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Quote:Trust me, Highlander 5 IS worse then Highlander 2.I think my head just "asploded" even contemplating the idea that -anything- could be worse than Highlander 2.
Why, oh why could there not have only been one...
I even saw on youtube the "European ending" of Highlander 2 that had Connor floating in the air was he was slowly returning to Zeist and asking her to come with him. She took is hand and they floated away.
Very Peter Pan style ending of heading to wonderland.......ugh.
But as bad as that alternate ending was, as bad as being aliens from another planet, as bad as the renegade version of #2 that omits Planet Zeist completely.......Highlander 5 the Source, was WORSE. -
Quote:No actually the whole Planet Zeist thing really killed the whole concept. There is a renegade director cut of the film that omits Zeist and does NOT help.I thought the second movie did one thing right; it explained why they were on Earth and that they were being punished. That said, I think I made it 30 minutes into the movie before I started believing that suicide seemed like a better idea that finishing the movie.
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I just wished the movies had stuck with the premise of; there can only be one.
I thought the idea of the "villian" in the 3rd movies being trapped in a mountain for years was dumb. I did not bother with the 4th or 5th movie and probably won't waste my time on a reboot either. -
Quote:Connor and Duncan both hail from Clan Macleod, albeit 50 years apart. Or to put it as Connor stated in the series pilotHaving just now gone to IMDB and read the plot summary of The Source, I can only feel justified in having stuck to a policy of "Anything after Highlander never actually happened"...
Some stories just don't require sequels.
Just for curiosity's sake - What relation is Duncan (who I presume to be the hero from the TV series) to Connor?
"I'm Connor Macleod, same clan; different vintage."
Highlander 5: the source was hoped to be the start of a trilogy that dealt with the immortal origins but the movie was SO BAD ....(HOW BAD WAS IT) that not only did it skip theater and immediate DVD release, it premiered on the SYFY Channel then went DVD. Also due to how Highlander 4: ENDGAME turned out, Adrian Paul said he was done unless he gained more creative control for future movies, thus Highlander 5 was initially written as just being "4 new immortal characters seeking the origins of the immortals". No Methos, no Joe Dawson, no Duncan. So getting them back in must've cost some money but the script felt like they were pasted back into the story.
Highlander 5 = worse then Highlander 2. -
Quote:Duncan took a bullet in the back of the head execution style in Season 1 and regenerated from it. Granted his head was still intact except for the wound, but he did heal and regenerate with no brain damage.The question that always pops up in my head is what's the difference between cutting off the head, and shooting them in the head with a large enough calibur bullet so that it effectively obliterates the head?
The only thing I can think of is that one would have to be close enough so that one could recieve the quickening.
And speaking of the quickening, in the first movie, Ramirez decribed it entirely differently from what was shown in the series. Even the whole lightning storm, floating cars and breaking windows in the movie wasn't actually called or referred to as a quickening. I don't think even movie 2 or 3 acutally called that event a quickening. We were just led to belive that this is how immortals passed their power from on to another.
The floating cars, or floating body of the beheaded immortal from the movie was the quickening, but TV show budget precluded some of those FX, though there was the Season 4 Ep when Duncan returned to Scotland to slay Kanwulf the Viking and Kanwulf's body was seen starting to float before all the pyrotechnics started. I think the producers stated that the floating is either off camera or else is a rare event.
However the series DID confirm that proximity will count. In Season 1 Duncan fights a mafioso immortal on the villains yacht. They bumped the engine controls and the propellers start spinning. The villain gets knocked off the ship with his head still attached but got chewed up by the engines and the power still flowed into Duncan.
Season 4 had the episode with the "rain man" immortal that knew all about trains but was otherwise mentally impaired. He gave his life by lying on a railroad track and letting the train behead him. Richie was within range and received the power.
Season 5 Episode #100 with the Four Horseman establishes why fights are one on one. It was presumed to be a "code of honor" among the immortals. But Silas (War) and Caspian (Famine) double team Duncan. The plan was that IF Duncan got one of them, the other would finish off Duncan during the Quickening or just after as Duncan was recovering. Duncan got the fight to a bridge and dispatched Caspian and as Silas was closing in for the kill, Duncan dove off the bridge and Caspian's Quickening was following Duncan into the water despite Silas being only a few feet away. So the power goes to the one that does the kill.
The series also establishes that the age of an immortal is no major advantage in a fight. Darius was 2000+ years old before Horton killed him and he used to be a great warrior-general and conqueror similar to Alexander the Great. Yet had Darius decided after centuries of staying in his church preaching peace to reenter the game, he would have been beheaded by the first capable immortal that came along. Why? Because Darius hadn't taken a head in centuries and he was NOT practicing his combat skills. Not saying Darius would have been an easy kill but he still would have fallen.
Grayson: 1800 years old compared to Duncan's 400 and used to be Darius' lieutenant. Grayson fights Duncan and nearly wins until he got a bit over confident and Duncan then blocks the attack and beheads him. Duncan almost lost but he trains regularly and is an active player of the "immortal game". Also being the star of the show helps too.
