Raziel_DX_EU

I had a brain wave...

something that debuffs.. but can't be classed like a RAD.. *thinks*.. but still has Psi *thinks* and lets me do more DMG *thinks more*

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Sonic Resonance/Psychic Blast!
*masses of applause*
ty ty ty.. too kind.. too kind...

*achem* Anyway.. yea.. trying it on Defiant atm and it aint too bad actually..

My only issue will be slotting powers and when to get what.. so what I'll do is take Archy 30-second build and refit it with "Sonic Resonance" a lil later on.

Btw.. meet: "N.G. Resonance" (N-Neuro / G-Gravimetric / Resonance)

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bahahahaha, you should play on the US servers for like 5 minutes. Nearly every defender you see is /psi. Psionic Blast is anything but underused.


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I'm not on the US servers tho..
How many here use the /Psi secondary on a Defender .. that's NOT PVP RELATED!


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Yeah, but PvE is a walkover anyway.


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O.o mmmm.... I smell "PvP-esque" view...

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There's no challenge, and you can't ever "lose" at PvE.


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Okay..
tell me something.. of those ?/Psi Defenders over on the US now.. how many of them are PvP-related builds?

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Thought about Kinetics instead of rad? if you arent taking debuffs siphon power, siphon speed, and fulcrum shift would be of more use to you . . .

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I have done.. and I'm thinking about it more and more, atm..

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You need RI/EF/LR or your damage will suck. Period.

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Well considering I'm not trying to BE a full blown Blaster... Psi is plenty DMG as it is and in it's nature of DMG. That and very few thing RES it as well.

No.. I don't believe I "NEED" those Debuffs.. any more than a SR scrapper "NEEDs" Aid Self to PvP (which you don't incidently). ... no.. I'm gonna go with what I've got.. . before I turn the Blastfender into a walking RAD debuffer, in my PoV.

I can do this as just as fine as any other toon I've ever done.. yea it'll be a struggle to start.. but at least it's an experience with an underused secondary.

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If you want to focus on damage and not turn into a debuffer, take EF only. Lowers their res by 25% (i think), which is a nice boost.

Kudos on the idea, personally I'd try it without any of the debuffs first... by 24 you'll know whether it's do-able, right?

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Yup, I should know by then I think where the problems, lie.

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um.... you do know that rad/psi defenders are pvp fotms

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No I didn't..and at most.. you're talking Debuffers

I'm not a PvPer with it.. nor a debuffer.. me PSI Blaster

but hey..

you do know every AT in the game is PvP FotM, at some point or other?

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I relooked at the build and edited what I wrote, without the debuffs your damage will be too small get the debuffs in there and rule all.

and they are not debuffers, they are blastfenders

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mmmmm.... what you think would be the better ones to go for.. I really don't wanna go down the DEBUFFER route, if anything the Debuffing would be for my own survival, not to allow mass teams to take down a GM, just because I have debuff ability...

... I have my Ill/RAD and Fire/RAD for that.

I guess, I'd like the "Defender" to stand on it's own as a "Psi Defender" not as a "RAD Defender, with too many Psi Attacks and not enough Debuffage".

Focus on Secondary, rather than Primary really.

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Well.. it's a mad idea.. but heh.. about time I did something new again... and it might be interesting to see if it's possible.

A Blastery Psychic Defender,. much like a Rikti in some respects.

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Radiation Emission
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Radiant Aura==> Heal Heal Heal Rechg
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
02) --> Subdue==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
04) --> Accelerate Metabolism==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
06) --> Psionic Lance==> Acc Dmg Dmg Dmg
08) --> Air Superiority==> Acc Acc
10) --> Psychic Scream==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg
12) --> Swift==> Run
14) --> Fly==> Fly Fly
16) --> Health==> Heal
18) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod EndMod EndMod
22) --> Will Domination==> Acc EndRdx Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
24) --> Kick==> Acc
26) --> Tough==> DmgRes DmgRes DmgRes EndRdx EndRdx
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc EndRdx KB_Dist KB_Dist
30) --> Assault==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
32) --> Tactics==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc EndRdx Rechg DisDur
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc Rechg Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes DmgRes DmgRes EndRdx EndRdx
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc EndRdx Dmg Dmg Dmg
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty
01) --> Sprint==> Empty
01) --> Brawl==> Empty
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty
02) --> Rest==> Empty
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MaX mentioned adding RI/EF/LR from RAD pool.. but I'm not so sure on some of that.. as it makes it more a RAD Debuffer.. not a Psi Blaster.. if you get the idea..

