Squez

Going to be hard to get a screenshot of this, but with the toga on a Huge body type, the rear end clips through while running. Especially noticeable when the rear end is a different color from the toga.

Mwuhahahaha!

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An evil colleague of mine forwarded me a news item that REO Speedwagon, Styx, and Journey are touring.

After recovering from the initial shock, I remembered this thread. Sadly, it has become inactive. So allow me, in the name of all things SpacemanBill, to introduce the Reunion Tour of Ten Tracks.

My list was a bit more pleasantly ecclectic this time:

1) Asahi w mini ikouyo (Birdman version) - SMAP
2) Sin un Amor - Trio los Panchos
3) Road Movie to Berlin - They Might Be Giants
4) Elvis vs JXL Radio Edit Remix - JXL
5) Ahaha - Dreams Come True
6) Swanky Street - the pillows
7) Links 2 3 4 - Rammstein
8) You Keep Me Hangin' On - Kim Wilde
9) Tomato Market Theme - Shenmue soundtrack
10) L'e-mail a des aile - Alizee

I blame Premium for that last one.

*hopes for a tomorrow session since I missed this while the big guy was on*

Is there any plan to do _something_ with Boomtown and Faultline? Please?

I would love to see Boomtown become a Cap au Diable-style city zone with big annoying buildings for the TPers, lots of NPC hustle and bustle, and yet keep its giant Babbage monster (like Cap). As it is, Boomtown is just...dumb. And empty.

Now Faultline...I'd love to see this zone get the Hollows or Croatoa treatment. I've done quite a bit of badging in there lately and I really like the giant fissures, the big dam, the whole ambiance--this would be a fun place to mish in, especially if the imaginary back part was opened. It would also fill the hazard zone-style leveling gap between the Hollows and Striga.

Yes, it's pie-hoping, but it can't hurt to ask, right?

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My grandparents used to drive around in this! Actually you would pull quite a few heads if you drove one today.

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Okay you got me there. Never saw one of those, but I don't doubt its fearsome head-pulling capabilities.


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You never experienced the magic of the Volkswagon thing ? You poor poor child.

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Child? CHILD?!? I may have been called an immature 16-year-old in-game but...uh, what were we talking about again?

Well, no one in my neck of the west Omaha suburbs was kind enough to purchase one. My mom had the sawed-off Volkswagon station wagon that somehow we got to Michigan and back, but it hardly compares to the thing.

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* You waited every Saturday to catch Gloop and Gleep (the formless, fearless wonders) do their thing with the rest of their "alleged" team. (C'mon--stone tank, 2 blasters, scrapper, scrapper lite and no h34lr?!? How did they survive?)


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Ok I remember Gloop and Gleep from the Herculoids, and I remember the Dragon thingy was Zok, but what was the name of the Rhino with the fireball shooting horn?

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They're all here.

Boy, I'd hate to not have wikipedia around. And yes, I was the nerd that would grab a World Book and soon have a pile of them around me as I jumped from "link" to "link" long before Al Gore even dreamed of the internet.

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And in that vein, you may be an old gamer if:

...you ever saw a lot of these critters driving around.
...your family had a woodpaneled station wagon (and it wasn't used) [heck, maybe this should be amended to just a station wagon]
...your neighborhood had one Delorean, before Back to the Future
...but really, what the heck was up with this. Those were hideous (even moreso than those horrid box-shaped cars on the road today).

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My grandparents used to drive around in this! Actually you would pull quite a few heads if you drove one today.

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Okay you got me there. Never saw one of those, but I don't doubt its fearsome head-pulling capabilities.

Gotta go back to the TV stuff, since I'm seeing a lot of it in the posts, and since the first one came up in a failed Sewer Trial this weekend:

* You are painfully, tragically aware that Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
* You waited every Saturday to catch Gloop and Gleep (the formless, fearless wonders) do their thing with the rest of their "alleged" team. (C'mon--stone tank, 2 blasters, scrapper, scrapper lite and no h34lr?!? How did they survive?)
* Somehow, you appreciated Batmite
* Though the mullet was to be feared, you knew Rick Springfield's Mission was Magic
* You still sing this song to yourself:

"Kings and queens
Knights on white horses
All these things mean nothing to me
Kings and queens
Living in castles
Will never be as happy as me."