Methos: 5000+ years old, allegedly the oldest living immortal. Possibly he is now that the three other horseman are gone. Tells Duncan he hasn't taken a head in 200 years which makes Duncan cringe since Kalas was at least as good in a fight as Duncan. Methos defends himself but is out of practice and doesn't have the will to fight like Kalas or Duncan would and nearly tricked Duncan into taking his head so that Duncan would have more then enough power to take down Kalas -
Quote:Quite true. But....Ramirez did explain that one day they would feel an irresistible pull to a far away land to fight for the Prize. So presuming that is true then hiding in Holy Ground may not be viable.I remember this, I think the failing is just in the fact that, if it did come down to just two of them, one could hide out on Holy Ground and wait for more immortals to come about.
Now the Watchers in Highlander 4 Endgame seemed to circumvent that with the Sanctuary by keeping immortals in drug induced comas. Talk about a gross violation of the non interference oaths of the Watchers. Too bad that Endgame suffered from sloppy editing as well as a weak script. There are I think three versions of Endgame and I'm not sure which is considered accurate, but I think they all failed to properly convey if Sanctuary was on Holy Ground considering that Kell came in and destroyed the place and all but Connor. The movie doesn't show if Kell took them all outside or not or just killed them inside so if it WAS holy ground then he broke the prime rule of the immortals.
Also I think we are to presume that IF it indeed comes down to the last two, and one walks away with the Prize that no new immortals can ever be born again. -
Quote:The Third Movie expanded the Holy Ground rule a bit: Kane confronts Connor in a Buddhist Monastery in New York aka Holy Ground. Connor reminds him of the rule, Kane doesn't care and the fight begins. Kane goes for the kill, Connor blocks but his sword shatters and the shrine starts glowing this rather ominous red glow....Kane then says "After 400 years, patience IS a virtue" and flees with Connor also fleeing the scene as neither wanted to be there for what may have been coming.I think the there can only be one premise works, of course, that means some work is needed to become "the one" when others can pop up.
Those like Krugen are likely to go hunting, while those like Connor and Duncan would be the opposite.
The failing it seems to be the no fighting on Holy Ground.
Season 5 of the series, episode Little Tin God. Villain of the week has a messiah complex and is killing pre immortals and pretending to be God as they wake up as immortals. He teaches them a twisted version of the rules and tells them Duncan is the personification of the devil. He's chased into a cemetary where they still tried to kill him until one remembered that they were told not to kill in holy ground. Joe Dawson of the Watchers later tells Duncan of a legend in their Chronicles of two immortals fighting in a temple right before Mt. Vesuvius wiped out Pompeii. Villain of the week is beheaded off holy ground but near the old church he based out of and a lightning bolt struck the cross on the church which glowed ominously. Duncan sees it and decides its a good idea to leave the area...... -
Quote:Plus in the series there were about as many immortals as there were mutants in Marvel, so the final gathering was still a long ways offThe problem is that the whole 'can be only one' is just a really stupid premise when you think about 'why?'. The first movie's explanation was a hand-waving non-explanation which amounted to 'that's just the way it is with us.' Which is stupid. But, can be good entertainment if you put that aside and see what would happen if that were the case.
To extend the story past a single movie means either an extended refusal to explain why, which will only make the lack of explanation more and more glaring, or, you'll try to explain it and just appear really stupid. Not to mention that 'only one' precludes sequels unless you want to continually go "oops, there's really just one more!" -
I enjoyed the first movie and series, and how the series expanded on certain concepts as well as bringing in new things such as the Watchers. I think the original plan for the series was that it would be about Connor but they decided to create the Duncan character instead which prompted the retcon that states Connor killed Kurgan but it wasn't the final gathering.
Still there is one glaring error from the first movie to the series in regards to the final prize.
It's stated by Ramirez that if someone like Kurgan gets the Prize that mankind is doomed to an eternity of darkness. So that sounds to me like Kurgan lives forever and dominates humanity. So how come when Connor gets the prize that he gains mortality and can allegedly have kids yet also have access to basically all knowledge on earth?
Connor also reminds Duncan that if one like Slan Quince gets the prize that mankind is doomed, same line regarding Kurgan getting the prize.
About the only thing that can be confirmed is that the Prize is indeed all the quickenings and knowledge of all the immortals in one. What effect that would have is open to interpretation. -
Apparently it will be called Highlander: The Reckoning and it is a reboot film for old and new fans alike.
No official word on the overall plot and casting but it is a reboot.
Given how the Highlander universe is currently a bit messed up from some lousy movie sequels, this is a time when I would support a reboot for this franchise more then others.
Current Highlander continuity is:
Original movie with retcon so that yes Connor kills Kurgan but it was not the final gathering, then comes the series, the comes Highlander 4: Endgame.
Highlander 2, Highlander 3 are ignored and Highlander 5: the Source was worse then Highlander 2. -
Quote:Given how tangled and twisted the Highlander universe has become due to the screwy movie sequels a reboot is needed.The game needs more day job badges like Highlander needs sequels.
they are making a reboot of the highlander movie/series...
but yeah more day jobs.... um yeah right after they change logged out time to 3 days
No more dayjobs though, please. -
Was thinking that we should also wait until Snipes is out of jail then make Blade 4: the apology for Blade Trinity.