I have no misgivings about it.. I'm not a Blaster and I won't be 1v1 with a group of 10 foes
(tho if I do it'd be cool.. and knowing me.. I might just try it...)

I'm not sure about slotting in some powers, as I'm not all Up-to-Date on my Psy powerset info.. so any info/ideas are appreciated.

Remember:: PSI BLASTER.. not.. RAD DEBUFFER/HEALER

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But last thing I want is a RAD defender with Psi powers.. would be going 99% Psi based, maybe "Radiant Aura" and "Accelerated Metabolism", the rest, Psi or Power Pool.


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:/ I dunno... sounds like RAD Defender...

I'll make a build up or summat and post it in Defenders Thread.. see what I can come up with.

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Addition:: Post Located here: Psy Blaster

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Focus on Subdue, TK Blast and Will Domination. Those are all short animation, reasonably high damage attacks. Any Psy defender that has some spare slots(which shouldn't be any problem after ED), should look into these attacks(especially TK blast).

Psychic Wail can be fun as well, for people that like nuking. I haven't used it since ED came out, but I used to enjoy clearing huge mobs with it back in I4.

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Concept: a PSI-Blaster

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Could do a Rad/Psy Offender. Very effective indeed. Or you could go Kin/Psy for Fulcrum Shifted Psychic Wail.

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Could do a Rad/Psy Offender.


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Sounds very Rikti like.. and tbh, was an idea I had when I created that toon on Defiant, might just go with it, as well.

But last thing I want is a RAD defender with Psi powers.. would be going 99% Psi based, maybe "Radiant Aura" and "Accelerated Metabolism", the rest, Psi or Power Pool.

Now to figure out the best Slotting setup.

I don't know the Psi set very well :P and it was a 15second idea -- on a powerset trying to be "offensive". lol

How can I improve on it, if such a think is possible?

Concept: a PSI-Blaster

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> MaXimilion - Was thinking semi PvP...

>Raziel - Assault + TD was ment for improved stalker spotting...

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I guessed

But, I didn't see a reason for more ToHit in there as the +perception from both, is used for Stalker spotting., the ACC and 3xToHit in TD shud be capable to hit a Stalker thru DEF.. tho I cud be wrong, I dunno.

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the priamry always come first

[/ QUOTE ]What about blappers? Scrankkers? Tanking brutes? "Healer" corruptors? Ill/Empathy controllers who focus on their secondary? And, most relevant to this thread, offenders?

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Mmmmm as sumone who has practically all those I can safely say this..

>>>>>>>>TOON FOCUS<<<<<<<< but they STILL know they're place on what they are.. BRUTE aint a TANKER, STALKER aint a SCRAPPER.. etceetcetc you get the idea...

*achem* also note...

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The best advice I can give you is stick with the primaries, what ever you choose with regard to travel or Pools don’t let anyone else say its [censored] because if it works for you then there’s nothing wrong with it and as long as you’re keeping the team alive then everyone’s happy


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but here's the best parts

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i would never fool myself into believing that im a blaster.. because im not!! the priamry always come first which is what i meant when i said "your a healer (primary) not a blaster (secondary)!!"


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HIGHT LIGHTED for notice

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I'm CONTROLLER first.. EMPATH >>>>>>"SECONDARY"<<<&lt ;<< I do NOT act like something I'm not.


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Like Raz my mind/emp controller is a controller first empath second


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oh dear.... seems me and Shannon care a common theme... and since between us we DO have every single one going near enough..

HELL in fact I'll tell ya what My Sonic/NRG "blapper".. 50/50 focus on powers.. but you know what I'm still a Blaster that means I don't go ACT like a scrapper.. why??.. BECAUSE IM NOT A SCRAPPER

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These are ALL viable ways to play one's character, and you have no right to say to people who choose to build these characters that their playstyle is "wrong".

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I do not recall anywhere she said that...

ooooohhh but I know one person who did...

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Ugh, more Empathy defenders that think it's cool to hang back all the time "healing". Get stuck in people!


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Soooo being an Empath only is wrong? It is thought we should get stuck in well read my Empath build I posted.. then explain to me how a Psy Powered Empath is to be offensive while i go make that toon.

