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It was on-topic in so much it's something that was an acknowledged issue by players, but didn't get addressed. Your response, however, was off-topic.

Also, I can justify my 'grudge' in so much that as someone that personally tested and fought for the set to be tested further before being shoved live, I am deeply annoyed it was put into live as is.

Did you just respond to try to start a fight? Considering my post was about it's endurance problems, the bad target caps and the fact they were cones, which posters above mine had mentioned before me...

... I think you didn't read the thread and just wanted to pick a fight. Please, try to be nice.

Build Up and Aim are boring and questionably useful, as Leo_G put it better (and me lacking the effort to bother).

Your logic is weak in this case. Super Strength is balanced around Rage and Rage with it. It wasn't spawned with shenanigans like Gloom and Burn in mind.

Doesn't mean it's DPA is worth the Arcanamation time. And it's not. But considering your alternatives are Snap Shot and Aimed Shot...

Yeah.

King of Burst Damage, maybe. King of Damage? Not in the least. If I recall, Rain of Arrows isn't that good of a DPA attack anyway. Good opener, but not something you want to fire mid-combat on an AV, I think?

Why don't temporary powers count? Because you say so? I disagree with this logic. IO's cost money, temporary powers cost money. If I want to spend as much money as possible for optimum performance, I should be allowed to use anything at my disposal.

Just because it would make your multi-billion IO build look bad in comparison doesn't mean YOU have the authority to dictate what 'counts' and doesn't 'count'.

I'm sorry.

PS: Break Frees are not inherent to the AT. Blues are not inherent to an AT. Your movie debunks itself with your own logic. They ARE Temporary Powers, just in a different bar.

Envenomed Dagger doesn't expire as long as I make them.

IO Bonuses expire if I'm no longer a VIP unless I have them unlocked.

Except Set Bonuses are not native to the Primary, Secondary, 4 Power Pools, or the Epic or Patron Pool. It is the same logic. The -Regen Provided from the Envenomed Dagger is the same thing. It's a boost to your performance from an outside source. It just so happens to require you to smash your head into your keyboard to activate it.

Is it different because it's a Power? I'd argue Procs require input to function, which you no doubt use. By your own logic, any Proc-Based IO is not allowed because the Proc is not a metric native to the AT. It is an outside power being used but it requires another power to be beneficial.

... Much like Envenomed Daggers only being beneficial if you use your inherent powers to bolster it's purpose.

Set Bonuses are not innate to an AT and are an outside metric that should not be regarded in the performance of an AT as a whole. Envenomed Daggers work the same way.

With this logic (and it's not bad logic, disagree as you wish), Envenomed Daggers should be allowed. And when you allow them, your Blaster would be very upset because then every other damage primary AT is badly out-speeding them.

Additionally: You didn't even attempt to argue last time. Do so in your next post. Not responding properly due to not liking the applied logic is the same as admitting you can't argue it and are admitting defeat.

Temporary powers exist to improve attributes that are already present or attainable in a build. Set bonuses create numbers that are not there.

It's easy.

Moreover...

1) Pretty sure 200% Global Recharge is not attainable in a build by itself.
2) Pretty sure permanent Drain Psyche is not attainable in a build by itself.
3) Pretty sure +100% Permanent Damage is not attainable in a build by itself.
4) Pretty sure S/L Soft Cap is not attainable in a build by itself. (Sans Super Reflexes Tankers but you know what I mean.)

All of these require Set Bonuses, which are not inherent to the AT and thus should not be considered in the viability of the Archetype.

Yeah. That's because you know it's true. They're both generated from Recipes and the Market. Neither IOs nor Temporary Powers are inherent powers of the AT. This is because nothing from an IO's set bonus is inherent to the AT. You can argue against this, but it's your own logic. Envenomed Daggers are not natural to the AT, nor are IO bonuses. I'm sorry, it's reality. It's the SAME logic. They'e both market-generated powers NOT inherent to the AT.

And don't even argue SO's and enhancements in general don't count. Do not insult the conversation.

Moving on, you keep saying every other secondary is gimped to Mental. Your solution, then, would be to give everything Drain Psyche? That power is ludicrous. It gives you Regen levels above current REGEN (ie; the set). At the very least you can MATCH those numbers. This? This power is a little ludicrous. But I won't call MUST NERF on it anytime soon.

Actual number-crunchers suggest TW/Fire beats SS/Fire. Also, you never stated a scenario in where your Archery/Mental beats SS/Fire. Fire Farm? Doubt it. Unless you have capped Fire Defense anyway, and even then. But we're nit-picking and I'd point out numerous scenarios that are optimum to another AT combo and optimum to you.

Which leads to my point; if the scenario favors you, you win.

Moving on, Arcanaville also stressed in that same point that the 1% is also from people with a lack of interest. As someone who's solo'd GMs, it's not that exciting. It's pretty much fighting Reichsman, except with out seven other people to pass the time with cracking jokes. It's not exciting after, maybe, the first time.

Loses all appeal after that, unless you're REALLY into beating on sacks of AI-flipping HP.

Now, I want you to stop playing the victim. People are only tearing into you because you were acting, bluntly, like a jerk. Yeah, you didn't like what they were saying? You don't need to turn into a jerk. You're playing into what they were feeding off of, and now you've dug your own grave. You got provoked, they won. A LOT of posters on these forums are Masked Trolls. The sooner you're aware of that, the better for your persona.

