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Again its pretty simple, if you have any kind of posting history the mods are the ones that know definativly of it. If you posting history (for good or for ill) involve other people as well then its obviously going to be known by them.

Your request for people to provide a link to any thread that you may have participated in beyond a certain date is as impossible to find as my very first post in the CoV Forums. So using it as a means to conferm or deny established posting trends wont yield any results for either partys.

Its a pretty simple. Check and see how far back you can go on the Dominator boards. Odds are you wont beable to pull up stuff from 2005 or early 2006.

So only the shadow knows...that and the Board Mods & People involved with any peticulare board drama.

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What Kid Lazarus said to me was: "Given your long history of defending/ignoring/justifying anyone whose opinion is similar to yours, regardless of how egregious their errors or misbehaviors, while constantly complaining about similar behavior from people whose opinions run counter to your own, I'm not sure whether to find the above post funny, ironic or sad."

He is accusing me of defending or justifying someone no matter what they do, simply because they have a similar opinion to mine. This puzzled me because I have never done what he is accusing me of doing. I asked him to post a specific example of what he was talking about, and he refused. Then I got flamed by a couple of people simply for asking him to provide some specifics as to what he was talking about.

But, whatever. If that's how you guys do business, at least everyone is now aware of that.

[/ QUOTE ] To be honest, this board has undergone many wipes so he can no longer provide links of you doing so no more than you can provide links of your 1000th post. At that point only Cricket and Cuppa knows your history here (as well as a few others who have been involved with your posting history).

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Thanks, KL. That's exactly right.

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Bradd, thanks for clarifying that, based on your highest toon being level 33, you do not presume to offer build or tactics advice.

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OK, so what's the proprer procedure for reporting on-going character assassination?

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PMing Cricket.

[/ QUOTE ]I can vouch for this being the correct course of action. The sooner you report people for TOS violations the sooner they are dealt with.

No I dont think Defenders are overpowered, but then Defenders dont get Ice or Fire as a primary either.

Not trying to blaim Doms problems on Corruptors, but the simple fact is that Corruptors as a whole bring far to much to the table. What can you reasonably give Dominators to compete with the level of damage, support and mitigation a corruptor provides?

Heres my issue with your statment
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I can't think of a single situation in the game where a dominator is a better choice for a teammate than a corruptor

[/ QUOTE ]You can take out "dominator" in the statment and replace it with ANY VILLIAN AT and the statment would still ring true.

MMs have weaker secondarys, Brutes damage while great has to ramp up before it gets there (GG fury), and stalkers....poor stalkers simply cant compete with the damage a Corruptor can put out (what in a Stalkers arsenal can compete with fire breath, fireball, rain of fire, and blaze when its been augmented to rediculose levels by the likes of fulcrumshift?)

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Corruptors are not overpowered. They have a role and they fulfill it. As do Brutes.

[/ QUOTE ]Well, Corrs can do damage, they can do croud control, the can do buffs, they can do debuffs, they can heal damage that the other abilitys let slip through, soo..if they can do all this what else is there? And more importantly what can any other AT bring to the table that a well speced corruptor cant?

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Dominators are underpowered. I wish they were not. But they are.

[/ QUOTE ] compared to corruptors yes they are, but then so is everyone else.

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The RSF isn't an unfair encounter, it's simply a magnifying glass to show what the ATs are capable of.

[/ QUOTE ]Unfair or not it just highlights issues with this game and its balance(or lack there of). You can quite simply take 8 corruptors into that mission and have a reasonable chance to beat it. Can the same statment be made for any other AT?

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I'm not trying to troll, I sincerely would like to see something changed - mostly the click-nature of the inherent - to make what is clearly a team-oriented AT useful in that scenario. But the reality is that currently, on a good 8-man team, a dominator adds exactly nothing. The fact that people are seeing this same problem in RSF is no surprise to me. The AT needs a boost. Badly.

[/ QUOTE ]I understand your statements but you have to understand that if you took a hard honest look at each AT and see what each one brings to a mission like the RSF , you will find that some bring so much to it, they litterally have no need for any other AT for assistance.

