Saltyhero13

lol...makes sense....its a full time job keeping up with undocumented changes..

You are right. The debuff is is what I am thinking is summoned by a pet. I assumed the sleep was too. Thanks for clearing that up.

Even if the proc fired, isn't the expect behavior that the Static Field pseudo pet would placate the mob vice the summoner placating the mob? or is it expected that it will function similar to the proc when slotted in Poison Gas Arrow (which I believe also summons some type of pseudo pet) or other AoE sleeps?

Herc pretty much sums up how I feel. If you have the money go for it. /Storm can really benefit from +recovery IOs in addition to the -kb Herc mentioned. If you don't have the moola save your money for your final build.

Either way I wouldn't focus on IO sets until you plan out a full 50 build. I say this mainly because it is easy to exceed "the rule of five" by over slotting particular set bonuses without having a "final" build thought out.

ROFLMAO....the force is strong in this one....not so much Thermal as much as Rad. Rad is a very good set.

As for your wizard concept I would recommend Ill/TA/Fire if Ill/Storm/Fire doesn't work out for you

First thanks for posting all the numbers Peacemoon.

In a sense I am glad that this set wasn't turned into a Fire clone and I can live with the removal of the damage component from Stunning Aura. The tick rate was a bit ridiculous.

As it stands the set favors Dominators. I think a quick fix to the set to bring it up to speed for Controllers is to take a look at rearranging the order of powers. I would be happy if they increased the damage on Jolting Chains some to help Controllers out in the lower levels who don't have access to Assault Secondaries.

Bringing Synaptic Overload in earlier can help. Lets face it, Synaptic Overload is far from being a Seeds of Confusion especially considering how slow it jumps and its ability to jump if the mob is spread out diminishes rapidly. I still dont see how this power rates to be a Tier 8 power compared to other sets Tier 8 powers (Yes I have looked at the sets side by side for a holistic comparison). The problem is if Synaptic Overload is moved up nothing else in the set is a suitable Tier 8 IMO.

Using your taxonomy I would classify Electric more akin to Ice mainly for the reason that -recovery and -end drain together behave more like slows IMO. Sapping basically allows the mobs to attack initially but can considerably reduce the rate of attack or even flat out halt attacks after the alpha.

I just tested this on the current Beta build. You can have multiple static fields out at the same time.

For sapping I have been placing Static Field + Chaining Fences + entering melee with Conductive Aura on. Depending on how spread out they are determines how effective the sapping will be. Placing two Static Fields helps as well.

This stood out for me as well, but when I reread it I realized he wasn't comparing it to Earth in terms of control.

Earth is definitely in my top two for control. I agree with Oedipus, if I am reading his post correctly, that Electric is at the bottom of the heap in terms of damage.

I have seen a few Spines/DA builds soft-capped to S/L that IMO didn't sacrifice much to get there. I think if you go for any kind of defense, ~35% or above is a good feasible number to aim for without gimping a build.

Looks like we have a "swimmer"!!

Good call, but no worries; the NDA was lifted.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=232903

Isn't Cold Domination's debuffs numerically superior to Rad by a rough order of magnitude of two?

This is true it has not changed, but in this case.....

....what he said.

You are basically summoning two pseudo pets and a pet which the game sees as three different sources. Works great on hardened targets. I think it still bypasses -res debuff resistances too.

I concur with Local's and Carnifax's comments, especially the order in which you picked some key powers. I wanted to add a few more recommendations to address your questions.

Overall you single target powers seem underslotted for accuracy. Versus higher level foes you will find that you will miss more often. I recommend looking at adding some accuracy to your ST powers

If and when you do go for IO sets I would recommend focusing on sets with recharge bonuses. This will give you an increased availability of PA and OSA , ILL/TA's best powers IMO.

If you are interested feel free to ask for build examples if it helps you understand IO set slotting strategies.

If this is the case I recommend slotting accuracy in place of the hold SOs. You want the power to hit in time of need while having it available as often as possible.

Hope that helps! GL with your ILL/TA troller!

Yes. You only need one application.

Preceding Roots with Freezing Rain also helps if you don't have enough accuracy.

Yes! I am so glad you retried it with good results!

Sidenote: I just retested Roots sans Creepers on Warwolves and it does indeed place a -KB effect. Tornado does not fling them everywhere. The only problem is that they still run around like ADD kids on a sugar high at the peak of a speed trip.

I must be playing a significant amount of AE these days.

With regards to pre-made dev content, outside of the "Roman" Traitors, I never found the ~10sec duration defense debuffs to be as much of a problem as people make them out to be. Most require a to hit check to take effect anyway.

In cases where debuffs are a problem and your set has no DDR, purple "skittles" are the solution.

Its quite possible. They still run around like madmen from the Tornado afraid effect. Definitely worth testing.

I do know it works consistently when used in conjunction with a hold (the plant holds have no -kb) but that is expected.

I was fighting Warwolves last night on the A Hero's Hero arc and noticed that some of them would not get flung by Tornado. It could very well be be that one application of Roots alone may not suffice requiring several applications. I had Creepers out the whole time and this could be skewing results. It also appeared that Creepers is capable of immobilizing them completely when it summons the creeper immobilize portion of the power. I don't know if this is a bug or if Creepers has a very high magnitude on its immobilization effect. I don't know if creepers has -kb in it though.

I'll retest this some more when I'm done with the arc.

I agree that defense on a resistance based set goes a long way, DDR or not.

Not all enemy groups have defense debuffing attacks, but in the rare cases they do, a purple inspiration is my remedy for cascading defense failure as well.

On my Spines/Dark Armor I have noticed a significant increase in survivability by simply investing in IO set S/L defense bonuses. Not only has my survivability gone up but my endurance usage has gone down. I no longer rely on Dark Regen as often to stay alive. Willpower is great example of how effective this type of layered mitigation really is.

To the OP, S/L defense is a great investment to just about any toon lacking native defensive capabilities. Well worth it as long as you don't sacrifice your inherent abilities through under-slotting.

Shout of Command only negates the immobilization effect of Roots, the -KB still applies.

Warwolves work in a similar fashion. You can't immobilize them with Roots but the -KB still takes effect where Tornado wont scatter them.

Sounds like you either hit the target cap or you have low accuracy in Roots. To avoid this type of scatter, at least when I'm farming +*/x8, I typically wont use Tornado until I have two applications of Roots on the spawn.

A Plant/Storm/xxx can be slot the Achilles Heel Proc in Freezing Rain, Fly Trap, and Tornado. This can potentially give you a +60% Damage Boost if all three fire.

Its from the movie Slingblade. The main character is "slow" or "touched" if you know what I mean. Any way all these smart people are standing around this lawnmower trying to figure out why it doesn't work.

Bill Cox: [lawnmower won't start] Karl, see if you can figure out what's wrong with this. It won't crank up and everything seems to be put together right.
Karl: It ain't got no gas in it.

When you told us you were triple boxing it I felt like Karl just told me "It ain't got no gas in it.". It was so obvious that I didn't see it

Edit: Before you get offended: No I wasn't calling you retarded.