The_Thorny_Devil

Excelent, brill as ever

Scarred.......for.......life

Awesome Do it again, do it again

Sad to see you go mate.

I think of all the CoV defiant SG yours will be missed greatly. You were the most talked about (for cirtain reasons) in good and bad. Just a shame you had to fall to the hands of the mindless

But good luck in WoW, I have neve played it but my lover says it is a good game, so have fun and we hope you return to darken the daggers doorway! and some others

Peace out

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Well, my toon Professor Lente (on Zukunft) is Robo/Poison as well and his damage output is almost unfair. Unnecessary to say that I like him very much.
As I see it, one of the problems with necro MMs is that they have quite a bad reputation (at least on Zukunft). Many people don´t like that many pets around since they interfere with movement in caves or door-heavy bureaus. Robos are somewhat respected because they bring a lot of damage and are ranged combat which alleviates movement difficulties quite a bit. (Lucky me that I fell in love with them during the first days of beta... ) Mercs are ok in most books because of that ranged combat advantage (although they just don´t look special enough), but ninja are tricky... mostly because their seemingly less than optimal half-ranged AI and that ridiculous looking poor creature called oni.
But worst of all seem to be the zombies, partly because every gothic-wannabe in the game built a necro MM named Lord Evildark (or variations thereof) and annoyed the hell out of every team they played with. Those zombies seem to be excellent at one single purpuse: simultaneously generating mob aggro and player aggro. I have seen more than one brute with tears in their eyes because the zombies kept bodyblocking them mid-combat and I experienced more than one wipe because of rotting cadavres running amok. Best thing about them is that they die quite fast.
I am quite sure that there must be at least on necro MM out there who is able to make decent use of those smelly bastards, but unfortunately I have not met him yet.

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You obviusly haven't teamed with me then? I never agro and im always staying behind the team so they have room to move. Also I find in teams most people want me to send in my pets first to take the agro (only zombis and ninjas can do this). Then the brutes move in and I pick off any strays. The fact that you haven't met a zombie MM who can control there's sugest that they dont understand there build. I use my zombies to take agro and die for the team. Yes the do die fast, thats the whole point of them. Ask anyone who has teamed with me(mostly dagger boys) and they will say im very good with my zombie MM. Im sure someone reading this post has teamed with me before!

I could say a lot about robo MMs as iv teamed with plenty before. The fact is that they all have there good and bad points. But I just dont understand why everyone dislikes Necromancy.

My main in CoV is a necromancy/dark MM.
I hardly see any necromancy MM's, almost every MM I see now, is robots. I was in a team the other day with 4 robot/ff MM.
Is it something to do with them being robots, or just poeple hearing what I have herd. Some people say that zombies are no good and robots are the best.

So what is everyones view?

Ok this my sound a bit n00bish, but how do you go up against states?

I wanna kill him and make a zombie out of him !!

Sweet

Pinky, are you pondering what im pondering?

I don't know brain, but where are we ganna find a giant inflatable banana at this time of the day?

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Well, I guess eveyone's entitled to their point of view, even if it is wrong

The debate on CoH/CoV has been raised in countless other threads and the same old arguments will be trotted out. However, here are the pro's and cons of each game.

CoH

- More active community. I've had a look at a few figures over the last few nights and CoH regularly has around 30-35% more players on. What is interesting is that the gap is closing though and certainly in the last 2-3 months, CoV has been catching CoH up as back in February, it was closer to 50-60% more.

- Better teams. The quality of teaming on CoH is better than CoV in general. Several reasons for this with the two main ones being that CoH AT's complement each other more and there is a lot more knowledge about on how to team on CoH due to it being around longer. Most of those complaining about bad teams on CoV do seem to be a little forgetful of what teams in CoH were like over a year ago!

- More content. Goes without saying. More TF's, more zones, more GM's

- More variety. Each zone in CoH has it's own unique character, Peregrine Island, The Hollows, Shadow Shards, Terra Volta, they all seem very different with different enemy groups throughout. For CoV, Nerva and St. Martial stand out but the other zones all seem pretty samey.

