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The public was outraged at the scores during the 2011 Mr. and Ms. Paragon Universe contest, until they realized scoring took place in the arena and were affected by Diminishing Returns. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Shadowy_Dream
As El__D said, i do believe the lower numbers are correct. While Mids does indeed calc ED, and it does show the damage Powers do in PVP (with some exceptions, like scrapper blaze mastery is all sorts of messed up), unless there is an option I am missing it does not show DR, which is a pvp reduction of almost all enhancement %s based on global %.
Basically all the ATs have different caps that they approach parabolic limit style (though more complicated than that) for various attributes like defense, resist, rech bonus, and so on. Arcanaville has done a big write up on it, but i dont have the link handy. I do however have the SS she made for checking stuff handy, so if you know what your total res is in a regular PVE zone, you can figure out what it should drop to in a PVP zone (though you might also get some "free" resistance in pvp, i cant remember exactly how it all works).
Arcanaville's DR calculator
The cap is different for various ATs, and I am not sure what the limit is for VEATs, but i know that for blasters i get "funny" results like popping power surge only raises me from 44% to 46% when i take my pve blaster with tough/electric armor in for kicks lol.
[edit] well, looks like someone beat me to the meat of it, though the link to the SS is still handy
Yeah and you can see in that table why when you pop power surge you only get to ~46% because you are hitting the hardcap for resist and that DR's to ~46%. -
Resistances:
Code:A = Blast/Con/Def/Dom/CorrBase A B C D MM 20% 17% 18% 18% 18% 16% 25% 20% 23% 22% 21% 18% 30% 23% 27% 26% 25% 21% 35% 26% 30% 29% 28% 22% 40% 29% 34% 32% 31% 24% 45% 31% 37% 35% 34% 25% 50% 33% 41% 38% 37% 27% 55% 35% 44% 40% 39% 28% 60% 36% 47% 43% 41% 29% 65% 38% 50% 45% 43% 29% 70% 39% 52% 47% 45% 30% 75% 40% 55% 49% 47% 30% 80% 41% 57% 51% 48% 31% 85% 42% 59% 53% 50% 31% 90% 43% 62% 54% 51% 32%
B = Scrap/Stalk/Brute
C = Tanker
D = HEAT/VEAT
MM = Masterminds
This is a table arcana posted for DR on resistances. You can see that your Mids Resist is listed on the far left and your true value is under D- Veats/Heats. -
The ladder has finished. Thanks to everyone who participated we had some great matches and a lot of fun.
The final rankings are listed on the 1st page and I will send your forum names to Avatea for your prizes. -
3-0 Masque
GFs Shade! -
Quote:Originally Posted by BaronVonSavage
Ok mate - you are AWNNN.
Grudge match of the Century!
Ok not really, but it is the last week so we have to hype it up a little.
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Quote:Originally Posted by macskull
I don't get this.
You really don't see the issue with incarnate powers in PvP?
Every AT can get a massive heal, long lasting DoT proc damage, pets that do PvE damage in PvP, nukes for everyone (including tanks and scrapper- sucks to be you MMs).
Thats just one side of the issue, the other is the flip of the old:
"why do I have to go to pvp zones to get my badges?"
I would say:
"Why do I have to PvE to get my super PvP powers?"
Not only do incarnates sort of make it necessary to run itrials, when they release new versions of powers (look at lore) and they are much better than the old ones you have to run the trials all over again to build up that new power set.
Also Kat not sure if you understood what I ment by broken powers: I was thinking of things like Ninja run when it was unsupressed SJ in PvP or Poison Ray when you could stack its -res up to 40%, things like the level of spirit shark would fall into the last category I said, "other stuff" because while yeah sharks are pretty over powered, they aren't really broken. -
Honestly, players getting powers higher than what they are exempted to really screwed up the pvp zones.
I used to love to pvp in Sirens when it was T9-less. Warburg was a fun place to fight without epic powers. Lowering the level to take epics from 41 to 35 once again really screws with the pvp zones. (or maybe as Dahjee might say- an opportunity to adapt but not adjust or something)
Sep- I am not going to speak for Ares but from what I'm reading he isn't opposed to stalkers having spirit sharks, just opposed to them having access to spirit sharks in Sirens.
Ares- You can get epic sheilds on blasters from Soul, mu and lolmunitions at 35 so you can't really use that as a reason for not allowing sharks in Sirens.
Critical hits from Sharks is and always been kind of ... well ... you know. I mean with the current system a team of 3 stalkers should be able to kill anyone in the zone with almost 0 risk to themselves. Shark then go into Phase. I'm not sure even a WP tank could survive 3 shark crits. This is totally different than back when you could 2 shot a blaster with a stalker (back when ET was amazing not amazingly slow) because you still had to have some skill to get an AS off on a moving target and follow it up with ET (of course back then we could always tp a target back for a 2nd AS).
As far as bigger issues to fix for pvp- yes. I think though there will always be a difference in view from arena pvpers to zone pvpers and even from RV pvpers to Sirens pvpers.
I would fall on the side of- fix broken powers 1st, then TS, then remove incarnates from PvP all together, and then whatever else. -
Quote:Originally Posted by BaronVonSavage
Sweet! Who do I challenge/who challenges me this week?
I'll Challenge you. -
I'm really sad, not fake sad like I usually pretend to be when someone leaves.
Ele-
I'm good, thanks for the offer, Chan reminded me I'm the 1%.
hurry up, I'll just pvp till you guys get back and we can speed some stuff. -
My choice would be whatever keeps the league going the longest as it will be months (if ever) before someone forgets how big of a headache it is to run one of these and wants to run another one.
So
1 or 2.
I would also suggest you don't limit the play offs to the top 4 teams as perhaps some of the other teams would still like to participate in pvp. -
And they said PvP was dead.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Daknah
Masque both the fpvpl and the FML were points through playoffs.