The whole problem with this game in general is that some ATs are so good at everything that encounters need to be geared to provide a challenge for them, so what happens if the other ATs arnt as lucky? Everything is now geared for tankmages and all the mobs have tremendous abilitys to hit, to do damage and to take damage all because 1 AT has the ability to deal with all the contengencys the game throws at it.

Yes you can take a look at your AT that cant compete with the mobs geared for the tankmages ..or you can just take a look at the tankmages themselves breaking the curve for everyone else.

Aye, the triangle issue is like a dom fighting with 2 arms tied behind their back while the corruptor has a tag team partner with horseshoes in his boxing gloves ODing on steroids throwing groin punches to boot.

Only question on everyones mind is does the Ref (devs) think everyone should be fighting like the dom? Or does the Ref think that everyone should be fighting like Corr.

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I must say that after months of trying to point out overall team-PvE effectiveness issues relative to other AT's, I find this new topic almost funny.

Rather than admit doms may be underpowered, the new argument is that corruptors are overpowered.

[/ QUOTE ]Well most doms and devs agree that Doms need to be ajusted upwards and we have red names acknowledging that. You have only to just go back a few pages to see someone "admit doms may be underpowered".

However if you were to compare them to Corruptors &/or Controllers, even the suggested tweaks wont be enough, giving them full mez resist wont be enough and trippling or even giving them quad damage wont be enough because this game gives way too much benefit to debuffs and buffs while neutering holds and controls at the same time.

What is funny in a sick sad way is that Controllers have access to both and Doms have access to 1 for the most part. And since some people have been so nice as to draw a comparison between the Corruptors and Dominators then it bears to reason that the same criteria should be held to Corruptors vs other ATs

And not suprisingly the Corruptor comes out on top. So are the other ATs underpowered? Or is the Corruptor over powered? Only a Red name knows the answer for sure.

Have to say that Raz has a very good point concerning corruptors. Even the MMs that can come close to the sheer DPS that a Corruptor can crank out still have to content with the simple fact that they take more time to set up and when the pets are dead, there is no or very little dps..it becomes even more skewed tward favoring the corruptor ... again.

And I have to say 515, if there is a "relative weakness of corrs for soloing" I havent seen it. Flame Breath , Tarpatch, Fire Ball & Rain of Fire before lvl 12, if thats weak soloing then every AT should have it as "hard" as that.

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Compare that to the numerous debuffs that a debuffing corr such as /rad or /cold or /dark has, and you can see that /psi doms cannot compare to corrs for debuffing ability. Not to mention buffing, healing, rezzing, and nuking.

[/ QUOTE ]The only problem is that really while you compare just doms to debuffing corruptors, you also have to compare other ATs to corruptors too.

Compaire a Poison Master Mind debuff potential to a /rad corruptor and the corruptor wins.

Compare a Brutes damage to a Corruptors damage (especially after buffs and debuffs are in place)

Compare a Stalkers Burst Damage to an Ice Primary Burst Corruptors damage.

The truth of the matter is that Corruptors are are able to be competative with every AT City of Villains has to offer and in many cases surpass other ATs abilitys with a bit more safty to boot.

Doms get mez resist? Corruptors got that (Sonic or Traps secondary). Stalkers get criticals? Corruptors get Scourge. Masterminds get pets? Corruptors can have 3 (including shivan). Do Corruptors get Holds, Slows, Rezes, Intangability trap powers? Yes yes yes & yes.

Why get a brute when the AVs "to hit" has been floored, his damage is debuffed and his attacks come as often as once in a blue moon?

Why get a stalker when you can just get Ice Corruptors?

Why get a Mastermind when the best their secondary has to offer is Poison (which rad does better anyway) and the dark corruptor can field 3 pets (btw, does the Mu Guardian cast Volt Sentinal? if so thats 4).

