SinisterDirge

I offered it hoping you could relate to it, because it seems as though you dont understand the basic mechanics of this game.

Please explain how, when you create a toon, that you dont have the exact same choices available to you as everyone else. Perhaps you dont have a toon over 20, and therefore cannot play a H/Veat. Besides that possibility, you have the exact same choices as everyone else. No more, no less.

Take a sonic blaster and defender for instance. They are both blasting. The blaster only does maybe 30% more damage than the defender (vigilence 2.0 ftw!) and a little bit of -resist. The defender does 70% of the damage of the blaster, and stacks a whole bunch of -resist on the mob. Pair that with a primary like rad, and that mob won't even be hitting the defender half the time. For the same endurance.

How many blasters can solo a GM with less endurance usage than that defender? Different toons shine in different circumstances. How many scrappers can solo a GM with the same endurance cost? How many tanks?

Thats not equality, because you are comparing apples to oranges. Apples and oranges taste good, and are interchangeable as a snack. Thats balance.

You want something for nothing. You want more endurance when the dev's have already given you at least 16 ways to help you with your endurance woes.

Here is my quote. The important part has been resized so you actually read it.

*Boggles*

You want to give everyone more End. Please explain to me how that will balance your choice AT vrs another one... The blaster will STILL take down the mob using less endurance than the defender... so how is that equality? Now you are also willing to argue that blasters need more damage, so they will take down the mob using even LESS end than this defender of yours? You are confusing me. Please clarify.

Majority matters not. What he is looking for is a "signifigant percentage" Apparently 10% is signifigant. The other signifigant percentage of 90% can be out right ignored.

Would you be willing to trade weaker damage, or buffs, or debuffs, or recharge, or accuracy, or defence, or resistance, or mez protection for the reduced endurance? Not I.

Its SO's... Stamina is great, but SO's roxxors the boxxors.

No one has even remotely said that. You dont need to purple a build. You dont need to use sets. You dont need to franken slot. You dont need to use IO's at all. You dont need to use stamina, you dont need to use physical perfection. You dont need to use conserve power. You dont need to use temp powers. You dont need to use accolades. You dont need to use inspirations. You dont need to combine inspirations to get exactly the one you need. You dont need to use end reductions in your powers. You dont need to use powersets that have end managment powers in them. You dont need to rely on team mates with end recovery powers. You dont need to use brawl and your origin power. You dont need to pause for a second between attacks.

Tell you what though, sure helps if you do.

Wow... 16 ways to help end recovery, and I bet I missed a few.

There are no have nots in this game. There are alot of cant-be-bothered-to's. No one is stopping you from doing what you want to do. Petless MM? Sure! Blappers? Okay! Scrankers? Why the f not? A big green Encreddible Bulk? Sorry... not the way we roll.

What would you do to rebalance the game for more end? What would you give up Johnny?

There is nothing exclusive in this game. Any rewards I earn, you have the same ability to earn them as well. We log in in the same place. There is no City of Africa where you log in impoverished and malnourished. Everyone has access to everything. Everyone can do the same thing.

You have said a bit more than that mate. You said that if it isnt fun, they should change it. Alot of people here are saying, wait a sec, it is currently fun, we don't want to see them trivialize the game any more than it has been, we dont agree with you, and here is why _____. You respond back with "well, i dont think its fun standing in a mob at low lvls sucking wind, and dying because I have no end left. So we give you many options to deal with that. That isnt enough, you want the devs to make the game easier for you under the guise of altruism, doing it for the little guy.

The little guy has been inquisitive enough to post repeatedly here on these forums, asking where everyone is, how do they do this, that, and the other thing, but I have never seen them post about sucking end. You are not the Narod.

Really? There are no other brands of skates available to them, lighter pads, etc, that make the game easier for them and give them an edge over people who are not as well equiped? I guess everyone plays with the same equipment used in the NHL... Oh wait, they dont. The players in the NHL get all the best ****, because they have the skill to make enough money and have the best stuff given to them for free as long as they dont mind putting their face in a freaking deoderant ad.

No, you dont have to give up your pads and stick and face 20 guys. Do players not rest on the benches besides the intermissions? They all play 60 mins each game, more if it goes into overtime? Christ, can I be on your team?

Enter your user name, password, and log in. I do the same. We both sit at the steps in atlas, and have the same oportunities. You go your way, I will go mine. Guess the game really does come down to skill after all eh?

But it is not for everyone is it? It is your opinion. It aint about rosy and dandy, it is about game balance. What will you give up to have better end? Your answer seems to be "nothing" That is not balance, that is "I want the game to be easier."


If they are silent, how do you know what they are thinking, and why they quit? How about the vocal many that quit after ED, or GDN, or because they got bored from lack of content, or *gasp* lack of a challenge?

How about you make a mmo. Call it Vanilla Hero. Every person that logs on is allowed to create as many characters as they want, you can dress them up however you want, but everyones powers, and effects are all the same. No single toon is better in any situation than any other. The villians are defeated in the exact same way, every time, because they also, are exactly the same, only dressed different. Everyone has the same aoe's, there are no vet powers, because thats not fair to the new people who just started, and you dont want to make them feel uncomfortable. You also want people to stay, so you need to give them something.... maybe more costume options?

Sound good? Pretty sure I would want to roll toon after toon in your game...

Have you played any real life sports? Do you ***** about who you play checkers with, and refuse to play them again, because they beat you, and that is not fun?