- More enemy groups. In CoH, it's quite rare you will see common enemy groups throughout lvl 1-50 with lots of different ones available. In CoV, once you get away from Legacy, Snakes and Goldbrickers, you're pretty much stuck with Arachnos, Council and Longbow, with the occasional Rikti, Freak and Carnie thrown in. More high level content with some of the newer groups like Coralax would have been nice.

CoV

- More/better arcs. In CoV, all the arc's are interconnected. They really do so much more to flesh out the Co* world as a whole than those on CoH do. The time sepnt on this background just makes it seem more 'real' as an environment.

- It's challenging. I like the fact that teaming in CoV does take a bit more skill than CoH, the hero side of the game has always been too easy and the challenge in CoV is welcome. One thing I have noticed is that even on the lowest setting, CoV quite regularly spawns +1 enemies. Yes, soloing an MM is easy but no easier than soloing a regen scrapper was when CoH first came out.

- Much better SF's. The standout Eden aside, the SF's in CoV are of a much better quality than CoH. On CoH, there are some good TF's, on CoV they are all good. The crystal room of Ice Mistral, The sight of the Leviathan and stepping out of the boat to see the oil rig and swarms of sky raiders on the silver Mantis SF all give them something unique, which Citadel, Positron, Manticore and Co do not offer.

- More imagination for missions. OK, the missions will always be limited but I like the fact ambushes can take you by suprise on CoV, I like the fact there are almost none of the dull 'kill 10' or 'Visit Mr. X' missions on CoV.

- Better design. Crawling across 7 different zones to do missions before you get a travel power is awful on CoH. the fact one of those zones is the abomination of the Hollows where lvl 7 missions are given miles away in lvl 15-20 areas is stupid and being given missions in Perez when none of your teammates are on is sould crushing. The fact CoV has more of a natural progression thorugh the zones is a great move.

Overall

Both games have their good and bad points and CoH is still the stronger of the two. However, It's stronger because it's been around longer. Once CoV has the content and the community get's a bit stronger, I think that people will see a shift in the balance of power between the two.

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I agree.

I had been playing CoH for several months before CoV came out. I Started CoV and got hooked strait away!
Iv got my MM to lvl 40 and gone trough many alts. With the doorway thing. I useualy let everyone go through first and yes the set up times are stupid.
Me and the Mrs have not long gone back to CoH just untill I7, and we have found that traveling is so so SO stupid. The one time I had to go to Kings row then to steel then back to kings row then to perez then back to kings then to steel, once i got a mission it sent me to hollows???? I was only lvl 11 !!!!!! running around with mist to help keep me away from being killed by foes much higher then me worked (sometimes ). CoV might be gloomy but its way better organised with contacts and zone traveling then CoH is by far. The fact that on CoV you can teleport from you base to every zone but PvP is great.

Us villains are evil, Heroes are Good. Good = cheery, happy heroes helping eachother fight crime. Evil = angry, bad Villains who want the world and will stop at nothing to get it. Just remember Heroes, SOMETIMES (note that i didn't say everytime) you need a big team just to take down a Villain!! With my corruptor and MM, most of the time i can take down a hero, so maybe you are right that we are over powerd, but in the end, is there a Villain who wants to share the world? Im not saying that every Villain wants world dommination btw.

As a lot have said, CoH has bin around for much longer, (it was the 2 year anniversary the other week) and CoV is just starting, theres still bugs and disslikes in the game that the devs need to know. Thats why we have this Forum. We give out opinions and suggestions and they use it as ammo to change the game to our liking.