But, no. I'm sorry. In 2012, a 22 minute GM Solo with a set supplying -Regen is pretty lackluster. It's a sad fact. Maybe back in... 2007 or something it would be an accomplishment ( I don't think it would have been ), but you're putting far too much emphasis on Arcanaville's statement of 1% of the playerbase and less on her secondary statement that emphasizes it could be from a lack of trying. Please note everything in your quotes.

Moving on, ignoring half of the game (more than half now) for your point, is flawed. I'm sorry, teaming is a realistic part of the game. More so than soloing a GM. In a team, yeah. The debuffing AT's are worth immeasurably more than your Blaster. So is every other 'Damage' AT. That's the issue at hand.

It's not what you can do using stuff not inherent to your AT (IO Set Bonuses, sorry). It's what the AT does on it's own. And what Blasters do? Isn't any better than every other AT.

PS: Nerf Drain Psyche.

PSS: I want anyone to try to argue why IO Set Bonuses are acceptable, but Envenomed Daggers are not.

PSSS: You won't win the argument.

You really need to stop the attitude. You're, again, a multi-billion IO build who soloed a GM at 22 minutes. This is still not an accomplishment. You used, quite possibly, the ONLY secondary of the entire archetype that can do it.

Take Archery with every other secondary and try to duplicate it. Hint: You can't, because you even said for a fact he was regening at a rate you couldn't sustain the fight each time Drain Psyche missed.

You're doing an extremely poor job of representing yourself with the level of 'Haterade' you're drinking as well. EVERYONE is pointing out how it was Drain Psyche that carried you, at insane recharge levels, and NOT the Blaster AT. It was purely your -Regen. You DID have the (small) amount of damage needed to overwhelm the GM afterward, but This Isn't Difficult. Scrapper with Envenomed Daggers is going to outspeed you. So will a Brute. So will a Stalker. So will practically every other AT.

One secondary capable of doing it =/= representative of entire AT. But I do know you argue that any Blaster who isn't Mental is, and I quote 'gimped'. That attitude is sickening and I really hate the fact someone like you is trying to argue against Blasters using the ONE SECONDARY that doesn't even make them viable.

As for your 'sheer AoE damage' against debuffers? Their alpha AoE is not going to be as high, your right. Except, and do note the following words; they're still out-damaging you in a team scenario. Because their applied -RES debuffs (or +DMG buffs or whatever) is, effectively, damage done by them, by other players.

It's odd logic, but it works in so much that they are amplifying team damage with their debuffs. A Blaster can't even hope to even begin to accomplish this. But, there is a reason the game is oft called "City of De/buffs".

A Fire Corruptor likely won't keep up with an Archery Blaster, in so much that Rain of Arrows is that powerful. But would they kill a spawn slower? Depends on the secondary, actually. They'll, uh, surprise you, to say the least. Build Up + Aim + Rain of Arrows will clear most enemies out, but... so will INSERTRESISTANCEDEBUFFHERE + Fireball + Rain of Fire on a Corruptor.

You could try to find someone to 'race' with it. There's a fairly good chance you'll be beaten by some of the more powerful Corruptor secondaries (Kinetics, Cold, so forth). But that's not exactly the best representative.

If you think Blaster AoE is top of the food chain, you're wrong because you're trying to factor only raw damage and not amplified damage.

Oh, and Titan Weapons still beats you out. Not on the initial alpha, but the course of a whole mission. Sure, it's not a Debuff AT that has access to it, but just saying.


PS: Why is it 'fair' to use IOs but not Envenomed Daggers? Both are market generated items. Just asking.

Not everything can be lightning fast, I'll argue.

Pretty sure the Stalkers wouldn't care. But then they'd want Titan Weapons and Shield Defense.

... And considering Scrappers benefit more from Shield Defense than any of the other ATs, that's a pretty good perk.

IN FACT, you know what's unique about Scrappers? Their melee damage scale. HAH. Can't argue that!

Just quoting to point out that you're doing exactly what I said you're doing. Not discussing it with you, just relishing in the fact you're exactly what I said.

Can't stop, won't stop~!

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Why does this thread exist, again? Scrappers are fine.

Time should lose it's Power Boost synergy and it wouldn't make me as annoyed as it does. Right now it can rival Force Field defenses ontop of it's variety of tools. So either buff Force Fields (Not it's defensive numbers, but it's utility powers could Suck Less), or remove Power Boost synergy.

Why are Demons fine? Bots, Thugs, and Demons are roughly in the same tier. Necro has always been average, Ninjas lacked survivability, Mercs have the lolspecops, and now Beasts just don't do damage. Demons could probably use a tweak but it's not like MM primaries are known for soloing anything by their own merit; it's their support sets that solo AVs and GMs, not the pets so much. Support sets make those 'challenges' much easier.

Titan Weapons has the best theoretical single target and AOE DPS in the game for it's ATs. That means it's superior to both Martial Arts and... I guess it's Electric Melee? Flatly and beyond superior, because they beat those two at their niche and then beat the opposite at THEIR niche. Titan Weapons was balanced around NOT having Momentum, so when you have Momentum (Which you always do), it BREAKS the hell out of the set.

If I had to say what set NEEDS a nerf, it's Titan Weapons. Other sets I'd LIKE to see scaled down are Time Manipulation (Only due to Power Boost), and Street Justice (Crushing Uppercut needs to deal less BASE damage and have it transfered to Combo Damage, so, in effect, Critical Hits aren't nearly as absurd).

Demons are powerful but they are not remotely Titan Weapons. Demons arguably isn't that far ahead, if at all, of Bots or Thugs. Did it Power Creep Ninjas? Sure, but it's not hard to power creep Underperforming.