Heres a life lesson for you bub. The best way to learn, and get better at something, is to play with/against players that are better than you. If you dont challenge yourself at all, you stagnate. Life does not come to you on a silver plate, and yet, alot of people still manage to have fun.

Endurance is fine as is. The low level game is fine as is. Show me one complaint from a first timer on the boards ******** about end.

Post up your build, and I will gladly roll that toon, and play it without standing in the middle of a mob huffing and puffing. You are not posting this crap for new people, you are asking for it for yourself.

You sacrifice nothing. You have a full attack chain, with enough accuracy to only miss from bad luck, and recharges in half the time. Plus costing much less endurence. How is that a sacrifice?

Of course, no one has 10% endurance. Everyone starts with 100% What you do with it, and how you spend it are up to you. Don't spend it all in one place.

I would love to hear though, what would you recommend doing to re-balance everything if your end reduction hopes make it into the game. What are you willing to give up, to make it worth it to you. Now try to convince everyone else to give it up as well.

From what I see here on the boards, new people comming to the game dont ask about endurence, or how to solve those woes. They ask why are the servers dead?, Why is there no one on the streets? What is the leetest toon I can build. Come to think of it, I dont think I've ever seen an introductory post complaining about end problems.

I am not Mind Over Matter but I would say its because it is the only power that is freaking recharged and that hellion has my last sliver of hp all over his fists.

What do you mean if thats why they are dying alot.? Of course thats why they are dying. Thats why everyone dies. You can't die without running out of HP.

Here is another tip for when you find yourself running out of end mid fight. Fight slower. Instead of blowing your load in the first 10 seconds of the fight, wait a second before you hit the next power. That also gives your other powers more time to recharge. Now, you wont have to stop mid-fight to recover end, and you wont need to stop to wait for any powers to rechage. No stopping required. Varry Nice!

I well understand the frustration of being able to unable to solo effectively. When I started this game, I built a pure support toon to help my regular team mates out for hazard zone hunting. Once they got to a lvl that they had stamina, and other ways to survive longer, they no longer needed my help, and considered my toon a xp leech. It was a hard lesson, but I learned it, and it didnt turn me off the game, just people. I never rolled another toon that I couldn't solo with.

That was before respec's, debt cap, temp powers, half mission debt, xp curve, endless brawl, IO's, mission bonus xp, inspiration combination, ED, free origin power, no debt before lvl 10, etc.

The Devs have made it very easy for a toon to level up to a point where you can slot SO's. Never mind stamina.

Nope. Haven't tried a petless mastermind either, or a "MAN" build. I do have a lvl 39 emp/psi that I can solo with thouigh.

Also, not directed to you personally Minotaur, but I always love when people say without this, or without that. Why wouldn't people use everything at their disposal? Hell, you don't even need vet powers anymore. You can't run a mish without 3 temp powers dropping on you these days...

Another bit on topic. Didn't the lvling curve adjustment effectively allow people to lvl faster while using less endurance? The game gets easier and easier. Do people really want the hellions to just give up as soon as the hero enters the mish? "Oh ****! its _____! Nevermind guys, lay down, playdead. Give him your xp's."

Tell me then, what limits do you think a toon should have? If endurance is fixed to your expectations, but you find yourself dying alot, would you like more hp? While standing in a spawn waiting for your powers to recharge, do you think about how much fun it would be if all your powers recharged instantly? I mean, you never see the Thing stop punching because his punch hasn't recharged...

Honestly, where do you think the devs should balance things?

Every character I have rolled is able to solo. Some faster/easier than others but they can all solo.

It looks like a signifigant percentage feel that things are fine.

Maybe you should go on another hiatus and come back when the fun to suck ratio works better for you. There have been plenty of times where I have needed to take a break from the game.

If I may recommend one more band aid though... I still forget about it on practically every toon I roll. When fighting, turn off sprint.

Wasn't trying to attack your point of view, just offering an alternate one as to why people like to solo. If I wanted to solo an emp, it would be paired with Illusion.

I agree with you, not every toon should excel at soloing, just like not every toon should be capable of taking down a pylon, or gm.

People forget that when the Dev's say every toon "can" solo, they definately don't mean at +4/8.

Soloability is a big draw for me in this game. I dont like to burdan a team I am on with constant afk's because my son has decided to feed the pet fish to the toaster/etc. Appeasing my wife is another one. If I can't drop the game in an instant without letting the team down, then I can't team. Beside's it is unfair to the team.

The sad thing about blasters, is they use all that endurance up on just damage, while having piddly secondary effects that wont help their survivabily at all.

qft

That was Frosticus.

Step 4) Blame alcohol, irritable bowel, or syphilis.
Step 5) Apologize.
Step 6) Rage/Troll.
Step 7) Quit the internets.
Step 8) Repeat.

Four more and its a twelve step program...

Knowing your past and how hot headed you are, you might want to head to the pvp forums to develop a thicker skin. You are going to need it when you are in the zones.

...really? He did not say lrn2play... You don't have to play at +1. You dont have to use IO's You can turn it back down to +0. If you still can't beat the widow/whatever, try to use a different aproach.

One piece of advice I give to all squishies, is don't stand infront of a boss that deals cones. Widows deal cones. Even if your sidekick is taking no aggro at all, he is going to be taking just as much damage as you. You might recommend to him to stand behind the boss and attack it.

If you are playing at +0/1, Then your original post where it says the mission is being run at +1 to the leader is misleading and easily confused.

...why am I not suprised. Oh well, not as disapointing as when I took Ice storm on my fire tank to slow the mobs down for my burn patch... that didnt work so well.