MEHHHHHHHHHH I love morning rants... and when u've not had any sleep in a 24 hrs tis always fun.

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Ugh, more Empathy defenders that think it's cool to hang back all the time "healing". Get stuck in people!

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Maybe an overstatement of what the AT isn't supposed to do.. but hey you know.. just for the hell of it

When I get chance later.. I'm gonna make a toon.. tis an Empath Defender..

here's my 15second-build idea

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Empathy
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Healing Aura==> Heal Heal Heal Rechg Rechg EndRdx
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
02) --> Subdue==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
04) --> Psionic Lance==> Acc Rechg Range Dmg Dmg Dmg
06) --> Air Superiority==> Acc Acc
08) --> Swift==> Run
10) --> Psychic Scream==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg Rechg
14) --> Fly==> Fly
16) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc Acc Rechg
18) --> Health==> Heal
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod EndMod EndMod
22) --> Will Domination==> Acc Acc Sleep Sleep
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
26) --> Recovery Aura==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc Acc Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
30) --> Tactics==> EndRdx EndRdx EndRdx
32) --> Regeneration Aura==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc Acc Rechg DisDur DisDur
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc Rechg Rechg Dmg Dmg Dmg
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg Rechg Rechg
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes DmgRes DmgRes EndRdx
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc Acc EndRdx Dmg Dmg Dmg
49) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg Rechg
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty
01) --> Sprint==> Empty
01) --> Brawl==> Empty
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty
02) --> Rest==> Empty
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You think thats offensive enough for a PSIONIC empath

My view.. sure it is.. but ermm.. hehe.. what about it's empath side?

Nah.. forget empath :P GET STUCK IN as you say... Empath ain't that important anymore, to have toons focused on it as a "pure" empath".. who knows.. maybe My Psi build is a winner.. we'll find out later today.

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Well, it would only be overpowered if you gave it really uber powers. Anything suggested has the potential to be overpowered but if you attempt to try and balance out the issues then it wouldn't have to be imo.

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Yes very true..

and we all know what happened that last "time" that kinda of Balance happened

We called it Global Defense Changes/Nerfs/E.D...

Still a nice idea tho.

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ooooh, why don't you tell me these suggestions before you post? An illusion tank would be cool!

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"Overpowered" much?

I'm not 100% up on my /DEV info.. but I'll take a few niggle-picks at certain ones.

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06) --> Swift==>
08) --> Combat Jumping==>


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Maybe swap these two around, so "Combat Jumping" is first, then "Swift".. if anything to give you a lil more vertical movement on ur way to level 8.

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08) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(8) DefBuf(40) DefBuf(43) DefBuf(43)


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The DEF it gives is very small and not entirely worth the slots.. they're better used elsewhere.

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16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(21) Heal(21)


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Not worth, 3 slotting as DEFIANCE is your "tool" in most respects. 1slot is fine.

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28) --> Assault==> EndRdx(28)


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It's very end heacy... if keeping I'd suggest, 3 slotting EndRdx, to balance the EPS

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30) --> Tactics==> EndRdx(30) EndRdx(31) TH_Buf(33) TH_Buf(40)


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With "Targeting Drone" I'm not sure the ToHit Buffs are worth it, really. I'd do same as "Assault" slotting, maybe add another ToHit into "Targeting Drone".

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35) --> Trip Mine==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)


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Trip Mine, as I remember from my MM, requires ACC, so you're best adding an ACC there in place of a REC, even with Hasten you'll get a fair few out now worries, as it's base Recharge is only about 20seconds.

That's all I can think of atm, I'll let the people who know DEV on a Blaster better, take a knife to the build.

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What we need now are MORE TANKER PRIMARIES, DAMMIT!!!. And I'm grievously saddened / annoyed that we're not getting any in I8.

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Agreed.. A LOT!

More Scrapper Primaries as well would be even cooler.. I want something new to do with me new account/slots.. not repeat "history", such as it was.

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You've 6-slotted Clear Mind?

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And may I ask, what's the fourth slot in Resurect for?

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Range saves being in the middle of a fight... naturally.

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You’re not a blaster you’re a healer!!

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When you take Empathy and take 99% of it's buffs, you are precisely that.. a "HEALER".. a "BUFFER".. what else is Empathy used for, eh? tickling?

Please cleanse ... before you kill off anymore, good genome.


