Soul_System

Read your quote lol. You could consider it "SS" if you wish. Though IMO SS is more like Thor, Superman, and the Hulk. The type of stuff you see in Anime and that I'm discussing is more in line with Spiderman and Captain America.

Not only that but the "super strength" power set, when you look at it, really isn't that super strong compared to everything else. Street Justice is about to give it a run for it's money, Various melee's hit just as hard and launch just as much (with less reason). Speaking of less reason, Soaring Dragon launches enemies like haymaker lol. I understand it, if they made it true Super Strength a la Champions Online the flying enemies would actually interfere with game-play.


I do however understand your concerns about it looking silly. I think if done right though it would be one of those sets people would roll, if nothing else, because it looked cool though . With less thematic division than DP and it's Gun Fu. As far as the uppercut + pistols blast: think devil may cry with a fist instead of a sword.

So now your interpretation of my post is more valid than my actual feelings/intent about my post? That's ludicrous. What point is there if I can't even be right about my own intent in your eyes? Is it really THAT important for you to be right?

Talk about bias lol.


To be very very very very very very clear to you. I was talking about the big picture. Your still talking about the small stuff that has bee concretely noted. Of course, you obviously know what I mean better than I do so tell me, oh great master, what do I really mean that I am unaware of?

Look I can cut out what I feel like, even stopping mid sentence, as well. Or you could deal with the whole sentence and realize the other 3/4 of it changes what is says completely.

I mean really:

"Originally Posted by Soul_System View Post
Personally I think that stating the devs have never ever reversed a decision"

VS


"Personally I think that stating the devs have never ever reversed a decision, outside of a few things you basically then laid out as not really reversing, is kind of a silly thing to say in the long time frame of goodness knows how many changes."


Call me stupid but it almost seems like your posted reply is merit-less if you take into account the full thing rather than cherry pick the words you feel like addressing. Especially if you then don't take it into context to what it was replying too. I mean it's got built in redundancy on that one .

Well a power set is a slight De-railment of the thread, though the OP would highly desire it. But who said it had to be exclusively melee? Something like a 1-2-3 combo that sends an enemy flying with kb and then pumps a few rounds into them as they fly for good measure could be a "melee" attack. You have a good ole fashioned pistol whip, which is used real world lol. You could also be very short range (say 20 ft) with some attacks and still be forced to be in the thick of things. Look at whip attacks, 20-30 ft.

I mean really all you need to do is watch anime, read comic books, and be creative. Heck as a finisher you could uppercut someone, send them into the air, and unleash on them with your pistols. To keep in line with the very non-realistic comic book flair this would chain a kb on a delay after the KU so that the pistol barrage then sent them flying. See that I just came up with 3/4 attacks required on the spot that wouldn't be truly melee with your pistols as much as it is meleeing with your body and complimenting it with pistols.

While that's very helpful i was thinking more of an inventory wide version, excluding memorized recipes, and with numbers of salvage needed. Anyone that's sat down to craft multiple sets at once knows how frustrating both the salvage needed AND keeping tabs on overlapping salvage can be.

Whereas if I could use the current coding to grab a list from my inventory with numbers, and I could just go down the list, it would make the whole process 10 times faster.

As easy as it is to machine gun click the button, I don't see why this couldn't be added .

Been there done that, still doing that. Reason I ever brought it up is because I get hero tips done but not vig tips. To get my tips done is to ask everyone else to go out of their way. Long story short is vig tips get done mainly solo if at all. I keep an eye out for global calls for vig tips, but so far I've seen it called out a total of once since this thread started. The number of hero tips I've run with people is...quite alot.

Maybe this isn't an issue if you play on Freedom, but I play on Guardian. Same server I've been on since I came here 63 months ago lol. (consolidated my villains from pinnacle to guardian)



I also didn't ignore the effects of tips on my reputation. I came up with a way that fits in the current system and is thematically appropriate as to why you could gain vigilante rep on a hero mission. Not to mention that this thematic sense was drawn directly from both COH and comic book lore. Just because the mission is heroic doesn't mean everyone doing it is acting heroic.

