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Really? i could of sworn i saw it in mids, anyway he was talking about throwing sharks, i assumed he meant the damage instead of the hold.

Banes are that bad now with shatter armor and their regular shatter. of course to get shatter armor u can't get sharks.

An ele/therms goal is too drain their end before they can drain your health. It's a race with end drainers and everyone knows that. Why would i take half of their end and half of their health when i can take away all of their end in the same amount of time.

With perma HE, easy to obtain, espically with hasten, once they hit 0 end, the game is mine. With HE making their regen next to zero, and they have to end to heal or successfully run away, not to mention the VS and Mu pets taking away their health, killing them is not a problem.

When i came back to this game the first toon i made was my MA/regen, even though i only used my EM/SR stalker for the next year, my original plan was to get him to 50 and pvp with him.

MA does take skill, it's basically like a under powered katana and broadsword.

Regen takes skill as well, i used to disagree with this but i'll laugh at some of the regens i see, even pros who start with IH or something else that doesn't make much sense.

Regen can be the best when perfected, and even in the hands of a noob isn't that bad. Most just see them healing and call it a tie after a while, and again i think that's pathetic.

If anyone has played a regen in a duel, they look totally invincible until it gets to the point where they dont have any heals left to hit. Then they are very weak. I guess all those people who don't fight regens or give up halfway have never used one.

I read this somewhere before, i think in Tiger paws thread about DB/regen. But in a long drawn out battle, even timing 1-2 heals wrong will cost you the match. It's the easiest to make a mistake with. That's why i practice hitting my heals at the perfect time, when i get the most effciently, getting the full affect of the heal and getting it recharge fast.

If recon heals 500 and i have 2000 hp, i use it at 1500, or as close to it as i can.

If i use it at 1750 or 1250, which with any Burst, does happen, then my entire regen chain is messed and i won't be able to go as long as i could if i perfectly timed it.


^ yea sounds like a clueless man eh?

Inspirations disabled.

There's nothing you can do when your health is dropping and you have no way to heal.

I actually believe at one point i completly ran away to heal, but i was letting HE soak in, and i knew i could win if i needed too.

There's no opinion or thinking too it. Watch an AR/traps cor vs a thug/pain MM. There are such things as OP and horrible builds. And i've seen good players get destroyed by a noob using a thug/pain.

Also it's more like the steroid olympics, since anyone in the special shouldn't be able to beat those in the normal under normal circumstances.

If someone is uses steroids, i will also so we're on the same level.

I disabled them, not sure if he had them or tried to use them. No complants, although i'm known for never using inspirations.

I know he's been around for a long time, whooped a bunch of people and has a cool description. I think i tied with him on ryu.

Aside from the one i have myself, yes. I used to watch an amazing one when they first came out, they won a bunch of tournies and some of the best players at the time. Even killed some of the "ele/therm killers" people tried to make.

They had Mu Mastery.

Also i have dueled ele/therms, and i can tell you the most effective ones and some of the only ones to actually kill me were all Mu. Soul storm was somewhat effective but not enough.

I'm too tired to play ur little kid games mac, maybe some other time.

First off i love the quote, good thread that was.

Yea personally i don't like making people cry, angry, frustrated etc. Idk, maybe it's how i was raised, i don't get a laugh out of others feeling down. I perfer giving the baby in the stroller a lolly pop then taking it myself.

I didn't know u broke up duels rumble bunny....meh maybe i did but the fact is i basically switch to your side when it's warzone because BU EC followed by KoB and Fossilise is absolutely awesome. So i kinda let it slide i guess.

I basically unbind my Enter during duels so that never happenes.

Offensive use of phase, i support that.

Rawr! Nobody Stops the Juggernaut!

That's one of my few warzone pvpers. And one of the reasons i took it was so i didn't have the urge to flee combat like a coward. Espically because i'm untouchable after.

First off i'm not making anybody read this, and i wouldn't if i had the power too. hey if my messages make someone upset or frsutrated, please don't read them. I'm not here to insult anybody but merely show my view, because i know i'm not the only one who has it. Perhaps on this forums, as some people never came on or left. *cough* Zen shadow

I'm guessing metaphor, because i've never heard of powers have certain colours being blue or red. It doesn't make you weak, it just means that particular playstyle has some weakness to it. Not like Strength/weakness but has weak in it.

I'm proud to not touch Blue if all it means is i'm a coward.

Yea i fought different tanks that i actually couldn't kill.

Now, that was a tie, but since they were jumping out of my caltrops and aidselfing the entire match, i saw it as a win. I had them on the defense the entire time. And i maximize my scrappers damage so if i couldn't, a lot of other couldn't.

