Sevenpenny

Originally Posted by Forbin_Project

Foresaken Death If I follow the instructions, but I get Satan's Henchmen if I reverse my initials.

Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane

SPOILERS!

I liked it, but I had a couple problems with it.

First: We're supposed to leave the movie thinking Superman's viewpoint is right, that lethal force as a solution is "ugly" and wrong.

Buuuuut... Superman really has no answer to the problem shown by Atomic Skull. Superman did things his way, locked up Skull and then he escaped and immediately killed more people until the Elite put him down.

Nowhere in Superman's speech at the end of the movie does he address this problem inherent in his viewpoint. He could have, and should have, acknowledged that sometimes lethal force is the only recourse, in cases like the Skull.

Manchester even brings it up in a roundabout way when threatens to break out instead of rotting in prison. Instead of confronting the problem there, Superman deflects the issue and goes off on a rant about dreams. Dreams are all well and good, but tell that to the families of the people who Atomic Skull turned to ash.

Second: It was all a trick! Superman didn't kill anyone! Superman robots etc! Buuuut...Superman destroyed several city blocks, caused millions in property damage, terrified innocent people...to make a point. Where's the "dignity, honor and justice" in that?

Third: Superman says the rest of the Elite were captured and are being stripped of their powers as they speak. So....why didn't they strip Atomic Skull of his powers? Instead of hooking him up to a generator which ultimately only helped him escape? Again, Superman could have acknowledged this as a way of dealing with repeat offenders who are not able to be rehabilitated. He should have also acknowledged that the system failed in the Skull's case and that people would be held accountable for the decision that let him kill more innocents.

It all comes back to the fact that Superman's view has major flaws too. He's not made to confront these flaws, acknowledge them or try to deal with them, and the end of the movie sweeps them under the rug and asks us to ignore them because "dreams are dandy".



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Originally Posted by Nericus

So will they be able to give Mel Gibson enough therapy for him to make his obligatory cameo?

Originally Posted by ebon3

I wonder what the cars will be like? I wonder if they will be using a Falcon? The current car is supercharged - although its appearence is subded compared to the original or the old 5.4 used in the Falcon.

Sigh...I bet the studio will try to make a green statement and all of the cars will be hybrids or full on electrics.

Originally Posted by Forevermore

Who said anything about acting?

Originally Posted by Dante

I think that was the one that made me adore Coulson. Such a great little short. And while we're on the subject of all things Coulson, I am pleased to have bought this t-shirt recently. Fans of Bruce Campbell may recognise the style.

Originally Posted by Forevermore

I'll just take solace in the fact that Charlize Theron is in it.

Originally Posted by Xzero45

You're just mad 'cause he's popular.

Originally Posted by DLancer

"But sir, how do you use a doughnut as a weapon?"

"Lets find out."