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    The point is, it doesn't matter which TF you do, you will simply be rewarded in proportion to the time spent doing it.

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    Then in my opinion the point is wrong, fun should be incentivated as a priority followed by challenge (probably fun and challenge are tied). A STF is shorter and far more challenging than Doc Q, Doc Q gives more than double merits for lots more time of boredom and if you want to do another TF, wait 24 hours (granted I'd do so or even more after a Doc Q if finished in one day) or swap char.

    People who run speed TF's will continue to do so, they'll just swap the TF to speed, while everyone else gets penalized for that and not fixed.

    Proof
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    In what world is doing the same TF more than once in 24 hours "fun"?!

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    It's a 24 reward timer substituting the current 3 hour one and as it seems, it's for all TF's on same char.

    Hope I'm wrong, but so far seems what is intended, I like doing more than 1 TF a day on weekends and having the choice of keeping same toon or change, so far seems it won't be possible now if I also want a reward, which I do.

    There you go.
  3. Hehe, imagine all the DXP bars and Patrol Badges you can get for those
  4. Nightmarer

    NCSoft Q3 Report

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    It'd be nice to have some EU only figures as well

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    Wouldn't it be a bit of masochism?

    I guess if they were good, we'd have them
  5. A mate of mine mentioned this one to me during an ITF with a PuG:

    Stranger: Invite me to your SG
    Mate: It is not "my" SG
    Stranger: That's the [censored] excuse I've ever heard!

    Most annoying I had was prolly back a year ago and mentioned already on the forums, I was flying around with a 50 scrapper and got the following tell:

    Stranger: I need your help
    Me: What can i do for you?
    Stranger: I'm a lvl 10 controlelr and I am bord of my missions so I need a 50 to clear them, no need to exemp, I just want to purchase insps from the contact.
    Me: Can't you buy them from Arena?
    Stranger: Not wakies, they're not sold in Arena
    Me: What about Wincott in Hollows?
    Stranger: He won't sell them either until I have progressed in his arc and in the future don't lecture someone who has been playing since day one of beta.

    Can't remember many more peculiar ones except a few weeks ago when a total stranger sent me a tell saying "Shizzle!" I replied "Fo' shizzle!" and that was pretty much it, maybe a mt or maybe the guy was bored
  6. That must be his "vision" of the game...
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    Ah yes, but the fun TFs tend to give less than 1 random reward now.

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    Add the new 24 hour reward timer as per what I've read in US forums so we find that devs are not rewarding fun, but we're are rewarded by doing boring TF's and by not logging our chars
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    fair chance of a good recipe drop

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    Sure, if you call Call of the Sandman a good recipe drop.


    But if randrom drops are your thing, Positron now gives you 4.5 random pool C recipes.

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    In which world is Positron fun?
  9. That's my point, I do TF's primarily for fun PLUS I like to set up my builds so I have a fair chance of a good recipe drop, while Merit System will make TF's the only source of C and D pool recipes (imho, yet to be proven, but there's a high chance to that) and the best TF's don't give the highest rewards.

    I am quite confident that a certain consensus could be achieved toward that, I mean, there are many better and funnier TF's than Positron, Doc Q and Synapse even...
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    I did have a pleasant Posi TF before, but that's because there were only 3 of us doing it and we spent most of the time chatting.

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    Would you repeat it often to get merits for your recipes? With different people? on an eight man random PuG?

    I also had a pleasant one once doing Posi with a couple of mates, that doesn't make Positron TF a fun TF to do, it is bad enough Positron is a must for TF Commander Accolade (and yes, Accolades are not needed in game, before anyone jumps to the obvious)
  11. Not falling into technicalities of merits per minute and all that [censored] mate, this game could go a way better without so many technicalities and more fun.

    Unfortunately the devs have missed the point where a game should feel like a game or like a job, as now stands, you do your TF with a bunch of mates, have fun and if you get a good recipe, perfect, but if you don't, well, better luck next time or at least closer in inf.

    They way this seems to head to is too close to making numbers at the end of the month irl.

    And no, the argument "Invention System is not needed" is not a valid argument for me, for that matter, the game itself is not needed either.

    And to every Captain Obvious around, yes, I am perfectly aware I can quit anytime I wish.

    Edit: If I rephrase to "the game gives the highest numerical rewards for doing the most boring and annoying content" will be more correct?

    Geez
  12. There's something that came to mind while chatting earlier on in game.

    This is a game, a game should be fun and good things should be obtained through fun, if the best rewards are achieved through the two most tedious, boring, flawed and long TF's in game, then something is surely wrong.

    And no, none of you will convince me that Positron and Dr. Quaterfield are only boring and tedious "in my opinion", no Sir!
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    Probably ITF will be the new Katie Hannon substitute for grinding, since I can't see many people farming Positron (55 merits) or Dr. Quarterfield (90 merits)... unless some genius finds a way to finish Doc Q. in 1 hour or so...


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    It will probably be LGTF first, I know a way to cheese at least one of the long missions, cutting the required time for the TF by about 20%.

    But the prefered merit farming TF will simply be whichever gives the highest merits per hour, once you have cut the time to a minimum. It will probably take players a couple of weeks to figure out (if its not LGTF).

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    Some people in US forums claim to have done ITF in 20 min... not sure if it's possible at all but they claim that (eveno someone said teh record was 18 min).

    LGTF would be nice if it didn't contain the pesky Hamidon mish though.