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when i said "your a healer (primary) not a blaster (secondary)!!" and "sure get attacks but dont start playing like a blaster (Archetype)" Is that explained enough for you?


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Which is kinda like my fire/emp controller..

Rule 1: I'm a controller.. NOT a Defender, regardless of my Empathy side.. DO NOT expect me to act like an empath.

Rule 2: I'm not an Empath, regardless of my Empathy side.. my Imps come first, as they're what keep me alive, with my holds.

If I can't access my Imps, liek when I'm exemped.. OK.. THEN I will act more Empath, to keep myself alive, through the team.. but if not exemped.. I'm CONTROLLER first.. EMPATH >>>>>>"SECONDARY"<<<&lt ;<< I do NOT act like something I'm not.

Same goes for a Defender in most cases imho.. that's like making a Blaster with NRG Melee Scrapper a lil.. SURE he can do it.. but that ain't what he's there for -- and FAR too many time's I've seen people treat builds as something they're not, and suffer rather badly perma-debt wise, to themselves and the whole team.

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Thanks for the help guys

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nps at all

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It's a shame one idiot in particular ruined it by crashing the channel I set up and sending me abuse then doing the same on his WS over broadcast in Warburg before rolling a new toon to abuse me more.


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I won't ask who that was.. tho I have my own theories.. and I'm probably right..



Tho we've not always seen eye to eye of late... I find you an upstanding and respect-worthy player -- even if a lil big headed sometimes..

but heh.. ain't we all at some point, I know I have been at times.

.. but seriously.. I refuse to hold a grudge with you.. past is past and things are best left there, now.

If we ever teamed in the past (which we did when I had my Stalker once, and you on ur Corrupter).. it was truely an pleasure.

Goodluck in whatever you do in the future..

CoX has lost one of it's best.

Kinslayer ftw!

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Build up could prolly use toHit buffs for PVP.

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Mmm.. true.. tho I've noticed with mine, there wasn't much in it.. tho I don't PvP very often, but generally anything over level 35 SR wise (due to having more slots), were iffy to hit.

Not bad..

here's my version of a possible EM/Regen..

Obviously I would no doubt change my own setup as I go.. but it's a quick 5mins make up - using notes from my own 50-EM/Nin Stalker, and the Regen setup, in addition to the build Shannon made up.

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Energy Melee
Secondary: Regeneration
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01) --> Energy Punch==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(13) Dmg(33) Dmg(36) Dmg(40)
01) --> Hide==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(7) DefBuf(15) EndRdx(42) EndRdx(42)
02) --> Bone Smasher==> Acc(2) Acc(3) Rechg(9) Dmg(31) Dmg(36) Dmg(37)
04) --> Reconstruction==> Rechg(4) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Heal(19) Heal(19) Heal(29)
06) --> Assassin's Strike==> Acc(6) Acc(7) Acc(9) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Dmg(17)
08) --> Hasten==> Rechg(8) Rechg(21) Rechg(29)
10) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) Rechg(11) Heal(37) Heal(40) Heal(40)
12) --> Placate==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(45)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Integration==> Heal(16) Heal(21) Heal(43)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(23)
24) --> Build Up==> Rechg(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
26) --> Energy Transfer==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Acc(27) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Dmg(36)
28) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(28)
30) --> Instant Healing==> Rechg(30) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) Heal(43) Heal(43) Heal(45)
32) --> Total Focus==> Acc(32) Acc(33) EndRdx(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(37) Dmg(39)
35) --> Fast Healing==> Heal(35) Heal(46) Heal(46)
38) --> Moment Of Glory==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
41) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(41) Acc(42)
44) --> Fly==> Fly(44) Fly(45) Fly(46)
47) --> Water Spout==> Acc(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) Fear(48) Fear(50)
49) --> Revive==> Rechg(49) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
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**Notes:

Why 3 ACC on ET and AS? Simple vs SR and most high DEF, it helps with 3ACC and BU, plus as they're ur "bread and butter" powers.. it's better to not miss a lot, then to have the chance to miss.

Didn't know what to put at 49, so I just went for Revive.. pretty sure someone can think of something better to put there anyway.

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lol btw was statesman there, in my tyrant mish we wondered where he'd gone.

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nah.. he wasn't there.. tis a bug.

but saying that.. Israfel's had Statesman, even tho people said it was bugged back then.. I guess the bug got.. buggier of late.