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Quote:Unwarranted hatred and aggression are unwarranted hatred and aggression. Doesn't matter who is using it against whom. It is never right. But there is a difference in that, and in a group of people being upset at a gaming company for being douchenozzles and trying to find ways to combat that, or even just trying to find ways to vent their anger. Can they cross? Sure, it happens. You got some not to bright people out there. But to decide that a WHOLE GROUP of people are being a racist bunch of haters off of a few remarks like that is just stupid. Period.Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter
I was about to make a similar response. In my case it was either skinny, having glasses, liking video games, liking Star Trek, not being good enough at basketball, not having a girlfriend, etc, and these were all valid reasons for physical assault.
Always got a kick out of the only time something is considered "hate" is when it is directed towards a group that has an ethic, racial, religious, national, or sexual background. Any other time someone is ridiculed for what they are, it's just bullying, as if that somehow makes it less evil. But neither you or I ever got to pull out the race card. -
Quote:Man I was regularly mocked and assaulted when I was younger for being POOR, for having clothes with holes in them, for not being SOUTHERN enough, and for just plain being different. When I was older it persisted, since I was still different. Then I moved to New York...and was suddenly mocked for being SOUTHERN.Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
Thanks.... I've since added to my ignore list
I have no problem discussing/debating on a forum, but comments are about as useful as they were before 8/31.
When you are beaten, ridiculed, and called twinyoo because of where you were born... comments and humor aimed at degrading your ethnicity/culture are pretty intolerable.
THIS is why I can't take your cries of "I was treated so terribly!" seriously. You act like your people get mistreated because they are Korean, when in reality its just whoever is different, or whoever a person particularly feels like mocking at whatever point in time.
I have to edit this, because that was a bit harsh. No amount of any sort of hatred is acceptable. But this wasn't some one DIRECTLY INSULTING YOU, or your family. This was a bunch of people with a grudge releasing some anger. And this is YOU, acting like its the end of the world and they are all focused on hatred because of it. TO which I say: Get over it, and good day. -
Quote:Almost universally. Unions started out a great idea but have turned into an entirely different beast now, while buisnesses do whatever they can to spin a story in their favor. Sometimes you get a nice, easy black and white, but usually it turns into a bunch of finely worded arguments that don't really cover everything that then get twisted into something else, with everyone pointing fingers at everyone else.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I've seen both unions and management make some pretty boneheaded demands at various jobs I've had so I've learned not to listen to the propaganda from either side. The truth almost always lies somewhere between what each side is claiming.
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Quote:Got the feeling my spiral disruptor array is about to get a lot more colorful.Originally Posted by Synapse
Challenge accepted.
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Quote:Ironically enough.Originally Posted by Black Pebble
It definitely wasn't Ironik.
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Quote:I WILL SUPPORT YOUR FACE!Originally Posted by Black Pebble
I'm actually going to miss these arguments. Even at the most heated, it's still a load more cordial and well-intentioned than the type of discussions you'll see anywhere else.
With that aside, with just a couple weeks left to go before the forums go dark, can't we spend that time supporting each other? We all have at least one thing in common here.
*Coughs* Sorry, dunno what came over me. I do agree with you, I think we need to spend more time trying to get along before we go, but I think a lot of the people here have some built up aggression where the closure is concerned, and they have to take it out somewhere... -
Quote:He'll probably still see it through some one else quoting it.Originally Posted by Ogi
Woot! Now I have one less person to twist my posts.
Though unfortunately he won't see that German-Americans didn't have a fun time around WWI or WWII here in the States and will miss the fact that some people find Nazi comparisons, even in jest, just as offensive as he's making the kibun issue to be. -
Quote:Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
All of these come to your from Titan.
Sent to NCSoft:
Describing the kibun effort:
Kibun sent to NCSoft CEO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
Yeah - you're right... no hatred or culturally degrading stuff there...
Hang on, hang on! Let's all go cherry pick examples from a couple of emotionally charged people, then try to claim the entire movement is a hatred movement! -
Quote:Done by one person, and OBVIOUSLY meant to represent all of NCsoft, am I right? And I am sure no one has ANY reason to have any negative feelings at all towards them!Originally Posted by Brillig
From:
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index....ic,5449.0.html
Post #1
Post #7
Nothing disrespectful there. I'm sure that's how all "diplomatic liasons" respectfully go about dealing with other cultures.
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I used to be a big WoWer, then Cata hit...so same story as you. I have heard good and bad things about Mists, but I am just not sure that I am going to go back at this point.
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Quote:Because that was EVERYONE in the campaign, right? And not just a couple of people at all. The WHOLE of Titan network suddenly turned to HATRED!Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
An anonymous statement by an ex employee stating how they perceived the situation....aimed at a company.
The other...a direct personal assault based off limited cultural knowledge meant to inflict shame.
Just because someone states their opinion based off their direct experience as an employee; does not mean a group of people are in the right for trying to embarrass/shame someone because they are emotionally upset over a business decision. I signed off Titan once it began using hate as part of it's campaign...and they call me the mean guy -
I play for my armies. I can have up to six individual pets under my control full time and order them around independantly. This is just plain fun for me.
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Eh, editing this out. Trolling the troll didn't feel as good as I thought it would. I felt all...dirty.
