SaintJohnNB

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Even the Vets coming out into the sunlight from running AE since its inception are Rusty! We were guilty as well, my SG has alot of Creative talent within its member Ranks and we have been running AE for a bit. Just got back to running regular missions again "quite different" You have to "create a team..can't just run any levels with one or two "Uber" toons and plow through everything in your path (our standard runs are always at Invince) lol. You have to play smart.. Only took us a mob or two to get into a rythem but yeah. Some of these n00bs have no clue I have seen people on toons that have absolutely no clue how to play them. And i asked them when did you start the game (no vet rewards) " Oh three weeks ago" And I say "cool well grats on hitting 50 so quickly" Lol

I actually went out of my SG comfort Zone last week just to see what was out there lol. P.U.G. 'ing (Pick Up Group) and wow It was nuts. running High 30's low 40's I just shut up and went on for the ride lol. Wow they had to totally replace the team after every painfull gruelling mission except the leader and his bud of course. I hung around for about 5 missions .. its all I could take lol. Wipe after wipe after wipe lol. It seemd All I was doing was finishing mobs and waiting for people to return from hospital lol. And the kicker was when the leader was bragging about 6 slotting his main AT power with all damage lol Anyone care for diminishing returns.
Not only do they not know how to play (MA babies) they know nothing of building toons either. Like breeds like I suppose.

In answer to your question I am inclined to say yes.
And in agreement with the second post. IT makes us look like... ... Well, Super Heroes lol
Lots of teaching to do now lol

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I have been in-game on and off (several accounts even) since Beta... Every time I take a vacation from the game I come back to a 'learning' experience. I still have loads to learn, but try to be effective for the teams I play on based upon the AT I am playing at the time!

I have learned loads of information (but have only recently started posting... just me, being me I guess) from the boards/forums and from many of the great players I have had the pleasure of teaming with!

There have been many posts and many conversations regarding this same topic... and depending on which side of the fence you stand on, they answers seam to vary.

Many of the more experienced and/or seasoned and knowledgable players truly dislike what AE has allowed the new player base to become (High leveled toons with no concept of their chatacter in almost any regards, from how to slot enhancements to what powers are needed/wanted or how to use any/many of them)...

The Farmers/PLers on the other hand grief and say it's their right to farm/PL and use the new toons (since many knowledgable ones wont step near a farm mission) to pad the mobs... The farmers/PLers say it's up to the experienced player to TEACH the new players... Though I personally believe they created the mess, they should clean it up.

I've been on many teams in the past few months where the toons don't know how to travel to the mission zone, can't navigate via the map and certainly are surprised how much 'harder' the baddies are in REAL missions compared to the mind numbing throb of many of the boss farms.

Little if anything can be done until NCSoft decides what AE is going to be, how it should be accessed and many other details. Until then we can encourage new players to depart AE as soon as possible, stay clear of it until they learn some of the basics or never again gaze upon it's towering buildings...

There is no correct answer... just be patient and those that want to learn will learn, will seek assistance and actually listen... Though I have ran into way too many new players that 'know it all' already and they will be happy to tell you they do... As soon as they figure out when to buy those shiny level 30 training enhancements!

GL in the quest... be patient and enjoy the game as you know it to be!

As I chime in with my two cents...

I seldom post and am usually content in not creating waves... but enough is enough. I am HIGHLY outspoken in AP regarding AE farms and farming. I have been reported for griefing farmers enough times I figure my time is coming soon to have my account revoked... That said...

I have been known to stand in AE (especially in AP on Liberty) and openly tell ppl I am looking for a farm team and that I have every intent to report the arc as a farm. Yes, I get a lot of grief from the farmers and AE babies for my actions... but I find it funny that they get to defend their position to play the game they want to play and broadcast farms, but yet I should not get to play the game my way and report them for using content that defies the EULA...

