Stalk_obot_EU

i have another who wants in too, any chance we can do at 1? its not a problem if not

I have me fire/ta troller
ice/em tank
inv/ss tank
2 unknowns (not sure which alt they bringing
and 1 ma/regen scrapper

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You missed off one more AN other, we got a full team now [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

will do it with Blaze-Zen my lvl 50 Fire/TA controller

put down Ultruin, lvl 50 Inv/SS tank

Avar'ice ice/em tank

And I have a blaster coming too

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I was in Sirens the other night, confused a brute and he hit a stalker that was about to follow up on an AS [img]/uk/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

He was apologising profusely afterwards, I just lmao.

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that was funny [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Speaking as a Broadsword scrapper I say that acrobatics isnt worth it and all squishies should respec it out ASAP [img]/uk/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Give the AV's in RV can be spawned and taken down by just two teams, why not just ask who's interested and keep the time/day amongst yourselves rather than post here and beg to be attacked by PvP'ers?

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Not ANY two teams. I have been on three events that tried to take the AVs down, they didnt get a single one beaten and Im starting to get angry about it.

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Have taken the AVs down with 4 people and when they had the insane and poorly thought out regen buff

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Broadsword/super reflexes/body mastery scrapper with aid self,superspeed,fitness and combat jump [img]/uk/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Show me the build!!!!

Ive been playing with the build of one of these. Not primarily for PvP, but I dont doubt it would be PvP viable.

I can get Aid other / Aid Self in by 38, but I cannot get a travel power in before 49. Thats fine, i dont need one for PvE, but it does suck a little around Sirens on my Claws/SR. Sure im running as fast as unslotted fly, but with no vertical.

Anyway. Im finding Claws pretty good for PvP. Its commonly regarded as low damage, but with follow up and the quick recharge you can be out DPSing some of the more classic high damage sets, like BS. The lack of build up does make it more difficult, but like I say, im still finding it pretty good. Especially with super reflexes.

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There you go, clearly you dont need all the HOs or 6 slotted endurance but I would keep the same powers in a none HO build and in that order (post 30 that is, clearly you cant play to 26 with one attack [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Stryka
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Broad Sword
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Hack==> NucleExp(1) NucleExp(31) NucleExp(33) EndRdx(33) EndRdx(33) Rechg(34)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> CytosExp(1) CytosExp(3) CytosExp(3)
02) --> Focused Senses==> CytosExp(2) CytosExp(5) CytosExp(5)
04) --> Agile==> DefBuf(4) DefBuf(7) DefBuf(7)
06) --> Build Up==> MembrExp(6) MembrExp(11) MembrExp(31)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(9)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12) Jump(13) Jump(13) DefBuf(15) DefBuf(46)
14) --> Super Speed==> MicroExp(14) MicroExp(15)
16) --> Dodge==> DefBuf(16) DefBuf(17) DefBuf(17)
18) --> Hurdle==> Jump(18) Jump(19) Jump(19)
20) --> Quickness==> Run(20) Run(21) Run(21)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22) Heal(23) Heal(23)
24) --> Stamina==> EndMod(24) EndMod(25) EndMod(25) EndMod(27) EndMod(27) EndMod(31)
26) --> Disembowel==> NucleExp(26) NucleExp(34) NucleExp(34) EndRdx(36) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
28) --> Lucky==> DefBuf(28) DefBuf(29) DefBuf(29)
30) --> Parry==> DefBuf(30) DefBuf(42) DefBuf(42) NucleExp(43) NucleExp(45) NucleExp(46)
32) --> Head Splitter==> NucleExp(32) NucleExp(37) NucleExp(39) EndRdx(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
35) --> Evasion==> CytosExp(35) CytosExp(36) CytosExp(36)
38) --> Elude==> DefBuf(38) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(39) Rechg(42) Rechg(43) Rechg(43)
41) --> Stimulant==> EndRdx(41)
44) --> Aid Self==> Rechg(44) Rechg(45) IntRdx(45) IntRdx(46) Heal(48) Heal(48)
47) --> Focused Accuracy==> CytosExp(47) CytosExp(48) CytosExp(50)
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
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Blaze-Zen lvl 50 fire/ta troller
Stryka lvl 50 Broadsword/SR scrapper
Spyka lvl 50 Spines/regen scrapper

