all desire to complete this, I'll post the ones I've finished up (12 -15) but probably won't do all the 50. I may feel like picking it up again later in the month but probably not.

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The "turning out exp" thing is for the On patrol blue double xp or for ALL the exp?

Because if it is for ALL the xp, the devs just gave the PLers a way to keep some characters eternally at level 46.

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Not putting things in the game in case a PLer might abuse it is no reason to stop putting things in the game.

I've drawn some more, I'm on 15, will post them soon.