Psoma

That's good, but it'd be even better if all that person's toons were actually turned into chickens and their attacks turned into the low-dam melee powers of Scratch (Lethal) and Peck (Smashing). Travels would all turn into Sprint and a severely-End heavy form of Hover. Also, all their chat would be turned into random "bock-bock" and "cluck-cluck" words.

I read over the drama last night, and it sounded as if you guys were free to do whatever you wanted but would lose PvPEC support (meaning NCSoft prizes, mainly) if you chose to not allow specific players to join that hadn't been banned from PvPEC events. And yes, people do get banned from PvPEC events, so in this case, there's not much risk on your or your league's part; you can simply allow players to hang themselves and get banned from your league and all other PvPEC events. If the players in question always behave, then you've just gained more players for the league, growing your PvP community. I guess I'm not seeing the problem.

That last part I bolded for your answer. Well, it's actually more about them believing it's not worth their time to work on PvP (and you should disregard the comments they made about not ignoring PvP any more and to keep it a priority). The short of it is that the devs don't really understand the dedicated PvP'r mindset. Because of that, they've always had an untapped market here, which has been frustrating to us over the years.

I don't think the devs spend much time reading anything PvP-related, in all honesty. I'd be extremely surprised if one of them responded to this thread.

We've been suggesting cross-server PvP since basically i4...anything to allow the PvP'rs easier access to each other.

I'm not sure why you're so anti-Test PvP'r, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that anyone with a psi/em cannot be king. If someone can't work with their teammates to get a timed spike, while having a good combination of evasion skill and support, they'll fail miserably. Builds are only part of the equation.

When you say the most "real" PvP'rs won't have anything to do with it, I must take offense. Why am I not a "real" PvP'r? Because I build my toons for PvP specifically? Is it because I've spent probably 90% of my in-game time either PvPing or trying to get others to PvP? Is it because I saw the Test server as the best way to get PvP'rs across all servers to meet up and play together (since cross-server PvP has never been an option and because even Live server transfers weren't possible for a long time)? Is it because I like to play with and against others that maximize their builds and strategies for arena PvP? Why am I not a real PvP'r in your eyes?

Lack of diversity is the fault of players? I'd like it if there were more optimal build possibilities for PvP, and PvP'rs have offered suggestions as to how to accomplish that. You seem to think that everyone on Test has the mentality that they prefer to have the best builds and keep them for themselves and wreck noobs. Read over why I PvP on Test, and you'll see that I prefer to play against people without those advantages...but that doesn't mean that I want to be excluded on Live server events with my builds there.

And Isn't fun subjective? I have fun PvPing in the arena. It's fun for me whether I win or lose, so I'm not above teaming with people that aren't the absolute best or whatever. Don't get me wrong, because like most, I do prefer to win. For some people, it's only fun if they win, so they will only team with people that are as "serious" as they are. Others only like to PvP with people that don't take it seriously at all. Anyway, we're not all about just dominating helpless others 24-7.

Again, I'd love a cross-server option, and I've always wanted it. We can definitely agree on that.

Still broken.