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a stalker stalks, its what the AT does best and as such stealth is vital, dull pain is nice but ultimately not game breaking. I dont ahve heals or defence (aside from mez) on mnay of my stalkers

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I find this interesting as I got destroyed on another thread for suggesting stealth was a must have..and your name was used in argument against me [img]/uk/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Not sure what context I would ahve been used in but being seen isnt a big problem for some stalker builds, the old adage of just because you can be seen doesnt mean you will be seen. Given the perception arms race we seem to ahve now I wouldnt make a stalker without stealth regardless of what role I am building it for.

still a bit too empty for my liking and the map blows IMO, nice lvl range tho

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Dont think it will go over as FotM, but my god it looks like a nasty 1 on 1 set.

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Its seriously a lot of fun, clearly its strengths are 1v1 and the autohits are great for def based sets and can stack slows through the slow resistances of sr/elec/ice. That said aside from ice arrow which is a bit too slow the rest of the attacks are nice and fast coupled with serious movement speed means its not as squishy in zonal pvp as i had feared. I made this one for fun more than anything else and Im having a blast with it [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I feel like a noob now, not having a whole team of people levelling characters for me [img]/uk/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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The US is much more hardcore than the EU which suits me as Im an all or nothing kinda guy, most people have more than one account, they also have some monster optimised toons at their disposal, a friends fire tank with 50ish HOs is like going back to i4 [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] We need to make xan run more raids on both servers [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

a stalker stalks, its what the AT does best and as such stealth is vital, dull pain is nice but ultimately not game breaking. I dont ahve heals or defence (aside from mez) on mnay of my stalkers

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took ya long enough to get this build done botteh [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Not really, since he didn't actually play it to 50 himself.

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actually I was fully involved in lvling this on my US spines/regen which is in pve spec and did my elec/elec at the same time. Why I have barely been on EU for the last couple of weeks [img]/uk/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

You heard it here first, the next pvp FOTM is going to be none other than Fire/TA!!

I just got my concept finished and transfered over and its a hoot, gives people very nasty suprises even in sirens where i have 0 damage. Entaglement arrow is awesome as is glue arrow (autohit) and oil slick arrow, ice arrow is a bit slow but a nice secondary single person hold to break acro or stack up over mez protect. The 2 -resistance arrows work well also.

All this with fire (which rocks no need for details on that) means that oil slick is igniting all the time.

It is seriously a lot of fun and once you start going through lockdown powers only TPers are getting away [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I recommend this to all [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Broadsword/super reflexes/body mastery scrapper with aid self,superspeed,fitness and combat jump [img]/uk/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

will bring my BS/SR to munch any opportunistic stalkers [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

gratz man

nuts i forgot and was MM smashing in RV on champion, ah well will ahve to chase coston to the ship next week [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

change 2 of the end reds on superspeed for run speed enhancements, never underestimate speed when hunting/running and the 7% slowdown of stealth can be a pain.

Otherwise the builds fine.

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Actually, I'm pretty sure it has to be a fact that Spines is the best Scrapper set. Perhaps even, overpowered.

[/ QUOTE ]Damn right it is, Spines/Regen is THE ultimate PvE scrapper....Unless you're teaming with few empaths/kins, in which case spines/DA wins.

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Happens to be the ultimate PvP Scrapper too, wonder when it's getting nerfed.

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Actually I would like to know WHY people think spines is best PvP scrapper? Mostly I ask, because spines are known they good AoE's. AoE attacks aren't so good agaist single targets.

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mainly being a ranged melee class, saves you from having to chase

I think best is subjective though, spines just seems easier for a lot of people to play

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yeah, im thinking of droping my patron pool and geting fear or something

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probably best idea, i am not taking patrons on any of my stalker/brute builds and only taking on my squishies for the armour.