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Quote:Even if the Avengers movie does the Kree-Skrull war, that's no guarantee they will throw Mar-Vell into the story, even though he was a big part of it in the comic.Rumor is that The Avengers Movie will deal with the Kree-Skrull War
This. Though I would do it after the Last(Next?) Nolan one
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The game need more Day job badges like we need holes drilled through our heads. I'd rather they focus on game quality and debugging things then stick new Day jobs in.
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Quote:Perhaps instead, they should show Lara's estate or home and in a room she has mementos and souvenirs of her adventures and among the items we see a glass case that contains a brown leather jacket, a fedora, a pistol and a whip......Cuz Indy has action!
Though that may be the way to do it!
They should reboot Tomb Raider, and have Indy show up, old, waering his eye patch, and be like a mentor!
I can't help but think that could be awesome!
Be a nice tribute and get people churning up ideas for how Lara could have known Indy. -
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Quote:This. Still a classic and will be for years. Last Crusade was excellent since it had the talent of Sean Connery and he and Harrison Ford were one of those rare teamups that produce some excellent movie magic, kind of like Danny Glover and Mel Gibson (back when he was sane) in the Lethal Weapons."For its time" nothin'. Raiders is still awesome. The kinetic action, the incredible music, the hilarious dialogue... that's why it has staying power.
As for Lara Croft, to me she's just Indiana Jane. Give us a good plot, an artifact worthy of her pursuit and have at it. -
ROM: Spaceknight. First movie is his arrival on Earth and manages to badly cripple the Dire Wraith invasion but the fight goes on. Sequel movie the Wraiths bring out everything they have on Earth, which is a lot. Rom then connects his universal translator to Earth's satellite comm systems to send a distress signal that summons ALL the spaceknights to Earth for a final showdown.
ISIS: need to do something with that ever since the old live action series.
SHOGUN WARRIORS: lets get Mazinger Z in action!
INFRA MAN: A modern and better edited/choreographed remake of the Shaw Brothers bionic kung fu hero.
GOLGO 13: loved the original anime movie and the TV anime series (Queen Bee was ok...)
Shazam/Capt. Marvel: if at all possible make a joke-reference to Superman in it, for the sequel have Superman in it and of course they must fight before teaming up. -
Quote:Also going by myth's and legends, every pantheon seems to have created the universe. At least from their viewpoint. Gets confusing, doesn't it?Precisely.
People seem to forget that "gods" in most mythologies are not of the he omnipotent omnisentient creators-of-the-universe judge-and-master-of-the-afterlife that some attribute to the singular form. They often had a role in the creation myth... and some may have roles in different parts of the afterlife... but that's about it. -
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Quote:I have only seen the complete series set available from the SHOUT! website. Best Buy should have the Season 1 and 2 set.This is out already?! Going have to stop by my local Best Buy when I get a chance
If you don't have Season 3 and Daemon War/Two Bobs then you need the complete set as they are long out of print from ADV. -
Quote:Yes, Garth did an excellent job of revitalizing the character after Marvel killed the Punisher and brought him back as the Zombisher.I've never seen the Dolph movie, what I was referring to was the Garth Ennis Punisher run. The internal monologues really fleshed out the character.
Too bad the character was recently trashed by that STUPID concept: FRANKENCASTLE -
No I don't mean your PC, I mean have you been able to obtain the newly released REBOOT! Season 1 and 2 set or the complete series set?
Got mine (complete set) the other day after a last minute error was found on disc one, thus causing shipment to be delayed a day.
My response to them was "Define.....error".
They informed me that there was a skip in the commentary of Disc one and a text error on the menu. Minor errors but glad they were fixed as I recall the problems with the audio on the Daemon War/Two Bobs disc that ADV released years ago.
The picture looks shiny, the CGI still looks good despite this being 1994 CGI tech, and on a 55" LCD with 5.1 sound system I can honestly say that it's good to be back in Mainframe!
REBOOT! -
Quote:Nah, the monologue from the Dolph movie can be discarded.
The biggest thing it needs is an internal monologue to show the depth of character that the Punisher has.
My main beef with the Tom Jane Punisher was that Travolta seemed to forget how to act.
No major objections to the story and I appreciated how it was expanded to include all his relatives being wiped out, so now the audience can truly appreciate his levels of pain, anguish and desire for revenge. -
Quote:Yes, Lucas did catch some heat for implying/stating that Shmi Skywalker had no husband or lover and that Anakin was conceived via the Force. A few religous folk took exception with that.I have to go with this explanation as the most plausible. However, to add fuel to the fire.
1. Thor always had an air of arrogance about him that could only be deemed acceptable if he was a god. Anything less and he's a bit of a jerk.
As to THOR being a jerk, that IS why in the comics all those years ago that ODIN stripped him of the hammer and cast him down to Earth in the form of Donald Blake. THOR needed some humility and ODIN felt this was the way to teach him.
It finally took the arrival of Beta Ray Bill and his subsequent defeating of THOR to get that lesson over with.
Quote:2. A god's distinction, beyond some alien, is the final word (judge?) on life and death. -