Giving 10 points to anyone that gets the cartoon that was from.

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Well, what else can you do when that music's lost it's taste, but try another flavour?

I must be old, 'cause that look *still* screams cool to me.

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You know it is.

I highly encourage everyone to embrace their inner Ant today. (We so need a "Prince Charming" dance emote for I8...)

Ridicule is nothing to be scared of.

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. . . you know that the correct answer to, "What should Dirk do?"

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Why, he would wear white socks of course.

This would probably only make me a middle-aged gamer, but I do smile warmly any time one of my characters receives the Adamant badge, though for entirely different reasons than the devs intended.

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"Don't Drink, Don't Smoke", Squez...

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Why? Because of the subtle innuendos that might follow?

I guess I'm stuck unplugging the jukebox and doing myself a favor then. (And better put some wax on the tracks and slide on outta here...it's late)

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. . . you know that the correct answer to, "What should Dirk do?"

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Why, he would wear white socks of course.

This would probably only make me a middle-aged gamer, but I do smile warmly any time one of my characters receives the Adamant badge, though for entirely different reasons than the devs intended.

(And sheesh, forget to check the thread for a day or so and the thing explodes into fond memories of all kinds of things. We SO need Cuppa to add "Favorite Transformer" "Favorite Superfriend" and yes, sigh, "Favorite Doctor" to the voting)

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I knew I wouldn't get my five points...

But have you seen _the_ doctor in a Sinbad movie? (Golden Voyage in this case) My dad took me to all 3 of the Harryhausen Sinbads in the theater. Wasn't until years later I realized it was the doc. Tommy plays a great villain.

And once again, the old gamer thread comes back to haunt me...

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He was also in the crappy D&D movie that came out a few years ago.

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Thankfully, since I only understand AD&D 2.0, I never caught the movie, released far after that ruleset.

What's possibly more crappy is not playing, sitting here waiting to see if I have to pick up my daughter. Which of course gets me back to being an old gamer (it's really too easy). And in that vein, you may be an old gamer if:

...you ever saw a lot of these critters driving around.
...your family had a woodpaneled station wagon (and it wasn't used) [heck, maybe this should be amended to just a station wagon]
...your neighborhood had one Delorean, before Back to the Future
...but really, what the heck was up with this. Those were hideous (even moreso than those horrid box-shaped cars on the road today).

I knew I wouldn't get my five points...

But have you seen _the_ doctor in a Sinbad movie? (Golden Voyage in this case) My dad took me to all 3 of the Harryhausen Sinbads in the theater. Wasn't until years later I realized it was the doc. Tommy plays a great villain.

And once again, the old gamer thread comes back to haunt me...

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You ask in broadcast if someone can jaunt you to the gate.
5 pts to whoever remembers what jaunting is from!

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Well, I'd like my 5 points pls. My younger brother (6 yrs younger) was a huge fan of the Tomorrow People.

And as such, once again I know I'm an old gamer...

Heck, long long ago I could make the Dr. Who fans mad by implying that their show was just the Tomorrow People with a _little_ bit more budget... *ducks*

...you used to have a plastic record player (the kind with the lid that fastened in front). It could play 33s and 78s, but you mostly had 78s.

...you've seen Princess Knight Princess Knight in both its forms (and in Spanish)

...you wondered what life would be like after Nixon wasn't president anymore

...you ran home as fast as you could in 6th grade to catch Batman

...you thought Intellivision was da bomb, if anyone actually talked that way back then

...you remember the first time Steve Martin hosted Saturday Night Live, and the whole show was funny, not just (maybe) the first 20 minutes

...SWAT, the Mod Squad, Dragnet, and Hawaii 5-0 were quality prime-time programming, not just possible movie ideas.