They were supposed to be better to make up for not being able to change them, I have yet to see any reason why they are even close to the hero epics yet alone better

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Secondary is important in choosing, if you are going SR (which rocks) I would say take Kat from your choices as divine avalance augments SRs defence considerably for Melee.

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clearly but he asked which he should pick from MA or Kat

I disagree with kin, BS/SR is truely awesome and mine has 0 downtime even running FA. Spines is fine and is versatile, the range is great but doesnt have great burst damage and the secondary immob effect of impale is all but useless in post lvl 30 pvp. DM is an oddball set, the build up can be awesome or weak depending on whats around you but touch of fear is godly, the rooting is no worse than other sets, its just that shadow maul feels like an eternity as opposed to 3.1 seconds probably because it feels that you are missing 6 times not just once.

Secondary is important in choosing, if you are going SR (which rocks) I would say take Kat from your choices as divine avalance augments SRs defence considerably for Melee. MAs stuns and disorients rock though.

There are no bad scrapper sets, just depends on what you want from them.

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aid self doesn't only add survivability to squishies, it's add waaaay too much survivability to people with sets like ice armor, super reflexes, invulnurbility. I could never imagine the devs having the intention of this power being used so efficiently in pvp.

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Whoa, i never understood that adding a heal to sets would increase their survivability and will taking it away from these sets hurt them or squishies more? See, a totally unbalanced suggestion and you still are not taking a total overveiw, regardless of how i feel about the power with powerboost, tanks, scrappers or whoever, i can see clearly that it would be the squishies who get the wrong end of the stick. Seeing how you keep saying you can 2-3 shot scrappers what is it that you want? pvp over in a split second? going back to 1 hit kills? A pvp fight that lasts a couple of seconds isnt a fight, its boring.

As i repeatedly keep saying please try one of these non powerboosted sets without a built in self heal and then come back with your opinion and I will be very interested in listening. I am quite sure you can turn these more ignored sets into a very useful pvp tool.

besides which the devs position on the power has already been posted, they are not changing it.

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Im still not sure where you are coming from on this psydock, its established that powerboosted aid self is not the same as what everyone else gets, and certainly its not the same thing when used in conjunction with an ice tank with [censored] loads of HPs, a heal + HP boost AND hibernate.

Seriously why dont you make a alt like a none /em blaster, a corrupter or a dominator and see how you get on? Its the only way to be able to make the broad sweeping statement that you are doing, as it stands you are not in remote command of all the facts. Try it in a real context and tell me squishies like trollers, defenders, doms and corrupters whod DONT have a heal in their sets (yeah we all know you ahve an EMPATH troller)

I really have to say that this thread irks me, mainly because you are supposed to have a grasp on the mechanisms of the game and yet you seem oblivious to how vital aid self is to certain alts and is in no way overpowered for the majority. Im sure pvp dominators really could use dying more often than they do, this is why we barely see any as is. What is it that you want? City of tanks/scrappers/brutes?

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no but it's ridiculous having two scrappers chasing my blaster and can barley kill me because i can run away and heal such a great amount of hp and so often. I'm just saying it needs a looking at.

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and Im saying it doesnt, you can only use it to such good effect due to A LOT of other factors, speed, hasten, slotting, tactics and powerboost all contribute to the usefulness of the aforementioned power but not everyone is in the same spec, why should a having an optimised character mean you can make sweeping statements over characters without such advantages? Variation is limited in the zones as is. Do some arena matches and supress travel powers and see how overpowered you find things then when you cant escape from the crushing blows to be able to use your aid self, whats next, asking to nerf travel, hasten, increase attack rate enhancements?

Tell you what, go and make a pvp dominator and come back with the same statement and I will beleive you may have a point, fairs fair and if you have tried other aspects you have experience to make such sweeping remarks. Untill then I will continue to beleive you are talking out of your proverbial on this matter as your background of use (a fotm /em and an ice tank of all things) is farcical and unrepresentative of the playing majority.

perhaps get the all the players listed and shove them into balanced (AT wise) teams to support those in none pvp sgs, bit of a logisticial nightmare tho