Just give CoV a few more months and im sure it will get better, after all the first issue made for it is about to arrive. There has been 6 so far for CoH!! It WILL get better

I proffer CoV by far, its far easyer to get into the game, i must have spent half the my time on CoH just traveling around. And I agree, we NEED a place in CoV where old and new can banter and give advice and have some monstrous cossi comps

Cool pics both of you
Another spiderman and batman fan I see?

cool pic, and the hair does look better

Perfect for me? Thx

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Thing is though, maybe that American guy on X-Box couldn't take it as well. Bit of kindness often goes a long way

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Well I was the only one NOT from America in that match and they all ganged up on me. I did nothing to them, I was doing very well and they sore it as a reason for ganging up on me and started shouting abuse at me and taking the micky out of my British accent. I retaliated in the only way I could being it was 1 on 7. It worked and kept them quiet. I ended up going from 1st to last because a Ragnorock kept stealing the kills on me for about 5 minets. I sent a e-meil to Xbox Live stateing what happend and I got one back saying there will be an investigation and that I was under watch aswell. Which is fair enough because I did give them abuse back, only I did it to get it off me! I got an e-mail saying that because I retaliated no action was to be taken. I thought that was ok but the fact that i wasn't treated fairly throughout the match did play in my mind!

Tbh I am part Irish but i was born in Hull!
And im sorry but I think of my self as British as iv lived in Britain all my life. I just can't take criticism very well.

Im sorry
Please don't hate me and close the thred

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It was ironic though that you posted about English being the best language and then failed to use it. And facts about ancestors could be rude as well. Hence, Glass Houses...
(Note: I'm also chucking stones as I haven't the best command of English, hence pot/kettle as well )

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Then who are you to judge me? I didn't use it? hang on, I talk it and type it, yes sometimes my spelling can be bad I addmit, but that doesnt give you the right to spell check it.

And the facts about our ancestors were that, Americans are our cousins as Mr Chris Collumbass was after all British so I told this guy on Xbox live , about 3 years back, to go home! He quickly shut up

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The Americans speak what they call "English" which is simpler and less brain teasing than the original and BEST British English.

That made me laugh like a drunk hyena and then I got back at him with a few facts of his ancestors.

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Glass houses?
Calling us Brits is like calling Americans "North Mexicans".

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Does anyone else think that was rude? I get his point but i don't post to have it spell checked! I addmit my spelling isn't great but i live with it, can you at least try?

Good pic, Contructive?

looks goog enough to me

COOOOOL pic there knighty

Great pic, kinda "cartoony" I like it maybe you could draw pics of all your favorate heroes and villlains would be cool to see them all drawn this way

Oh and em....
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FYI they've cancelled I7 and decided to replace all the in-game textures with pictures of David Hasselhoff.


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lol

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Heyy, at least we know how to ward off scurvy .

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True, and as us British people were born in England, we speack English! The americans speak what they call "english" which is simpler and less brain teasing then the origonal and BEST British English

I'll never forget the day i was playing Mech Assault on Xbox live and was told by an American to "Speak english" and "Go home" That made me luagh like a drunk Hyena and then i got back at him with a few facks of his ansesters


OH and back on subject, Great luagh filled episode 12 there FG, bring the next

Take your pick

Thorny Devil........= necra/dark MM
Furious Thorny.....= fire/dark corruptor
Numb Thorny...... = dark/stone brute

I tried, in my last respec to get rid of my personal attacks but couldnt because i didnt want all the /dark powers, my necro pets do most of whats in that set anyway!! Could have realy done with a few more pool powers But like some say, personal attacks come in handy when all pets suddenly go CAPUT!!

NO WAY!!!

AMAZING, ABSOLUTLY AMAZING!!

As always, soulasylum, very very VERY good

OK so im no computer geek!
Im gessing IE = Internet explorer and FireFox is a similer program but iv had no problems with IE so i see no need to change it!
I have top top virus and spyware protection software so i have no problems with them at all! So tell me? why should i use FireFox instead?
I suggest a list of all the pros and cons of both IE and FF and dont skimp and faver one please, i want everything good and bad about both!
Because this whole rattle about them is DOING MY HEAD IN!