Nicky

Although the lodge and ski runs are open, it seems that the missions and presants are yet to go live, well as live as can be on the test server.

tbh ice secondary isnt really ideal for pvp unfortunatly

Well, either that Cherry, or the lowbie comps falls apart beacuse someone cant read between the lines and make a decision?

Have you been running bittorrent while trying to play CoX?

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ok, but i don't think there's an entire issue devoted to it. there's a couple new powersets, new costumes, new missions and at least one thing not announced yet.

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I understand that, but they are being heavily kept under wraps, which I thinks means they either suck or rock, so as I said before I still hold out hope.

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Have you played yet? Trust me the shine will definatly wear off.

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No, I haven't played it. I have, however, bothered to research it before wetting myself on how terrible Issue 13 might hypothetically be. The shine will wear off. Yes, and? The shine wears off everything and anything.

Doesn't mean it's any less enjoyable when I do get my hands on it. With that attitude you might as well quit the poor attempts at criticising the game and cancel your account now. It'll lose the shine after all.

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Theres only a handfull of people who will be any good at this. Yet I can hear thousands of budding missions writers just waiting to waste thier time with something hardly anyone will play unless the rewards are there.

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Rewards are going to be there. Thousands of people are already writing stories in character bios and the like. The mission creator, as it's been explained, is accessible to a broad range of individuals.

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And the people who realise their rubbish at making stories will give up, by the thousand. Leaving something that took massive amounts of work, getting dusty in the corner.

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Thousands of people are complete rubbish at the game itself. Doesn't stop them playing or enjoying it.

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Why do you keep telling me to quit?

I do enjoy the game but yes the shine has started to wear off a little, so I was hopng for something a little more from i13. If GR is saying there is more and apprenetly the new chim stuff is cool I can still hold out some hope that the enjoyment I got when I first started will come back.

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tbh if he was hellbent on hating the game would he still pay his subs?

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If he wasn't hellbent on hating the game would he be mouthing off before the full details of the issue are revealed?

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Nicky is expressing his opinion which he's not alone with and he get's told to quit cause somebody doesn't agree with it? We'd have, what? 10 people left if everyone quit cause of disagreements.

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When someone uses "BUT THE SHINE WEARS OFF" to curb enthusiasm, then I think it's fitting for that logic to get thrown back at him. If you're going to commit yourself to tha kind of viewpoint, then nothing is going to please you and it's pointless to just sit around complaining about it.

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I dont hate the game just dislke some bits of it, as is life.

Everybody seems hyped about something I dont think will be very good, so yes I beleive the shine will wear off quickly when you cant make particularly interesting missions. So an entire (or so it seems) issue devoted to this will be a fail IMO.

And I dont tend to spend much time complaining about stuff. In fact I dont even post all that much. Just enojoy reading others and only post when I feel really strongly about something.

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point about 'wasting time writing missions', base editing is 'wasting time' making the base pretty....


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They're far less of a waste of time that something like PvP is too! With base editing or mission writing, you have something tangible that you get to share with other people. With PvP you get to wave your tackle as some newbie who will never return, and watch your hard earned PvP rep vanish into nothingness if you don't keep on wasting your time. No tangible reward at the end of it, so a total waste of time.

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When did PvP enter the equation?

PvP takes skill and coordination, if more fun to fight a real person than it is to fight stupid AI.

And I'm not even that kind of PvPer FFM.

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Can you read?

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I can. Unlike you however, I judge after doing so.

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I never discussed the game as a whole, only certain parts of it. And I read the announcement and then I read the thing praf posted neither one made any difference, I still dont like the idea and the waste of dev time.

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That's because you're hellbent on hating the game. It's quite clear with your hyperbole about "thousands" hating the idea, making judgements based on ignorance (any later adjustments are irrelevant: fact is you whinged when you didn't have all the facts) and so on.

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tbh in the nearly 2 years of playing this game, theres only a couple of things i dislike, the repeatative missions, the change to TF and this. I have never dissed anything else.

I read about the mission creator, didnt like it, and said so. At what point did I not read something?

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ffs, Im not being funny but I was trying to discuss my concerns over a feature update, and all you [censored] [censored] can do is tell me to quit. Well [censored] you both.

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You lost your shine when I discovered you hadn't even read about the mission creator. Sorry about that.

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I enjoy massive parts of this game, but I hate repeatative missions. The mission creator feels like one massive repeatative mission.

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To you, yes. That's no excuse to blabber about how the game is failing, the developers aren't giving content and how thousands of people are going to lose interest in the game. M'kay.

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Can you read? I never discussed the game as a whole, only certain parts of it. And I read the announcement and then I read the thing praf posted neither one made any difference, I still dont like the idea and the waste of dev time.

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Ill be honest the only reason my account is still active is x4 and the vain hope that there mite be some other fun stuff in i13, but as they havent announced anything, it means none of its ready. And if its not ready, it may well not be ready in time.

I enjoy massive parts of this game, but I hate repeatative missions. The mission creator feels like one massive repeatative mission.