I will say though, that nothing you say ever has any weight, Brillig. You pick what little tidbits you can an attempt to turn them into some percieved insult against the quoted, you do nothing but go around stirring up negativity, and all the while attempt to act like you are superior to everyone else involved. You are far, far more immature then even the person I quoted, and yet you try to act like everyone else are the ones stooping to some level. You will not be missed. -
Quote:Much better response. Bravo!Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter
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Quote:Awww! How sweet! Another one! What are you, like ten? "Some one is trying to spread hope! I MUST NOT ALLOW THIS! TIME TO BRING OUT THE SILLY SAYINGS AND INSULT PEOPLE WHO PLAY VIDEO GAMES!"Originally Posted by Severe
all i see is the op creating false hope on something already dead..time to put your big girl panties on and leave the house..your pretend life is over in 14 days.time to grow up.
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Quote:Thank you Gangrel, much appreciated.Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
It is in the "Current position/Update thread" IIRC (although that is on page 2 of the Titan Boards)
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Quote:Yeah, and even WITH moderation they aren't TECHNICALLY doing anything wrong, just making pains of themselves. Its not so bad here, but on other forums I visit I sometimes have entire pages taken up by "You are ignoring this/these user/users".Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter
In the absence of moderation, trolls can easily control any conversation however they see fit, or bury the topic under a pile of cinder, even if they're 'ignored'.
On topic, thank you for the update, Golden. You probably posted this over on the Titan forums and I just haven't gotten around to it yet. -
Quote:Oh man, more proof that it's never to late for the ignore list.Originally Posted by Another_Fan
Just how much were you paid to astroturf ? I mean it's not like the scoring system did much of anything about custom critters in AE (Looks at all the s/l and fire characters that were made)
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Quote:This really can't be stressed enough. Both of them are rather infamous at what they do.Originally Posted by MetalBritches
I'm shocked that you guys are bothering to acknowledge Brillig and Another_Fan. The "proof" that they are unicorns is in the level of their argument. If they had something more relevant than "did not" and "I know you are but what am I," then they would be somehow worth notice.
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Quote:Here here!Originally Posted by JayboH
Whew, I'm starting a 'didn't make the list club' right now - who's with me?
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Quote:My example was a literal example of YOUR example, so there you go.Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
no no coyote had it but your example is a bit off.
This isnt church. this is public forum and basicially what has happened here with the closing of the game and not because they just disagreeing with them to be disagreeing with them and not saying the opposite any louder than what the other person said. This is like someone coming into a public place and sayign that god is real over and over again and finally someone just says, Well ma'am I dont think god exist. And the the god believer acts all offended and start name calling and damnation and brimestone. And the other person takes same position and back and forth. The nthe god believer states they are tired of being attacked by non-belivers when if looking at the situtation if they havent even said anythign about god, no one would even brought the subject up. Yet fail to see that people are tired of them in the same way about saying god is real. But bring a subject up often enough someone will talk about it and not everyone may agree.
Maybe he is maybe he aint.
Maybe the plan z will succeed maybe it wont.
Maybe Santa exists maybe not.
But either way, just as there is nothing wrong and dont want people acting like there is nothign wrong with believing, the other side of that would like that too instead of people acting like there is something wrong for not believing.
See about two things can happen. Either we can spend the rest of time arquing who shot first and who started it for the last 19 days and whos' right and who's wrong and how much should someone hope or what is too much hope and who is not hoping enough and etc go down the same path we are going. Which is a choice but if that is the path then "why" should no longer be a question. Or we can learn to respect each other view without trying to get people to either believe in the hope or not believe in the hope and at least have some semblemce of the good ol days of this forum before it's gone for good. But this is a choice that takes two sides, and I'm fine either way. -
Quote:Which is completely different from the given example. And where do you live, exactly? I lived most of my life in the middle of the Bible Belt NC in a small town with a church on every corner and the most I ever got was a couple of Gehova's witnesses.Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Except I don't do that. I don't go into their churches and announce how silly I think their beliefs are. No, they come knocking on my door, or bothering me while I'm at work, or trying to eat, or any of the others that everyone else does in their daily life. But that's OK because... why? No one's actually ever answered that one!
So, there you go!
To handle this delicately, why should it bother you to politely send them away? They are doing what they think is best. Yes, it runs counter to your beliefs, but it does not change or infringe on them. They are not harming you in anyway. So yes. It is okay. You could always put a sign up out front if it bothers you that much. -
Quote:That was an extremely bad example to be agreeing with. In her example, the person finally just decided they were going to be disagreeable by stating the opposite of the current opinion. It'd be like if you went to a church, let them talk about god for a while, then announced loudly "God isn't real." Yes, there is going to be a fallout over that.Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Now you know how us atheists feel each and every single day. *sigh*
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Quote:God I hope so.Originally Posted by 8_Ball
Sounds like a tabloid just stirring up some ****.
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Quote:Is that just the buzzword now days? Circle jerk? You do realize that even in furthered slang usage, this thread is not that, right? Or did your two cents just involve attempting to insult anyone who might disagree with your viewpoint?Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
Amusing that this thread went to hell on the first page and the circle jerk is still going.