...you pretty much figured no routine expedition is going to do to Marshall, Will, and Holly what it ended up doing to them (and its immediate corrolary, that Sleestak are the most scary thing ever)

...blue ardvaarks sounded a lot like Jackie Mason, yet red ants sounded vaguely like Dean Martin

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I figured it was just from trying to take a helicopter in. Never trust them too unpredictable.

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You have a point there--many of these Arachnos are wearing helments of various shapes and sizes that seem to defy transparency. It really can't help their mad chopper piloting skillz.

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When zoning in from COV I ended up someplace other then the villan base.

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This is a known bug. According to QA, it's related to having the shivan shard temp power (there might be other things that cause it, too, but this is what they've been able to reproduce).

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What several others have said. It is good to know it's a known problem, but please let QA know it has nothing to do with Shivan Shards. My stalker that had never been to BB on the first visit zoned in the forest. Of 4 zone-ins today, only one was at the base. Petitioned it. I hope they can figure it out. Oh, and this was on Triumph, rapidly becoming the mystery error server (no packs, no insps, no BB--what will be next?)

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Yes, they're a defender. They're running Trick Arrow. There is no healing arrow. Believe me, they want one so they can shoot teammates.

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They SO want to shoot certain teammates. With a healing arrow. Um, yeah, that's what they want to shoot them with...

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Do not try to herd the entire map, even though thats not possible anymore.

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Hey, just let me enjoy my 17 guys, okay? It's winter, and I need them to keep warm.

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Anchor = the target of a debuff which then affects stuff around it. As in "don't kill my anchor". The debuff goes when the anchor dies.


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Pretty sure the author meant to say, "the target of a debuff which then compels your teammates to kill it to the total disregard for their health/exp/life goals."

Gave it a whirl. Out of 934 tracks, I got:

1) More Than This - 10,000 Maniacs (no flames, please; I also have the "real" version)
2) Place in the Country - Adam Ant
3) Air on a G String - J.S. Bach
4) A Little Bit of Abuse - Kinks
5) Skirt - Chara (random JPop artist from a compilation)
6) Longing - X Japan
7) Okaa-san - Miyazaki Anime Themes
8) Kaze no Fantasia - Record of Lodoss War soundtrack
9) Koi no dance site - Morning Musume
10) Superman - Television's Greatest Hits

Can't argue with #10 being a great closer on this particular board.

Sadly, my current avatar, Tommy February6, was unable to overcome dreadful odds at making the list.

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You calling me out, Lothart? Can I say, "Zug Zugt" to you?

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It doesn't seem to violate the forum rules so feel free.

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Good one here, so let me say "swobu," too, but without a "t"

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But seriously, I for one won't stop suggesting it.

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Well, most wishes don't come true so I see no reason this one should be any different

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And realistically, I certainly know that Statesman has his own set of wishes. Personally, I hope they involve Bouncing Positron, but I suppose that's neither here nor there...

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Right now earning appears to be a bell curve. Prestige earning really kicks into gear around 18 or so and then falls off at 26 or so.

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I think it's early to make such conclusions. The system is a bit new.

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True enough. Observations I'm making are based on my stable of alts compared to my lvl 33 MC/FF troller since the new system started (was low 20s when I6 hit). I also check our SG roster frequently to see how close we are to getting that next megabuck$ item. My troller runs on Heroic. He has banked 85K in Prestige. Currently on minions he's pulling 12 infl/8 prest AFAIremember (worth about 100+ infl out of SG mode), about the same as my lower level people. Not sure what will happen when he hits 34 and no longer earns infl, but the trend doesn't look good. In comparison, though, my lvl 19 Blaster and Tanker each have 24K and haven't played that much since I6. Our highest scrapper has banked 100+K but has just hit 26. He's going to be watching to see if there's a curve as well (he runs on higher diff).

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"Fixing" prestige earning to be in line with the rest of in-game economics would seem to be in order...If that affects one's ability to get into a min/max uber SG, I can see that *maybe* being a problem.

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I can see it being a serious problem and, as far as I can tell, it's the only reason that jusitifes the current design. So the devs must have seen it as an important issue as well, otherwise why would they have designed the system this way?

