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When you reach that level of power, you can look like anything you want.

So, what are you going to do? Look twisted and alien, or look like something that will fool people into thinking you are good guys?

Find me a direct quote (from an NPC who isn't a lying manipulative bstd who likes to hang with Nemesis) to support your version of events.

That's what they (the Battalion) want you to think...

Rule 1: Prometheus lies.

Which is why they where willing to destroy their well, when it would have been unthinkable to a theistic race.

I don't know where you are getting your info, but it's incorrect. The Rikti come from a parallel Earth, so thousands of years ago they didn't have superior science and technology any more than primal Earth did.

The Battalion draw their power from the Well (or more accurately, multiple wells across different worlds and dimensions). By destroying their Well, they cut off the Battalion's source of power, and thus defeated them.

Since gods and magic also draw their power from the Well, destroying the Well also destroyed all gods. Rikti can believe what they like, it won't make a god spring into existence. Just as on Primal Earth, gods continue to exist, even when no one believes in them. The Well is their core source of power, belief is just extra fuel.

Without magic, the Rikti where forced to depend more on Science and Technology, and this is what caused them to advance faster than Primal Earth.

The Battalion visit planets in the guise of heavenly messengers, promoting belief and magic, and undermining science. This causes the Well to gather more power. When the well is "ripe" they return to the planet and harvest the power.

Well, expecting a new AT called Primalist and never getting it is a punishment. So yes.

Officially, Primalist never existed. You cannot definitively state that something that never existed has been cancelled. The closest you can get is definitively stating that no new ATs are being worked on.

THAT is the strawman. It doesn't matter if someone contributes NOTHING to the team, so long as the objective is achieved and everyone is having fun.

If your motivation for playing is "I want to be the person who makes the biggest contribution to an end game raid" then you choose your AT appropriately.

BUT THAT IS FAR FROM WHAT EVERYONE WANTS FROM THE GAME.

I like the low level game. I like soloing. I like small teams. I don't like raiding. I like watching hoards of enemies throw themselves at me and bounce off. I'm happy to defend weaker allies if they need it, but that's not my reason for existing. I like Tankers, but I'm indifferent to tanking.


CoH has never claimed that all ATs are equally good at all jobs. If you go back to the original manual, it suggests that certain ATs are better for grouping, and others are better for solo. The same goes for end game raids. All ATs are not equal, and they aren't intended to be.

Battalion scouts.

Also: Vorlons.

In which case, why didn't you say this in your original post?

In which case, there is nothing to discuss, and therefore no reason to post...

Because you don't reward people for breaking the rules.

If you mean "in the endgame" then I guess you are going to be stuck playing Brutes.

It's simple arithmetic.

The game is balanced around SOs.

However, with IOs and incarnate abilities, it is possible to cap just about everything. Ergo the AT with the highest caps wins.

But it's a meaningless victory, since there is no content in the game so difficult that an all brute team could complete but an all tank team could not.

Just as tanks have "excess" survivability, Brutes have "excess" damage.

What other reason is needed?

Use of the word "brutally" implies he is conveying bad news, not teasing.

i.e. Primalists are axed. Get over it or live in eternal disappointment.

It has 4 support powers, and the damage powers all have good CC. (Mighty Shove does minimal damage)

If you really wanted to replace Haymaker (or Hurl) with something, I think I would go for a toggle that grants +recovery per enemy within range.

Your grip (toggle hold, zero damage, -def) is a nice idea, but, like a throw, the animation wouldn't work on non-normal-sized-humanoid targets.

A melee cone stun with minor damage would be a possibility. I would be inclined to add stun to hurl though (reducing damage). Otherwise it's pretty useless to blasters.

I pretty much agree. But I'm assuming that the people asking for an unchanged port want to keep all their melee attacks.

I've made a few tweeks and edited my original post. Stand Firm is supposed to be the Rage/BU power (and should allow for fast snipes when slotted). I have put a (small) damage buff into the auto power to make up for the loss of BU damage buff.

I've tried to not change to much from the original powerset, otherwise. It still has more punching than I would want personally.

But "enough scenarios" depends on game content design, rather than powerset design.

For example, one of the issues raised with tankers is there are not enough situations in the game when you actually need that much survivability.

That's not the case. Spider-Man is much tougher than a normal human, and he is certainly capable of avoiding knockback by holding onto something with a superstrong grip.

What people state is not always the truth (AKA, The Doctor lies).

Once they had given Tennant all that time off to do other actory things, they could hardly deny it to the current stars.

Mrs PRAF thought Matt Smith was great in Bert and Dickie the other night.

Did you?

Have to say I'm more inclined to PJ's viewpoint. Whilst the Hobbit has some interesting ideas (which are difficult for younger children to grasp), it is self-consciously childish and twee, awkwardly plotted, repetitive, and has the weak characterisation of someone who isn't, and has no ambition to be, a professional novelist. The best bits are the Gollum parts, and they are the bits that where rewritten later, when Tolkien had matured into a significantly better writer.

LOTOR is much less self-consciously written, and lets the author's strengths in linguistics, mythology, and deep imagination shine through.

Both books are burdened with too much lousy poetry though...

The issue I would have is that I find it hard to imagine someone who is superstrong but not have some degree of enhanced toughness. Some KB protection at least. If I'm strong I shouldn't be easy to knock down.

So, whilst I would like SS as a blaster secondary, I wouldn't want a direct port. I would like to see some KB protection, and perhaps something like Rise to the Challenge from WP. I.e. modded like MA. I would much rather wait longer for something good, than have something rubbish right now.

It also procs toxic damage. Since the proced damage doesn't benefit from +DMG buffs, but does benefit from -res, this is ultimately of more benefit to tanks than brutes.

The act of switching stances causes a drop in DPS and Fury.

It can, depending on sets.

My Fire/SS Tank easily out-damages my Staff/Regen Brute, and has better survivability.

The difference is, a Brute can also be SS/Fire, but a perma-offensive Bio Brute has the survivability of soggy paper.


But the thing is, if you want to do more damage and have a gimmicky mechanic, Brutes are available to everyone. All your suggestions boil down to "turn tankers into brutes", which achieves nothing apart from reducing choice.