Nydirech

I can load the patch for test server and even access it but my screen goes black on test. From the sec that it loads it blacks out my screen I can still enter pass word server select and potentialy char select but as the screen is pure black it takes some Muscle motor memory to pull off( having a 2nd comp I can look at the normal screen of helps too) Anyone know why im geting blacked out ? is this some thing intentional or is there something on my end causeing it? Normal client loads up fine.

Personaly I think the MM Patrons need revamped. I have several MM and dont have a patron on any of them due to lack of need for anything in the patrons that I have anything that I need in my builds.

ok I am going to touch on a little of what a few people have said throught the post.

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Briarpatch_

TP Foe is only usable on Lts and below. It's handy for PvP, but in PvE not nearly as usefull (unless your bot sticks a mob into a wall or something).

I reluctantly picked up Detonator on mine at 44. I LOVE it! The explosion is nearly instant, and the damage is really quite good. It's a keeper in my build.

that is one opinion on Detonator I however dissagree Detonator takes forever to recharge and since bots are ranged they often dont get to the desired location before going BOOM. as for TP foe slote it with Jaunt set+ 3 Acc and you can use it as LONG range pulling for AV it wont TP them but it does agro them OFTEN with out pulling adds. Good example is LGTF pulling Hero 1 with out adds, I also use this trick to TP the microbs out of Mini Hami in LGTF. you CAN tp over LT's if you slot right.
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Daemodand
Detonator is one of the most Villainous powers in the game, especially when used with human henchmen. Get it!


yes as far as RP goes Detonator rocks its increadibly Dastardly tool to keep in your bag of tricks. but not all that grand in practice.
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FreshFish

Neither? I can think of better powers for you to take. What about repair? have that? It's a great heal. Or hasten, or if u dont have maneuvers, or seeker drones, or caltrops. Or photon grenade slotted with stupefy's chance to knockback IO. Or ....

But if i had to pick between only those two, i would pick detonator, simply because you wont find as many uses for teleport foe, because it doesnt work on very many bosses, and u still have some chance of aggroing people around the person u try to tp, like u attacked. It's better in p vs p, but for the normal game, i would go with detonator.

NEITHER??? ok any MM worth thier salt already has repair Hasten on a MM is useless as slotted with just IO's you can spam 4 pois and up to 17 trip mines before they start to fall off ( keep this in mind for pulling av's verry nasty trick) Caltrops is another givein that they have as most MM dont want primary attack powers since this ONLY DRAWS AGRO TO A SQUISHY MM and leads to lots of deaths. As for photon ^^ just kinda covered my opinion on that. Seeker drones is a great power on any other Primary for MM but with bots its a waisted power. Why you may ask. Easy Protector bots get seeker drones for free why use up a power slot for something you already get FREE. already covered MHO on detonator.

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SimonSayz


Didn't feel like starting a new topic and this is fairly recent, so I'll use this thread to ask a question.

I recently did some testing with detonator in Cap Au Diable against some Luddites. It seemed to do the same damage with or without the damage enhancements. Is this working as intended? If it is not, can someone second build their toon or something and help me verify this?

I'm going to drop it down to just two recharge IOs and put it at 49 til someone can verify it.

-Simon

as for your testing Simon test on greens NEVER test on greys greys you will cap damage every time and it negates the test as there is a max ammount of damage you can produce in most games i havent tested the code for CoV personaly yet but in Prior MMo i have played killing a Grey just shows you what your max capable damage is so sloted or un sloted you will achive the same numbers. I sugest testing on blues/greens in grand and running Hero stats.

Looks good. Pick up trip mines and leadership pool avoide seeker and detonator tho. I have TP foe and recall friend in mine to round it out since PP for MM are horriable. if you slot TP foe with Jaunt + 3 acc you can tp the microbes out of the mini hammi in LGTF, it also will pull Hero 1 in LGTF with no additional agro. I use TP foe as a long range AV pull to limit the agro in large rooms works great. you can take veng over one of the other 3 leader pool but I dont cuz I never rember to use it when im not on a rezer.