Good to know, there is the precedence then.
Kat- if you think the system is flawed then just change it or call for a capt's vote.
Honestly, I don't care I just want to play. -
Quote:Originally Posted by BaronVonSavage
Sweet! Who do I challenge/who challenges me this week?
With Loopy and MP fighting and the potential Smallz vs Saga match up.
You could challenge:
Pomade
Bug
myself
or wait till after Wednesday and if no one challenges you, you can challenge down the ladder. -
Quote:Originally Posted by _Velociteh_
Well, that really makes my point more than hurts it, and I'm glad to hear that Shenanigans is still trying to compete, and even if you're not a Captain anybody can give feedback on it, but when push comes to shove it will probably come down to a Captain's vote, which I would hope is representative of the majority of their respective teams.
Also, I wasn't trying to take a potshot at Shenanigans or anything like that, it's just that some of your teams practices and lackthereof sort of lead me to believe that that is the case.
I don't recall any instance of points being awarded during playoffs which then are added to the total from the current season.
As far as your posts about Shenanigans. According to your own GP site we have practices 3 days a week against Ware, Exile and HB, you have practices 3 days a week against Ware, Us and FAP. So I think you must be a little loopy from the loss of blood per the MOTD in your backup channel.
We will have to see wont we?Quote:I think it's pretty safe to assume Exile would not beat WARE 3 times in a row, nor would Shenanigans beat Exile 3 times in a row. -
ELOs- post week 5 one more week to go
1st) Saga Vampyri- Saga- ELO (1661 )
2nd) Violet Hill- Smallzies- ELO (1659)
3rd) Kifo Baridi- Loopy- ELO (1641)
4th) MP- Madame Pistacio- ELO (1634)
5th) Masque- Masque- ELO (1631)
6th) Bug You 2- Ghetto Bug- ELO (1612)
t7th) Pomade- Second City Saint- ELO (1603)
t7th) Shade Savage- (ELO 1603)
t9th) Ghost of Kings Row-Neuronium (ELO 1602)
t9th) Chan- Waterbladez- (ELO 1602)
t9th) Teh Pyro- (ELO 1602)
t9th) Rice- Eat Rice- ELO 1602
Hemm- ELO 1601 (Psy/em)
Pixel- ELO 1601 (Dark/MM)
Xury- ELO 1601 (MA/regen) -
Quote:Originally Posted by Madame Pistacio
Unfortunately mmp and I lost power about 90 minutes ago. I am posting from a phone now lol. The rest of this event will be rescheduled for 5 pm eastern tomorrow. Many apologies for the inconvenience.
oh... and here I was upset I had to go out to dinner and a movie. This is indeed good news. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Smallzies
2-0 smallz
2-0 saga
1-1 tie
great matches btw, I dont think anyone can argue you guys belong in the 1 and 2 spots. -
Later dudes.... this sucks.
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#5 Masque challenges #6 Pomade
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Still going-
there is a sticky post if you wanted to join and challenge someone. -
Pre-i13 PvP wasn't exactly perfect either... just saying.
Dahjee-
I have read over most (not all) of your comments about TS/HD, and if we can be honest- the reason that TS/HD even got placed in the game was because people were complaining that that they couldn't get kills in PvP zones. It should be noted that these players who voiced those concerns may not have been the majority of pvpers (good or bad) just the most vocal. So the devs looked into what would give the zones 'more kills'.
So when you hear people saying TS/HD is pvp on training wheels its because it really did hinder people ability to play fast paced (team style) pvp. Now pretty much the side with the most people is winning where as back before TS/HD you could have a small group of well coordinated pvpers run a zone against a group of people twice their size (numbers not weight).
I will agree with you that removal of TS/HD without looking at other aspects of pvp 2.0 would/could cause issues. TS can burn in hades, it can go and I don't think anyone would have an issue at all. If your melee and you can't catch a running character then you need to get some webnades and get on the treadmill. HD however might be an issue if they just remove it without looking at inherent resists. Defenders with a self heal and high inherent resists would be pretty hard to kill without HD and now with their new +damage based on team size its pretty easy to make an offender.
You can't really just roll back HD+inherent resists without looking at the new power damage modifiers.
Maybe im an optimist but I do think the Devs want to try to fix PvP but honestly I think they maybe overwhelmed at what it would take resource-wise to fix it (or at least to make it better).
I would suggest- removing TS, its an easy fix and while you will have some people yelling and screaming, it is my opinion that the majority of pvpers would support this.
Removing HD- maybe- there maybe issues with this. Perhaps- not decaying someone's heal but decaying their resistance when they heal. That way people can't grief by healing someone into HD when they are in zone. It would make 'healers' targeted more because they would have lower resistances but it might work. -
Challenges for week 5 are live-
2 more weeks of duels. -
New ELOs so far:
Saga- 1661 + 4 duels= 1665
Smallz- 1659 + 4 duels= 1663
Loopy- 1631 + 4 duels= 1635
MP- 1620 + 4 duels= 1624
Masque- 1616 + 4 duels= 1620
Pomade- 1610 + 3 duels= 1613
Bug- 1608 + 4 duels = 1612
Kara- 1601+ 1 duel= 1602
Shade Savage- 1600 + 2 duels= 1602
Chan- 1600 + 2 duels= 1602
Pyro- 1600 + 2 duels= 1602
Rice- 1600 + 1 duel= 1601
Hemm- 1600 + 1 duel= 1601
Pixel- 1600 + 1 duel= 1601
Xury- 1600 + 1 duel= 1601 -
Quote:Originally Posted by Tokyo
Ya that one. She was before my time. I heard she was cool though.
You would be wrong.
Ex Libris was cool though.
