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In a way I do agree, but can something that is fun not also have a material gain too?

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Sure, but I don't see the point of playing a game for "material gain", which is only monopoly money, if it is not fun, and the amount of fun is not proportional to the level of material gain.

It's not entierly obvious (from the data) that the effect is only applied if you complete a combo.

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STF grants 25 merits, if a selected HO (or at least a random one) costs 25 merits or less, I'll be the happiest person in game but, if now I need to do STF two or three times to get 1 random Synthetic HO, I will be sure that this new system sucks for me.

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HOs/SHOs are not available through the merit system.

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I see in the US post linked above, that it is only the mission owner who currently gets the merits in the version on test.

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I hope that's a bug. If that's working as intended it'll turn this into a single player game overnight.

"Want to team?"
"Maybe, what do I get out of it?"
"Er, nothing"
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That's where you have it completly wrong though. You are treating merits like they are the only reward in the game, not a very minor one, much less significant than xp or inf.

If merits are all you are interested in, you will just do TFs, they give far more merits per hour than story arcs, the system is heavily weighted that way.

The story arc merits are simply there for people who are unable to do TFs for whatever reason.

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Cause even now on easiest setting there is still the EB at the end of the arc .

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Have you ever played this game?

You do not get an EB at the end of an arc

You get whatever the mission specifies. If it is a boss, it is downgraded to an Lt on heroic. It it was an AV (and you get very very few of those at low level) it is downgraded to an EB. A very very small number of missions have a natural EB in them. When the do crop up it is not always at the end of an arc.


So, I have been quoting you out of context have I?

Can you tell me in what context "The 0.61 endurance is simply suicidal" is true, unless it is in the context of having the word "not" placed between simply and suicidal?

I have edited you posts to show the posts that are blatently untrue - regardless of context. I edit the post to show which points I am responding to - to put what I say into context.

But to make your pssition clear, simply answer these simple questions:

1) Are Shields more expensive to run than any other defense sets? If so, which ones?

2) Does Ice Armour have an S/L toggle?

3) Is CoX a single player game or a multi player game?

I quite like Eden, one of the first TFs to get an awsome map. ITF and LGTF are well worth doing for good story, interesting battles and unique maps.

It's shown on "view info" in game. The last power in the combo shows the effect of the combo in it's details.

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With this merit reward: Who will want to do the Eden trial anyway but the fast way? Will PuGs ever want to just try it?

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It will be done for fun. Farmers won't bother with it for only 2 merits.

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Do PuGs ever "try Eden for fun?" I mean, personally I'd rather have teeth pulled than ever go near it again, but when I did, it was a "get a load of friends together for an Eden Trial" kind of thing not "oh, I think I'll form a PuG and do Eden for fun."

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I've done it in PUGs for fun a couple of times.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would do something in the game for any reason other than for fun.

I think you are seriously overvaluing merits.

Merits can be exchanged for recipes. Recipes are an entierly optional part of the game, that many players don't even bother with. Most set bonuses have only a marginal effect on performance.

Everyone need XP. Everyone needs if, but merits are comepletly ignorable.

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the simple fact is that teams who do it the 'traditional' way are effectively getting penalised to a great degree.

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No, they aren't. They still get all the xp, inf and most importantly, fun, that they did before.

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With this merit reward: Who will want to do the Eden trial anyway but the fast way? Will PuGs ever want to just try it?

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It will be done for fun. Farmers won't bother with it for only 2 merits.

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S/L goes into ice and ice has quickrecovery ??

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I'm begining to think you can't read. You are the one who implied it was impossible to run shields without QR. Clearly Ice armour does not get an end recovery power until level 26. At which point you will be running your S/L Shield (0.26 end/sec), Wet Ice (0.26), And, situationally, Chilling Embrace (0.26) and Glacial Armor (0.26). I can assure you it is quite playable without end recovery.

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So recap for the DEV cause of all the endless pointless derailing of topic .

Shields is too low def value , needs too many slots.
And no selfhealing panic button .


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Yes. Quite true. But that is not what you said. You said:

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1 Endurance at lower levels , means soloing is going to be a hell . and 0.21 endurance toggles doesn´t leave much attack options endurance till very late .(since 2 slotting for endurance is a must already , so let alone def slotting)

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i can´t imagine to be able to take down EB solo with shields on anything above heroics till 20 . no endurance for a good enough attack chain ,

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The 0.61 endurance is simply suicidal cause eating up 9 slots just for endurance slotting early on .

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only starts to rock when powerleveled .