Really, comparing Doms or any AT to Corruptors is about as flawed as comparing them to Controllers. Cors & Cons have all they need without having to look outside of their own AT. And if the devs design any content with those 2 ATs in mind, they are going to have to tune it to be substancially harder than it should be and with good reason. So whats a dev to do...redesign each encounter for 1 or 2 tankmage classes? Or just reevaluate the said tank mage classes?

So with as many abilitys as the example corruptor has, it goes a long way in explaining why the SF is as tough as it is. Assuming the Devs designed the SF around having multiple classes that fall into the Tank Mage syndrome (read corruptors) they really need to have a hard long look at what the corruptor class brings to the table as opposed to other classes.

I mean you pretty much are saying that they bring heals debuffs, damage, rez, controls,buffs & even pets now. No other Villain class can bring as much to the table as a corruptor if what you are saying is true.

Also have a 30 /kin corruptor if anyone needs to do some test later on, Double or triple magnitude confuses/holds could have some serious impact on future content

Wonder if you can reproduce the same results with 2 kins or if 4 would be nessesary?

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Oh cut the nonsense already. Of course there is more than DPS. No need to act all deep and worldly-wise.

[/ QUOTE ]People are simply having fun with a thread that could have been answered by the OP on his own. Just researching some of the Guides in the Tanker/Scrapper forums would have answered all of the questions and more.

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The OP's question is a fair one, and he never said it was the only way to look at things, and even took pains to indicate it wasn't.

[/ QUOTE ] The question , fair or not..was worded in such a way that it really was a backhand smack in the face to those that do pick anything other than EM.

What, is your head full of rocks? Why did you pick Stone melee? Dont you know that it isnt the best and most ub3r of all t3h s3ts? rofl!!!111!!1. U r teh nub brute *kicks the Stone or SuperStrength Brute off the team since they dont fulfill the idea of what an effective brute is*

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Why do some of you people have to pose?

[/ QUOTE ]May want to ask the OP, hes posing as if he knows something that others dont. And ironically its actually the posters that are filling in his gaps of knowledge (by thinking outside of the box as well as inside).

Why did the OP "pose" as if he was the one that needed convincing when he was the one whos knowledge was lacking?

Its a mystery!

You are absolulty correct

For some reason I read SM to be Shadow Melee

Mind you , candlestick brough up some great points as well. Knockback/down + a means of tagging someone with ranged is a pretty nice validation for a set in my eyes

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I am still not convinced as to why someone would choose SM over EM other then aesthetic reasons.

[/ QUOTE ] You may want to look at the attacks SM has.

1)Great Cone attack available early (Shadow maul)
2)A heal in its Attack line (Siphon Life)
3)An Endurance Recovery in its attack line (Dark Consumption)
4)Damage/Acc Buff-Enemy Debuff (Soul Drain)

Throw in the the fact that the attacks have a side-effect of debuffing enemy accuracy and the damage type is less resisted than smashing/lethal and you have a recipe for a very deadly villian. The rest of the powers can have some pretty nifty applications as well. Screw aesthetic reasons.

Honestly, for me Shadow maul alone is enough to validate the entire set, the rest just gravy

To be honest, each brute set is pretty darn good beyond aesthetic reasons, Stone & SS can smash mighty good, Em has decent disorients/ single target damage, SM is the swiss army knife of the set & Fire is the low resist issues with both a cone + AoE + dots to boot.

Thats just my take however

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With regard to powers I think that players should be able to engage in PvP without requiring a specific build

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Ok...consider me blow away by this post. You KNOW that the computers AI is vastly different from a real player. You KNOW that even pathing for computer AI is differnt from the what a player can accomplish. Heck you even know that the computers AI make them execute power in specific orders. You teleport, it knows to face the direction that you teleported too ect ect.

You mean to tell me that a build that knows exactly how to handle the computer AI & only have the powers and pool abilitys to handle those contigencys should beable to do the same for a human intelligence who tactics are only limited by its imagination?

Wow...just...wow

Dang it...why they gotta do this to me? Now i gotta level my E/E stalker some more

Wonder if "Kobold SB 4tehwin" is taken on my server