TitoVendetta

has anyone heard if the 'powers that be' are trying to find a fix for that league scramble/drop issue, I havent seen any of the red names mention it in any of their known bug/known issue updates. Has me wondering if they are even working on it.

I as well as many others have experienced this issue, some times just one or as you described, scrambled on the team and/or dumped from the team unable to rejoin at all.

A team size of19 has been tossed around as a seeming threshold of some kind either eliminating the issue completely, or at least minimizing its occurrence.

Aside from the information from those that have experienced it, very little has been said to address or even acknowledge there is an issue.

still having issues with league function not performing as intended there are still people being dropped and teams being scrambled during loading of the trial, i dont think that was the way it was intended to work. also zoom is not functioning properly on the tailor since the patch

I havent had the chance to do more than browse the forums since the patch has there been any improvement in the trails as far as team drops and team scrambles?

I have only gotten to make a couple of runs at a trial in the last several days. still expereincing the same issues at the same team sizes, lock vs unlock hasnt seemed to matter under 19 or max capacity
lock vs unlock on team nearing capacity or over 19 the problem seemed to occur about 2 to one over 3 runs total that I have tried since I was taking any accurate notes. one out of three unlocked.

any word from the Devs on correcting the League kick bug???

still curious of any of the individuals that had been doing testing beside myself had anymore feedback

my playing time has been limited due to job constraints and so I was hoping someone might have mined some pertinent data

thanks

bump

and so sadly I say

Great we fixed the timer so we can more quickly get to the content I will be kicked from because there are too many people in this trial


DEVS PLEASE ADDRESS AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE LEAGUE KICK BUG!!!!

thank you for your responses

I play on a low population server, liberty

I am running a p4 3Gb with 1Gb of ram
I run an ATI radeon x1050 vid card and an SBlive! 24 bit sound card

the launcher settings are as indicated in your post, Gaia

these occurrences have occurred at all game settings supported by my system (not ultra)

I have experienced these occurrences on both locked and unlocked teams

in all but one instance all tm's were in the same zone

as many as 6 and as few as just myself have experienced this at a given instance


I would agree that this method of team filling is occurring, Magenta, since I have seen it occur even at initial joining of the league where as many as 7 teams have been created before the Star started to condense back down.

FACT; i have run multiple attempts at each of the trials; baf, kir lamda

FACT on those runs that were over over 19 members or completely filled to capacity I have been dropped

FACT on those attempts that have been below the proposed threshold of 19 or less than capacity I have not been dropped

FACT on the attempts where I have not been dropped I have been able to successfully navigate with no rubber banding slideshow or other drop in performance

FACT on those attempts that I have been dropped from I have been unable to rejoin no matter the locked or unlocked status of the league

FACT I have received supporting posts within this post, and seen and read other posts indicating the same behavior with in other posts

FACT I am listing these in this manner to be sure there is no supposition of hyperbole or exaggeration by anyone reading this post

FACT I have followed the suggested actions of my peers, and those required of me by development team and /bug whenever this occurs

FACT this is not a rant but a suggested listing of the facts involved in order to provide clarity for those that may have been confused or felt the issue somewhat muddied by frustration.

FACT I will no longer respond to posts from individuals trolling my posts to foment hostility or provoke aggression.

that certainly serves your twisting logic, how do you bend truth that way

interesting that you chose not to reference the first point which of course is the one I was refering to and would support my statement, nicely done spin dr.

I find it interesting that two people can maintain the same point of view yet one is told they are wrong and the other told they are right, it might lead one to think that the response is somehow biased by personal feelings.

all i have ever maintained is that the league system is 'not working as intended' and that the devs are letting the community down as a whole by not addressing or even acknowledging the issue.

thank you 37 for your support in this although I can understand your issue with my delivery, you agree my message is sound.

Ironblade......w.e.

Ahh but then you see i would only be able to run some trials, as it stands I have been able to run several, as a matter of fact I have been able to make map fall on every trial I have tried at this point provided they were below the magic 19 sited by many of the other posts.

and I want to be sure i am clear on this, if I can do the KIR with less than 19, but I am not able to run the KIR with more than 19 and this issue occurs before I am ever even able to see beyond the loading screen, I mean not lost map server, but dumped from the league and load back to pocket d or rwz or whatever start point, then I have every reason to believe its not my system its the game

While I appreciate your dogged devotion to the Devs, they, in this case are not doing the job we need of them, to repair a system that is flawed and not functioning as intended, god bless you for your commitment to the belief that the game is never broken its the player, but in at least this case I will have to defer to reason rather than faith, and fact rather than blind devotion.

this issue lies in the game

DEVs Please acknowledge the problem and then before giving us another worthless timer or silly bit of costume please fix the issue so we can all use it the way you intended.

first and foremost, while I do love a good debate. to say the baseless supposition is in fact the requirement is just another, well. baseless supposition. If NC Soft doesn't say its needed then clearly it isn't, wouldn't the game developers know better than anyone what is required to run the game start to finish.

And after all they don't say there is a problem with the league function and you are willing to accept their lack of acknowledgement of the league issue as vindication of your point, along with the fact you have been fortunate enough not to experience it yourself, that it it must be my fault, or at least the fault of my system.


which brings me to my second point, were my system the issue one would safely maintain I would not be able to run any trials, and all my previous data would further support that position....until last night. for you see on a team of limited numbers(under 19 as the bug reports and testimonials have maintained) I was in fact able to participate in a trial, KIR in fact. and although I know one piece of data doesn't mean the magic number of 19 is proven.
it does support the idea my system is not the issue, since I have made no modifications to it or the installation of the game.
Particularly since this data is supported by others in their posts.