I think one of the biggest issues is auto SK... take that away and many of the issues of AE may also go away... When you have 7 lvl 9's seeking a lvl 50 to unlock the mission that is not a good thing. Yes, go back to the old fashioned farming where to have to have a SK for EACH and EVERY character if you do not fall into the correct lvl range for that mission.

I love the idea that you have to unlock the AE content... The Devs can write a tutorial that you MUST complete to access AE. Write a short arc about the game and make it the first mission you can access in AE... If you don't complete the ARC, then you don't get access. As the arc progresses, so does your avilability to content in AE... This in NOT rocket science. The community as a whole has come up with many good ideas to solve the problem, now it's up to the Dev's to act upon them or do SOMETHING...

Again, just my two cents.. I now return you to your regularly schedule mission!

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Ok, I have work to be done!

I've not yet read anything in regards to SGs or VGs...

As the leader of 2 Blue Side and 1 Red Side SG/VG base(s) it will be interesting to say the least as to the issues this could cause...

But hey, it's part of the learning curve we've come to love and enjoy that is CoX

Dream Weaverz tries to host a CC on Liberty every Wednesday at 8:00p eastern... Our SG usually has several judges present and that helps eliminate the 'personal preference' aspect of choosing a costume/winner.

We usually list 4-5 toons in team chat that 'we like' and then debate the merits to reduce the number to 3 and decide from there who 'we think' has the most creative costume...

There is no rhyme or reason to many of the costumes we've seen and there are certainly a large number of random costumes out there.

It's all subjective, but we try to have several judges looking and choosing so it's not just one persons likes or dislikes...

Had a great time on Positron TF... had to lg for a bit for a RL situation and couldn't get back on a team... but hey, I figure that is a success if there is no room...

Dream Weaverz did not represent well as we already had other plans and many took advantage of them... But overall everyone seemed to have a great time...

We run TF's every weekeend if any want to check the calendar on our site... Primarily the main 6 but we also toss in Moon, Hess, Katie and when we can ITF... Let us know if you'd like to come along!

I wanted to say thanks to the team leaders and for Disco getting all the teams coordinated for Positron...

Great Job All!...

Thanks again!
KEWL

Sounds like a GREAT idea... I'll post it on our SG website too..
Count (at least some members from) Dream Weaverz in!

You can contact me in-game at @Saint JohnNB if there is anything I can do to assist.

Thanks for getting this going and I see we live very close to each other... EEEEKS!

Supergroup Name:
Dream Weaverz SG Liberty
Peacekeepers of Paragon SG Liberty
Dream Wreckerz VG Liberty

Website: www.DreamWeaverz.info

Leader or Recruiting Officers:
@DRAYGOS
@DaSlaya
@Bubbler
@Blujoules
@Redwuff

or any member can direct you to us... just ask!

Preferred Method of contact: You can contact us in-game at any of the above leaders, or through our website!

Super Group Description:
Dream Weaverz is not a new SG, but we've been out of the mainstream building our base and making sure we have everything a new or experienced player may want or need! We also operate Peacekeepers of Paragon SG and Dream Wreckerz VG on Liberty as well...

Dream Weaverz is interested in mature players looking to enjoy all CoH has to offer. We stress SG team play when possible, we offer daily/weekly SG activities (see calendar on our site), Teleporters to all CoH zones, Medical bay, (2) Fully Stocked workshops and loads more.

Our basic guidelines:
Fun - The most important thing is to enjoy the game. Make sure you ask a member to join you or ask to join other members... It's not impossible to find a team... You just have to ask.

Respect – Please respect your fellow members... Regardless of age, race, sex or nationality. Regardless of level of experience or level of character. We all work together to make each other better!

Language – The group will not accept excessive, inappropriate language or racial or religious or sexual nature in Supergroup chat or on the SG forums.

Supergroup Forums - We've added a forums page and looking forward to making this part of our SG more active and productive.

New Members – We have a VERY LOW prestige earned requirement to meet your first promomtion...

Please see our website (above) to read all our guidelines and much other needed SG related information.