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Which is all balderdash, because:

1) The end cost is low compared to other defense sets.

2) the game is not balanced around being able to solo EBs at level 20.

3) As thinks stand, Shields doesn't rock at any level, it is weak at low level and weak at high level.

No, Hide would be changed to a Stealth power. Smoke Flash would probably be turned into Smoke Grenade.

No dipstick. Your bolt is restored.

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if we agree with each other, then that automatically invalidates our opinions.

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Agreed.

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Focussed Accuracy issue still stands though... but I can see why it was changed.

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Didn't we actually predict this change to FA around issue 12 time?

Yeah, MMs are one AT I thought would do well, since thier PPPs where pretty sucky to start with, but how is it going to encorage people to choose a wider range of sets if wone of them has Power Boost, and the others have sucky melee attacks?

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its - damage thus equel to resistance ALL

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That's the rub though, the real numbers don't actually show any damage debuff, and I have yet to see any comments to suggest the real numbers are wrong.

It would have to be pretty substantial debuff to make it a "keep on at all times" power anyway. It would have to be -30% damage to offer as much equivelent protection as Deflection, and at that level, it would blow any argument that Shields is defensively weak out of the water.

VEAT PPPs are unchanged.

There are also conceptual reasons why some powers might be taken over others.

Consider Conserve Power. This power is so bland it could fit with pretty much any character, from Natural to Magic. Take Shooting a jet of fire from your finger tips. How many character concepts does that fit with? Far fewer, I'm sure.


IMO, this is badly implemented change, that will tick off an awful lot of people.

they should have either:

a) Only replaced a very small number of extremely unpopular powers

b) Gone to the little bit of extra effort and added a 5th power to each set.

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So you seriously take S/L defense without having quickrecovery before 18 ? on a tanker who has a basic rubbishe attack forced on them ?

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Er, yes. I don't know any tanker who doesn't. You may have notcied Ice doesn't get Quick Recovery, ony WP gets that. No other tanker set gets end recovery so early, and guess what, people have been playing them for years without crying. And if they skipped thier S/L defence or resistance they would certainly be crying, or thier team would. You really seriously do need to learn to play.

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wow you would be suprised its definetly higher then 4

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Thta's funny, because 4 is the highest number of mobs you can get in a solo spawn.

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Making it early on impossible to solo

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If you are fighting +6 mobs and trying to solo AVs and EBs, and other such thing the devs don't intend you to do, then this might be true, but it is quite sufficient to complete a normal mission.


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I FIND THE GAME BORING AS TEAMING

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I suggeste you go play a single player game then.



What you are trying to do is play the game in a way that it was never intended to be played, and then, when that doesn't work, you are saying that the game is broken.

I think the point about the dated sound is valid. It's probably something that could and should be updated, but it never seems to get mentioned on the suggestion board (only specific power effects).

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I just stand there waiting for my powers to recharge, which takes quite a few seconds, then use one of them and stand around waiting some more.


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That's just because you are still low level. You will have lots of attacks later. Same goes for the mobs.

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Seems weird to have 4 mobs beating up on me and my health not budging,

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That's because you are a superhero!

You will soon encounter more challenging foes though.

Also, mobs scale with team size, so it's not uncommon to be fighting 16 mobs at a time if you are teamed.

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Another complaint is that I can't move during attack animations.

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Yeah, don't think the devs like it much either, but it seems to be something they are stuck with, at least with the current game engine.

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The UI is sorely lacking in a "In Range" indicator.

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It doesn't really need it, since you can queue up attacks and they will go off as soon as you are in range.

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Not many people around...

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Most of the action takes place in instances, and there are also a lot (too many) large zones.

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The visceral combat effects that let me know I took a hit, or made a critical. Why can't I hear my enemy moan when I hit him? Why do they just crumple to the ground w/o a noise when they die?


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It's taking it's stylistic cue from the rather sanitised world of silver age comic books. Gritty and visceral is simply not this game's style.

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Also, clicking on NPCs really should evoke some kind of auditory response. Why can't Ms. Liberty say 'Hi hero!' or something to the effect when I begin talking to her?

It might seem like a small matter, but its this kind of fit and polish that separates AAA titles from the also-rans.

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It would be nice, however this game has never had a AAA development budget (more like DDD ).

Wasn't considering using Shields with SS. Would seem to be an anti-synagistic combo. Shields/Dark for me.

Big difference between 20% and 90%!

And unstoppable also drops your toggles (ok, not 100%). OWTS won't if you keep you eye on your end bar.

Only from zombies.