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Erm.... well, that does absolutly sweet FA for me. Basically what I got from that is, no no no this isnt a police band missions creator, its a police band mission creator that lets you add a couple of extra tweaks. All the on the boring as sin mission maps.

IMHO the mission creator will appeal to about 10 people after the hype has died down, then we'll be left with an empty issue, gg devs.

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Yet, hilariously, the only people it isn't appealing to are those desperate to scorn I13 at every turn or they haven't bothered researching it in full.

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Have you played yet? Trust me the shine will definatly wear off.

Theres only a handfull of people who will be any good at this. Yet I can hear thousands of budding missions writers just waiting to waste thier time with something hardly anyone will play unless the rewards are there.

And the people who realise their rubbish at making stories will give up, by the thousand. Leaving something that took massive amounts of work, getting dusty in the corner.

Erm.... well, that does absolutly sweet FA for me. Basically what I got from that is, no no no this isnt a police band missions creator, its a police band mission creator that lets you add a couple of extra tweaks. All the on the boring as sin mission maps.

IMHO the mission creator will appeal to about 10 people after the hype has died down, then we'll be left with an empty issue, gg devs.

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Personally I dont like the mission creator, I think its the biggest waste of dev time to date. The main reason it sucks is because it adds nothing new. The only missions that are still good on this game are the ones that are on none generic maps with none generic objectives. As all we will get is generic maps with generic objectives, they have basically added a police band radio mission creator. Thanks, like they didnt suck enough already.

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Read back a few posts and read PRAF's quote's from Positron on the US forums.

EDIT: OK, a lot of posts.

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After the dissapointment that was the i13 release I really cba looking for it as Im not expecting much.

Sway me with a link or quote?

Personally I dont like the mission creator, I think its the biggest waste of dev time to date. The main reason it sucks is because it adds nothing new. The only missions that are still good on this game are the ones that are on none generic maps with none generic objectives. As all we will get is generic maps with generic objectives, they have basically added a police band radio mission creator. Thanks, like they didnt suck enough already.

And I'm sorry but everyone getting excited over being able to add your own texts needs to calm down a lil. I'll be honest thats not all that special, and neither is any of the other stuff they have announced thats in there. I cant beleive what a massive waste of time i13 is gonna be unless the 'and more' things turn out to be something pretty special indeed.

tbh what a let down......

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All of the really cool stuff we managed to get on video is now known (we had a few tidbits about I13 stuff, most notably the Day Jobs), so unfortunately the video is rather outdated now and I've not heard whether it will be released or not. We'll see if we can find time to have a look through and pull out some of the cooler stuff for a forum post instead.

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tbh thats really lame man, I was looking forward to that....

Basically I pretty much only blast. tbh stalkers suck. If they played by someone good, they can be annoying. If there not, its basically just laughable. Now Anglesabre please shut up, you dont know what your talking about. If you find all those problems with blasters, your doing something wrong. Not one of those ATs I would be worried by, unless the person playing toon was amazing, beacuse tbh, player skill > any AT.

tbh highly unimpressed, what happened to i13 being massive?

tbh, what a let down. i13 is in no way massive, in fact i thinks its worse than i12.

I think the current record is 8:54 btw.

Your upload is fine, it will always be a lot less than your download, this to discourage the use of running webservers from home lines.

Yes while you play online games your are uploading information but, no way near as much as u download. As all you really need to upload is comfirmation of your downloaded packet and info on your current status, whereas you downlaod the status for eveyone else in your vacinity. which is also a lot more data (very basic explination of networking in an MMO).

Speed test at this time of day are kinda pointless as load on the network will be minimal. Try it between 6 and 10, these are peak interenet usage times.

I wouldnt be able to say for sure but I would imagine that the netgraph is showing how your connection is to the CoX servers.

As we discussed last night, major lag like you were experiancing can be from a number of things. I think its fair to say that the problem wasn't with the CoX servers, as we 3 on the TF had no reall lag issue.

With it being so unusually bad lag I would imagine the problem would be due to high load on the virgin network, you reached your bandwidth quota for the month or someone else is using your connection at the sametime, downloading massive files or mutliple people playing online games from your connection such as xbox live.

If it continues I would suggest contacting virgin and ask them to run speed tests during high load times, this would let u know if the problem was with thier network or you.

Animation times were never the problem, the lack of damage and the fact it is all lethal damage is though.

Ill give my lil a stalker another run in a pvp zone but unless it now does more damage from powers other than AS, I'll reside back to shelf.

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I don't aggree. You shouldn't discourage him. A lethal set takes more time and practice, but it can perform it's role just fine in a pvp zone. Not everybody should be pushed into the same set, as ninja blade is fast and hits quite hard these days.

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Fair enough, but from experiance on my ninja blade stalker its an exercise in frustration. The only time the damage was enough to kill anyone was, when someone else had already put them down to half health.

Has there been a damage buff to ninja blade?

btw KS your build has the wrong HOs in tactics and FA