The tanks might have pushed me to reconstruction and MoG, but that's it. Not even DP. I get them to go on the defensive side and let my regen heal for me.

If i was a tank and could do nothing but survive every fight, i would delete that tank, or get really good end and proc attacks so i could deal some decent damage.

Even on my main, if someone is chasing me and i'm about to die, i don't care if i *could* kite and survive. The fact is they are a better player and possibly a better toon.

The score may say i won, i lost, or i tied....but really all i care about is if i know the game better then them, that i have more experience. I've actually beat some players i still today consider better then myself, and the reason is they didn't get some lucky pvp recipes to sell to make their toons, or they have too many to comepltly focus on one for dueling.



I do play a regen and come back fast, and my fire brute can HF/aidself to near full health as soon as he comes in, so i wouldn't know any slower.

If my teammate is dieing under the stage i can get there, by or before, the 30 second timer goes off with full hp and end. Sometimes i use inspirations if i have them, since they always pile up anyway. Others i run there without toggles to get my end and turn them all around 27 seconds. Of course my main has SS and CJ/hurdle, and i like to train by jumping around the environment, so i'm kinda used to getting places fast and dodgeing things that may slow me down.




And to the last point, yea if i have their health steady at about half the entire match, they have to kite to live and my HP has been full the entire match, i should go lay in rest for them? Nah nah, it obvious who the better player or better character is in that situation.

Kinda like Mac and his bunny scrapper fighting vinces cold/dark cor lol

So your saying there shouldn't be any choice in the matter?

If zones were purely dueling, warzone people would find a way around it or select the option in arena.

If i find i get more of a challenge and overall have more fun dueling someone, i'm going to duel instead of warzone when the chance arises.

Call me crazy but i don't always play the game as the rules state, but rather try to have fun.

I'm used to dueling friends, hell i'm pretty friendly with everyone i've ever dueled. I don't mind giving them a recipe if it costs me nothing. I know if i was in their situation i would hope they were nice enough to fight to the death if they knew there was no chance of them winning.

If i didn't say it here, it's somewhere else. Phase is perfectly fine as an offesnive power....like waiting for demonic or unstoppable to wear off. Even waiting for something like MoG or BU to wear off is smart too. But if you need to hit it because your going to lose, it's not going to help you too win.

I'm not afraid of dieing. If anything your respected less for being a coward for never accepting death.

Hibernate is completly different because, when slotted correctly, you can get to high health quickly before they can heal.

There was a fight with an ice/SS tank, and everytime she was about to die used hibernate. The fight went on and on and she had no chance of winning at all. Yep, i memorized the global and name and put a negative note of em. I don't respect that kind of fighting at all. It was not die and stay a tie, or die and let me get some rep and possibly a recipe.
Heck i've even gone longer and risked it not hitting phase on my stalker and got the kill because of it.

Yea i guess your not aware of a brutes or scrappers damage. Espically when they dont need to run for their life to heal as often.

Personally my brute KoBs the target so stalkers can jump in, not taunt and run.

You can completly focus on damage if you want....but i choose to increase what i'm already effective at.

I can drain someones end faster then their health. Damage isn't a problem after that because they can't run, attack or heal. And their resistences are off. Basically i've won at that point unless a end proc goes off and they hit MoG.

HE and short circuit won't drain their end fast enough for you to keep living.

The Mu pet, the VS pet, HE, short circuit AND power sink is. I can completly drain a bar with that in a few seconds. And i can use demonic to survive the minute when they use geas (atleast that was the plan, too lazy to get demonic. ele/therm takes little skill as it is against normal builds)

I don't think standing there throwing sharks is a good plan. It roots you, so you get hit for more then you dealed with it.

I have an ele/therm and i've seen both ways, i've even seen soul storm and power boost. I'm sticking to Mu to get another short circuit that gives me end.

I thought i was on ignore? I liked it better that way

Beating a good player behind anything is hard, espically an easy button like a Thug/Pain MM.

That's why i created my ele/therm. To balance.

When an easy-button thinks he's special, i break out mine, so we can truely see whos better....because they usually don't wanna switch for some stupid reason.

The battle was hard, espically because heal decay was on, and thugs do a ton of damage even at ranged. And even if i got his pets end low, which i could only do in melee range, the bruiser with painbringer would KoB me. I'm just lucky the old build had 2 KB IOs stuck somewhere in it.

I'd use inspirations if i needed them, i'm not that weak

Mu. You need to focus on your end drain, not your damage. The Mu pet actually does good damage when forged anyway.

Conserve power and power sink help anything they may end drain you, and as i understand it most ele/therms have some sort of end problem themselves without these.