If I took that kind of thought process though I'd play half the powersets I do :P. Why play X when Y is better? Because it fits the theme, it feels better, it looks better, etc. I'm not a min/maxer. Only reason I even complained is because it became commonplace for people to run hero missions and the rewards for doing so are exclusionary and divide the population. That in itself makes me scratch my head after they have done so very much to join the population via betraying, sking/mentoring improvements, and other things.

I have fun and I like being vigilante because my robots are cruelly logical, not soft and fuzzy tenderhearted boy scouts on a mission to promote peace, love, and babies. Making them make those heroic choices would fry their circuits. You might as well tell me to change my stories on my characters or you'll impede me in some way . Before GR these things were not possible and that's ok. You work with the framework you got. Current state imo there is no reason to segregate teaming for what amounts to "daylies" reward wise.

That's pretty presumptuous to say exactly how all/most heros feel. It also disagrees with alot of comic book lore. Even COH lore jousts with this in the relationship of Statesman and Manticore. Manticore btw is most certainly vigilante. He's killed, betrayed his friends to play double agent, and more or less shown to take dramatic risks if the payoff seems worth it. Risks a hero wouldn't take and statesman had a real issue with him killing Protean.

Look at the entire GR expansion. They said shades of grey and they meant it. Stop trying to paint everything as black and white. Hero's run the range from shining boyscout to passionate zealot who's 1 step away from vigilantism. Vigilante's run the range from shining upholder of justice through questionable methods to commonly questioned if they are doing it for themselves, vengeance, or blood lust. Apply the same thought process to Rogues and Villains. It's even possible for a villain to have certain scruples and do the right thing in a situation where a supposed hero falls to his own flaws and doesn't do the right thing. Does making a mistake mean they are a vigilante even though it goes against what they believe in? Does that single act of good mean that Villain is a hero? NO, alignment is about the long run. You can have soft spots, you can make mistakes or have flaws, but overall your going to take a reliable path. That path is your track record and what determines your alignment.

So, do you still think you can cut and dry label all alignments and exactly why they do their missions?




As a side point your mission points are moot. Pretty much everything we have to do to become a vigilante is something your arresting people for as a hero. Yet Vigilante's are allowed and teamable blue side. It already contradicts otherwise hero's would be arresting vigilante's on sight. The fact that they don't, even though they are in the morality missions, says 1 of 2 things. Either it's contradictory OR they allows vigilante's to run free intentionally and only make a show of arresting some of them. After all, my vigilantes have sacrificed numerous people and heroes, blown up innocents for the greater good, etc. Heck we even let rogue's over. They are known to have done all sorts of things including blackmail, kidnapping, bombing, innocents hurt, robbing banks, etc.

In fact Manticore actually blackmails you in 1 alignment mission to make you do his bidding. This shows that either he's not so hero-type or that the big guys really do know where you stand and let you run around anyways.

Just as long as you also make sure to keep in mind that all of us, definitely including me, can be wrong. I think even the devs have reversed a few decisions in the past.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I wouldn't make this an auto-use function so as not to run the code/process every time you hit the auction house. I'd make it a button you could hit and had to wait 30 seconds before you could hit again. This is to try and reduce server load for a "somewhat" complicated bit of code.

We already have the mechanics built in though. When you go to sell something it tells you if you need it in a recipe. This would just be building offa that. Essentially running that check on all salvage and recipes and then shooting you back the results. Provided you've sold/trashed the junk recipes it would be incredibly useful.

I've heard of up to 3 up at a time. That's pretty significant. The above reasoning combined with the fact that a mobile version would allow you to carry around that kind of regen is why I say this will not happen.

Ya, supposedly they balance for SO, but somehow I doubt they are completely blind to the changes outside of SO.

IE as long as they can be overlapped with enough recharge this isn't gonna happen.

Yet electricity DOES go out sometimes in urban areas with no recompense, as well as paid for services like internet. Only if it's an excessive time do they reimburse you unless you spend more time than its worth on the phone arguing it and being put on hold.

I can't imagine with how many people dislike the Gun-Fu that they wouldn't eventually do that lol.

Ok then lets try something new, I don't respond and you don't respond and the thread dies . If i respond it's your responsibility not to and vice versa, instead of your current life giving mantra. Otherwise the thread would only die upon a lock.

You can continue to be negative, I don't have to join in and try to contribute "squirrely wrath". (Foamy reference btw )