TwoHeadedBoy

That's pretty much what goes through my head every time someone posts spreadsheets too.. Minus the clever delivery. My internal dialog is sort of bland.

I thought so, I was responding to dechs saying only alpha effected it.. Which isn't entirely true because it ignores the +recharge from spiritual.

So, you're saying the forms help to level up a Peacebringer... I originally posted in this thread in the first place saying PB's play better in forms because Timeshadow said that "you won't be realizing the potential" if you don't take forms... Which I think is the complete opposite of the truth.

Heck, my PB took Nova as soon as it was available because it was the fastest route to an attack chain in the low levels.. It was also respeced out as soon as possible.

As for the inherent, both White and Black dwarf need a taunt aura. You can't even be a bad tank if you don't hold aggro and protect your team.

From the post you were responding to, instead of retyping what I already said...

You're right that this is going way off topic, I only posted here because you said that "without the forms you won't be realizing the potential" which is something I completely disagree with. I responded and you started talking about while leveling up which is completely irrelevant to what started this in the first place.

Leveling up, you haven't reached your potential yet... So get clarion is a perfectly good response if the final goal is what's being discussed. At its' full potential, an all human Peacebringer also has light form... Fully realized, the forms put PB's at a disadvantage because they don't buff each other, you have clarion for status protection, you have toggles and set bonuses for survivability (and recovery as needed) and you don't have to worry about those toggles dropping, or only having access to a few powers while light form is on.

Ok, if it's that important to you either carry a lot of break frees or take Dwarf until you get to 50, and then spec over to a human only build once you're able to take clarion. White Dwarf isn't a break free.. You can't just pop in and out and not be stunned anymore. For the duration of the effects you'll be limited to the sub par attack chain. Enjoy that.

And if you play human only, you have a good HP boost and a self heal already... You're able to do so much more damage that you shouldn't need to worry about dwarf. If anything, wait to hit light form under tough situations. But once again... If you're playing human only you'll be doing WAY more in light form and getting much more use out of probably your best power.

If you're playing your kheldian seriously, you should get KB IO's anyways. You should also get an aegis psionic/status resistance. What are you planning on doing, popping dwarf every time you think you might get knocked back!? Heh, good luck ever doing any damage because you're going to be in dwarf all the time.

Human form with toggles is able to kill MUCH faster... I would rather take some damage and then use my +HP heal on top of my other heal and clear spawns faster then spend way too much time in dwarf form nibbling away an enemy's health.

When I play a character, I set a goal and work towards it. Obviously when you're leveling ANYTHING up, it's not going to be perfect until it's done.

Um, if you're already on your last bit of health you're doing it wrong. Usually you should be able to sense when you're starting to get into trouble and that would be the time to hit it. As for incoming mez, that applies to dwarf also.

White Nova has no benefit at all, there's no way to boost the damage so you're better off just using your human attacks, not losing your attack chain when light form is up or dropping your toggles. You don't have eclipse to keep your nova form alive or stacked mires to make it do ridiculous damage.

White Dwarf offers no real benefits either.. You can get the same survivability from having toggles that don't drop. Human form has a (better) foot stomp, and if you really want a taunt grab the pool. I guess the extra HP is ok but it's not worth dropping your toggles and limiting your attack chain while doing a laughable amount of damage.

If you just need a panic button, take quantum flight. Otherwise, you have essence boost for HP, the leadership and fighting pools for survivability (not to mention combat jumping or hover and your resistance toggles.) Without the forms buffing each other like on a warshade I can't think of a single benefit from taking forms.

edit: As for status protection, get clarion. You should take it regardless of if you have dwarf. Getting trapped in one form just because you're out of break frees is an excellent way to gimp yourself.

Peacebringers play much better without forms.

Yeah, my human only PB always has combat flight on and it's a gigantic pain to always have to drop it when I want to use kheld footstomp. I'm actually thinking of setting up a bind to toggle off combat flight and toggle on footstomp next time I play him.