    Also, not sure if the 3 hour window between TFs will still have an effect with the Merit System, if so, better alternate some longer duration TF's in between since Merits cannot be transferred...
  14. Hmmm, not a bad idea after all maybe alternating stoof, ITF is a short, nice (nicer when they fix lagville) and fun TF, wouldn't mind to farm it and get some randoms and also keep some merits that might come handy, doing ITF 4 times on a Saturday and 4 times on a Sunday would mean in such case (let's make it 50%) 100 merits and 4 randoms, a Miracle or a LoTG will be achieved by merits in a couple weeks (more or less, here's where Arc Merits may factor in) plus some pool C and D from random rolls available in AH.

    Basically, for people who want top of the line builds, you can still farm same mission over and over for inf, plus same TF over and over for merits/recipes and IF you still have spare time and will, can do some story arc teaming...

    If the majority of players are not so fussed about high end builds and prefer casual teaming, then the Merit System adds nothing for them, might be well the opposite, while if the majority of players are looking forward top end builds and willing to farm, this new system just changes the farming choices...

    Can't see it being too useful, time will of course tell, but a priori seems that Positron could use his thinking time in much better ways...
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    Also is that correct about needing more than 1 sf worth of merits for a random?

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    Depends on the TF, for a random you'll need 25 merits and not all TF's grant 25 merits. Agreed that the most common ones nowadays, STF, LGTF and ITF grant more than 25 merits (lowest one is ITF for 25 merits iirc) but otheers such as Hess, Katie Hannon or Eden Trial grant less (far less) than that, hence why i am mentioning TF's over and over again in this thread, indirectly, Story Arc merits are very unlikely make someone get a Miracle out of them, but they might provide the few merits remaining for someone who wants it, hence why some people on certain moments might prefer to solo doing their arcs rather than teaming and do someone else's arcs.

    Probably ITF will be the new Katie Hannon substitute for grinding, since I can't see many people farming Positron (55 merits) or Dr. Quarterfield (90 merits)... unless some genius finds a way to finish Doc Q. in 1 hour or so...
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    the merit vendor adds a vendor for things that need saving for, in some cases saving for an eternity if you dont get a lot of merits.

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    Sorry but I still don't get it, I agree with the above but, at this stage, that implies that people will aim merits towards high end recipes, mainly from pools C and D, with no other source than merits for these recipes, sooner or later AH will run out of them, hence no demand because there won't be supply.

    Your previous assumption that most people will go for a random roll clashes with your above statement (bear with me I might have misunderstood something), but even if your assumption proves correct, it is, the big majority of the platyerbase will spoend 25 merits on random rolls and sell what doesn't fit their chars, the pace to fill the AH will be much slower since now, in most cases, you need more than 1 TF to get enough merits for a random.
  17. At the end of the day, it's not that our opinion matters much or anything at all, we might have a chance if in US forums and stuff... in fact, now that I come to think, if not servers, they could at least merge forums.

    At least we can discuss opinions here and deal with job boredom, you know, world wide crisis and all that.
  18. All foes up to +5 levels above you have 50% chance to hit except a few exception that have a higher to hit buff (Council Lieutenants, Nemesis with Vengeance and DE with Eminators come to mind).
    AV's have a bit more tohit, having around 7.5% chance to hit a soft capped char.

    If I am not wrong, this was implemented in I7.
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    Something to consider is that, before the Merit system, you could only get pool C/D recipes doing trials and TFs. But now... you are theoretically able to get them without doing TFs (yeah, I know...)

    All this talk about Arc completing Merit bonus has made me remember reading somewhere that you can also get Merits defeating GMs and doing raids. Maybe this will make the Rikti Ship Raid even more popular and raiding Hamidon a thing to consider again.

    And if they give us Merits for defeating AVs (which I think they don't) I can see the Statesman TF becoming even more popular...

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    Agreed on the rikti raids, not sure on Hamidon, seems a lot of work to tackle by raid leader and rikti ship raids allow more people in and can be done much easier.

    STF will be probably the main HO supply in the market.



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    All these merrits will be is an added bonus that eventually add up to a decent recipe, people will carry on buying recipes the same way they do now in my opinion.

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    Not sure on taht one once the existing C/D Pool recipe supply dries out in AH, unless most people prefer to go the random way and sell what they don't need. Can't see many people grinding TF's for a LoTG to sell it afterwards.
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    The recipes for you build should be much quicker, if you don't include any Purples. a Purpled build will take a lot longer.

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    Can't see how but I really hope so since I play as if purple sets didn't exist (one has to draw a line somewhere).



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    However, the thing you really need to worry about is the price of salvage.

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    Hmmm didn't rare salvage cost 30 merits? I'm sure I've read it somewhere, will try to get a link when I wake up.
  21. Awesome, where is an oxygen policeman when you need one?
  22. Anyway the build looks fine, I personally don't take Medicine Pool on my SR's otherwise they become too boring once soft capped, but mine are DM so I have some form of self heal anyway.
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    As for concept reasons, well adapt your concept or get grinding

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    Indeed, I just find annoying Positron saying grind is being reduced to find out later that it's not true, in fact the opposite
  24. See, I disagree with that, they might not be needed for certain things/people, in my case some chars need them for several reasons, some of them for concept, some of them to do things they couldn't do with certain enhancements.

    If the Invention System not being needed at all is still a valid argument for the devs, they should start thinking about removing it. For good or bad they gave us an ingame economy and a grind on a game where the end content is start anew with a different character, add now dual builds to the equation, the grind can be massive.

    Let's put it this way, if you want a high end car you have to be ready to spend more money and maybe do far more overtime than if you want a medium range one, but this is a game, getting upgrades should not be too easy to make people lose interest fast, but within this particular game's features, devs shouldn't either go too far on that.
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    Yeah well, as it says it's for general PvE

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    Hmmm, you wrote "for general PvP" on your original post, hence why I looked at Fire Sword Circle carefully