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SG snobbery COULD be the reason the system is designed this way. However, the system could be designed this way because it is simply what they came up with based on the factors they envisioned. As Colin Powell says, though, "No plan survives contact with the enemy." Indeed, if the system worked well out of the box, States wouldn't be inclined to throw the small groups a bone since they would have had a bone to gnaw on when I6 went live.

I very much am a data person, however, and would be inclined to take more careful notes since I do log a lot of hours playing.

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Plus, if you're over level 34, why would they want you in the current system? Lowbies earn more Prestige than you do.

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I don't understand how that can be....There should be balancing factors already in place. Further investigation may reveal these balancing factors are imperfect and in need of adjusting but I think it's really soon to be calling for scrapping a core element of the design when we don't even have 3 months of experience in order to base our number on.

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Agreed that more data is needed. Not sure about the "core" part--it may just be "an" element of the design. If it is "core" the "bone" that small groups are thrown will reveal it.

Of course, if Statesman would love to jump in and give us a behind-the-scenes look at why/how the system was implemented, I'm sure I'm not the only user who'd enjoy seeing it.

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3) Fix the Prestige scaling. Higher level heroes should earn more Prestige; after all, they're more prestigious.


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I do so wish people would stop suggesting this...I care that the system is designed to make it equally advantageous to have members across all levels in your SG. The last thing I want is SGs saying "you can join when you reach the level cap" you'll generate more prestige then.

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You calling me out, Lothart? Can I say, "Zug Zugt" to you?

But seriously, I for one won't stop suggesting it. Right now earning appears to be a bell curve. Prestige earning really kicks into gear around 18 or so and then falls off at 26 or so. Given how incredibly expensive most things are, and given that influence and exp scale in proportion to level, the fall off of prestige doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

"Fixing" prestige earning to be in line with the rest of in-game economics would seem to be in order. It also addresses the thread since it helps all groups, especially the smaller ones.

If that affects one's ability to get into a min/max uber SG, I can see that *maybe* being a problem. I'd think that min/maxers would want to milk as much prestige from member leveling as possible; they'd also want to max their odds of SG members being online at any given moment at various levels to run mishes for the prestige bonus. Who knows, they may just double-box, run alts to the sweet spot and delete, or probably a lot of things I haven't thought of.

Plus, if you're over level 34, why would they want you in the current system? Lowbies earn more Prestige than you do.

From the anecdotal evidence in just this thread, there are a lot of smaller groups with different personalities out there. It shouldn't be that hard to form one that values having all levels around, or finding an established larger one to join that's under 75 members that also values having a good "spread."

My suggestions:

1) Just remove a zero from all prices. This helps everyone. Smaller groups get to enjoy the new game content faster; bigger groups get raiding faster. (Keep the high influence to prestige exchange, though. Just need to paradigm shift the Prestige economy which is inflated.)

2) Sell salvage for prestige. This is a "me too" suggestion, but makes a lot of sense. Make it through the City Rep for easy programming; make a brand new contact in a hard to reach location for more game related content (Striga-trainer-like location done like a higher level store so a mish has to be run first to unlock them) Designated contact area would probably also encourage people to go there to swap salvage and would help decrease the Atlas spam traffic.

3) Fix the Prestige scaling. Higher level heroes should earn more Prestige; after all, they're more prestigious.

4) Zoning out from base. Pick 2-5 zones (Galaxy, Atlas, KR, Steel, and Talos; at least KR and Steel). Add them to the exit menu. Instant functionality for small groups, and nice QOL for larger ones who will be using their transporters for more diverse transport options.

5) Let people who don't have CoV into the base. C'mon--somone with CoV had to build it; let everyone enter it. Don't allow them to place/craft anything, just let them in.

But I have to add my never-going-to-happen suggestion, too:

6) Crafted item: Map to the Perez Maze (placed in Control room; it uses X control). Your SG members' in-game map of Perez Park is replaced by one with a zoomable, detailed map of the forest maze. I cannot begin to tell you how much I want one.