Rikti

I know Moe at least was on that team, was Ownage on the one that lost then? Idk there were two teams but anyway let's not pretend like test players are pvp'ing to rep a server they most likely don't care about other than as a base for PLing things.

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Are you referring to when OS won the PvPEC Super Mixed Pentad? That was a pretty exciting match!

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Yes I am. OS did Triumph proud. And shut up the Freedum folks on how elite they were on PvP.

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Lol most of those OS members weren't from Triumph.

Just real quick, as I already have a few storm 50s and am now leveling up a Mind/Storm, but I really still don't get the post i12 pvp, can someone explain how storm strategies have changed in regards to picking up/slotting/using the following powers: Snow Storm, Steamy Mist, Tornado (I know slows are neutered and offensive toggles are meh and mist doesn't really do much with global resists around)

I understand Hurricane/Freezing Rain/Lightning Storm are pretty much the same tactics except that hurricane gets detoggled all the time and lightning storm takes a little more strategy to use, but the other powers I'm not sure how to use now or if I should even be getting all of them.

I will primarily use these for arena I think.

Also, so I don't have to make another thread, specifically for the Mind/Storm, how is confuse now?

Ya I had a server full of 50s and i13 wrecked the majority of them so I had to delete some and make more. Don't see how that's my fault.

Eps want me to grief it for u?

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I can honestly say, that after 22 toons to 50, many others past 35, that no matter what kind of PvE they introduce, will be boring.

Once i got into PvP, once someone learns that, and truely enjoys it, PvE becomes a mindless grind. Obtw, its still quiet possible to get 50s in stupidly quick times, the thing is tho, as long as no one says anything, the devs wont find it.

[My new fastest time is 7 hours, 14 min.] Doubt the devs can figure it out anyways. :P

(lol altoholic is posting here, lol)

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Um I thought a few pages ago you said it was an exploit and that there was absolutely no risk in fighting 17 level 54 lieuts with less-than-l33t powerset choices. W/e. TBH I agree Mitos are exploits but I'm still going to use them if I get the chance because I, like many others, am completely repulsed by the thought of taking longer than necessary to do my least favorite part of the game (the non-50 part).

Farming helps the game in so many ways. The market would absolutely SUCK if farming was discouraged more with bannings and deletions, for instance.

Sorry, as far as the "affects us all" thing I was talking more about the argument that AE breeds a noob population that is hard to team with or something. I completely agree it brings about nerfs but usually just to the big exploits, which I thought would be a good thing for you guys.

This "it affects us all" thing is [censored]. If you really want to avoid the effects of a noob population, its very easy - get some damn friends.

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What i don't understand is..they say it is exploit however it was their mistake why should we get punished, besides it was all known "feature" so devs can't just bann few and say "oh hey this person gained way too much compared to other players" since actually everyone could run this rikti farms or w/e so the point to say certain player had way too much advantage compared to other players is just sry dumb.

On dbl xp we got on normal nemesis farm in maybe like 1 day person to 50 - wanna delete all this toons too from all past issues? GL!

What devs don't realize is you can't force players to play same content over and over again. Yes we have AE, so what? It is still same map, same NPCs, same powersets. After grinding at least 10 toons to 50 i got pretty much bored of game content :/

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I think they should at least be required to make a very public announcement (perhaps one of those motd spams they do for updates) saying that from the point they make the announcement on, using the exploit will result in bans/deletions. That way they aren't telling us the fastest we can level toons without getting banned, but we still get a [censored] warning, and then they don't have to look like such terrible devs (too late for that actually..)

Yea I am now getting toons 1-50 in about 8 hours without double xp so, I'm basically just getting them to 49 then leaving them on overnight I think. Should do the trick.

Well the only way I feel truly at minimal risk against 17 angry lieuts is if I'm defense capped, and in that case you're not going to get much resistance from most of this game's pve anyway. I still have trouble in some farms with fire/kin or spines/dark (trouble meaning there's plenty of chances for me to die while doing it).

Lol obviously not but you can't possibly claim that an aggro cap of lieutenants is easier (or just not harder) than our games normal pve.

One thing I really find funny is how people are calling aggro caps of level 54 lieuts "easy content" with "minimal risk" yet having 8 people facing mobs of only +1s or +2s never qualifies for those terms at all. Such hypocrisy, I think people have just forgotten how to use that terminology.

Please explain how fighting a lot of lieuts is an exploit. I can see how loading up on comm officers or mending mitos could be called an exploit, but plain ole lieuts? That just sounds like a childish whine to me.

It's possible to go 1-30ish in 1 AE still, try harder.

If you need +tohit or -def in the first place but don't have it, I would think Poisonous Ray wouldn't help that much since it probably would have trouble hitting too right? Idk, I = noob.

So if you don't have crazy money for PvP IOs for some +range, would nova form be near as good? Cuz I may make a PB and with my typical 100-300 mil IO builds, I feel like a human may be better.

Snorin now that I've upgraded to a Toys R Us brand, would you like to purchase my Fisher Price computer? It can last an entire 5 minutes without DC'ing, and can count to 3.

Mmk I made an Earth/Nrg this afternoon and got it to 40, but I'm a little puzzled about what to get from the primary? Besides the hold and the pet of course.

Grav/Elec, Mind/Elec, or Earth/Eng?

I get that you can get away with no aim/bu on an earth/ea, but how does that make the build better than mind/elec or fire/elec or w/e - don't the latter still do better damage? I really have no idea but would like to make a dom.

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No drops at all? If that's true than I'm all done with the Arena for sure.

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lol pretty hilarious that IO farms are the only reason one would use arena now.

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PvP is still way too FOTM-friendly. Like all the PvPers have said, they didn't fix it with Issue 13. They raised the entry bar so high that players like me don't have a chance to do anything without being the pity spot on a team.

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Props to you for coming out and trying man but this is simply not true. PvP is much less dependent on skill now. I've only done it a few times but they've made it much harder to be pwnd (admittedly anyone with a brain can pwn me right now, but the scores are lower and the kills aren't quite as instantaneous). Personally though, to the real PvPers, I would take this as a chance to have some fun and use some other characters besides emps and blasters or whatever the hell people use now. Seems like that'd be more of a win-win situation, the PvPers get to whip out some more unique stuff and the PvErs don't get "humiliated" or w/e.