Perhaps Ironblade, you are the one who has been speaking 'nonsense', and I in my efforts to bring this problem to the notice of the developers have in fact simply been trying to make the game better.

to the mods:this is not a rant but in fact a triumphant cry of vindication for my point has been given supporting evidence which I hope provides further impetus for the design and development team to at some point acknowledge and address the league issue

I am wondering if the league kick bug will become a known issue, leagues over 19 are having members kicked at random during the initial zone into the map as well as having members scattered and scrambled to include leadership being reassigned.

Avetea have you guys looked into that bug?

I can go by nothing other than the NC Soft stated minimum, why?... because anything else would be baseless supposition.

Should it be updated, I say yes, but that would mean someone would have to really look at what is required as a minimum, and those dollars are better spent figuring out the paragon point equivalent of the new widget for f2p or giving us a visible timer so we know how long we have to wait for the Trial that may or may not scramble our teams and kick random members over 19.

My only point before i get accused of going on a rant (which this in no way is but rather a condensed version of the issues I feel we are dealing with) is that I don't feel the Devs are addressing it in spite of the numerous /bugs being filed and posts being seen.

Again I plead to the red names

Please acknowledge this issue somewhere, it is real, this is not the monster under the bed.
People are being kicked at 19 or more, teams are getting scrambled, and those of us experiencing it are being told it is our fault, when in fact the issue is in the game.

And before anyone state the obvious I would rather have leagues work than a realistic minimum requirement list

I had thought that if something didnt work as intended it was considered broken your new definition Ironblade does give one food for thought, if only you were speaking from real knowledge.

it has been repeatedly stated that we should, and I have, /bug if a feature in the game wasn't working as intended. Since I have a system that meets at least but not limited to, the minimum system requirements, and I have run a fully updated system scan, disc scan and have checked on the manufacturer sites for the latest drivers for my equipment I doubt seriously my computer is the issue. I would also like to state for the record to avoid any further accusations by the community i did all this prior to my first post regarding this issue because I would never question the game before making sure my side of the street was clean.

That all being said I would hope that at some point at some level the game designers/development team would acknowledge these issues so the community would know some action was forth coming.

This is not a rant in any way but simply a post to clarify what steps i have taken to try and address the issue from my end and a plea to the devs at large to at least recognize this issue publicly so so those of us experiencing it can stop being told its our fault by the rest of the community.

The League function is broken please fix it
I would love to enjoy the new content you devs worked so hard to provide for us, unfortunately it is clearly more important to adjust a timer than it is to correct our ability to use the new content.
I have tried over 2 dozen times to run the KIR and have yet to successfully even reach the zone map.
I have tried over 10 times to run Lambda(6+) or BAF(5) and have yet to be able to do so, although I will give that on one Lam the issue was graphics not game function related.

This "feature" of not being able to run a league over I guess the data now supports 19 although I have heard of instances of over 14 or 15 is not a feature at all its BROKEN.

Work arounds, suggested 'solutions', and other creative terminology aside its broken
Timer not broken, inconvenient and impossible to see yes, broken ....no.

So Devs, if you would be so kind fix whats broken, not what isnt

then move on to QoL issues for the community

or perhaps, with fee-dumb(intentional spelling) 2 play in the wings sheer volume is the desire, I guess I need to prepare myself for the fast food mentality from you all.

and the cry went out....

" you expect it to be free and to work? yeah right, you want a timer with that? please pull around to the next window"

Please excuse my confusion but what part of

"The only solution..." am i misinterpreting?

that's not a solution its a broken tool that doesn't work as intended. If your car only went to 25 mph would you call that a work around? no its broken unless its what it was designed to do, in which case tell us that how its supposed to work not well the speedo goes to 110 but you cant get it to go that fast. Good grief you would swear I attacked him personally.

his suggestion isn't a fix or 'solution' its a vindication of my original point

=>the league function is broken FIX IT DEVS

don't give us timers give us full functionality first and thats all my post was designed to stress.

So OV let me get this right, your fix is to not use the system as it was designed??

ok then I suppose the best way to keep from having to buy tires is to not drive your car?

or closer to home, the best way to avoid xp debt is not to play?

your solution is to justify bad design and poor coding as an acceptable hazard of the game experience

we are here to fight super villains not bad game development


DEVS FIX THE PROBLEM

You know i could personally care less how long I waited, as long as i could actually go on a trial, since the intro of the KIR I have yet to be able to go on ANY, yes let me say that again over 24 attempts and not a single start, I have yet to be able to go on ANY trial, BAF Dropped on port, LAm Dropped after seeing a millisecond of slideshow, and innumerable KIR dropped on port, How about we worry about QoL issues with the game after we get the FUNCTIONALITY corrected!

example: wow thats great I get to get booted from the Trial in only 90 seconds and I cant join my group again!!

vs.

Boy that trail was awesome glad I got to go on that one the group was great, an experience worth waiting a couple minutes to get organized.

Cmon Dev Team fix the real quality of game issue rather than the power gamers desire to get to the punching quicker

I am having the same issue and not just with the KIR, but also with the Lam and BAF, so far SF/TF entry isn't affected which leads me to believe the issue is League related.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised it inst working well, given the lengthy testing that was done in a hurry to get out the last content before they leave us to our own devices amongst the F2P mayhem.

Just would be nice if one of their QoL "improvements" actually was improved to the point of working

Waiting for, but not expecting any attention to this issue

Recently turned to the red side and I am looking for advice on building my Ice/Pain Dom, Dr Phynetush.

Any and all hints and tips would be welcomed, I have made two pool choices already, Leaping for CJ and SL
and Fitness for all the usual reasons(STAMINA)

the concept I was looking at was slow recharge and slow recovery plus slow atack to mitigate some damage for solo runs and the two aoe heals to improve my survivability since they are the only two that I can use to heal myself
thanks