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Well Krona was wielding all the rings in the final fight with Hal, and Hal still blasted him. To me that makes the green power of will the strongest of the spectrum but ONLY when backed but a strong and unshakeable will such as Hal's.

Hal has wielded: Green, Yellow (both parallax and rings), Red, Blue and been exposed briefly to the orange energy when he grabbed the battery and then used the orange ring to help get Parallax out of the CPB. I don't recall him wielding violet and indigo.

Could Hal wield all the rings at once? Quite likely, if he can host Parallax a few times, get sueprcharged from the CPB a few times, wield the other spectrum powers and host the White Entity in the final fight of Blackest Night, then yeah he could.

I think though that instead of Hal being like Marvels comics Mandarin character with a different ring on each finger, that a new spectrum ring is created for Hal that can tap into and wield any of the spectrum energies that the wearer needs...including the black energy, though the more the black energy is used the greater the chance of Black Lanterns arising again.

Ganthet and Sayd have shown that the Guardians can tap any of the spectrum energies if they wish. They easily shifted to blue after being booted out by the Guardians, Ganthet then becomes a GL near the end of Blackest Night (why does a Guardian need a ring?), while Sayd become teh Guardian for Larfleeze and was last seen looking a bit different due to the orange power.

Here's a thought: Saint Walker tosses Hal a Blue Ring in the hope that he becomes leader of the BLC, despite the fact that blue rings cannot create constructs or fire beams unless a green ring is nearby as hope needs will to fully act. (Blue can still fly, heal and communicate without green). Hal takes the ring and makes it work by hoping to one day become a GL again, reclaim his ring and deal with the Guardians and Sinestro. However due to his formidable willpower, Hal can make the blue ring fully functional and fire beams and make constructs. Remember, Hal was able to make constructs out of the red energy when he was taken by a red ring so he can conceivably fully power a blue ring. Guardians cannot forcibly remove a blue ring as we found out when Hal had one, so that puts him beyond the control of the Guardians and able to fight them.

OR: Ganthet creates new green ring and battery for Hal that is programmed to refuse all commands from the Guardians and sends them to Hal. Hal is again a GL, the Guardians can't just yank his ring away and Hal is able to deal with them.

OR: Parallax makes an offer to Hal.....but I can't see Hal being so fearful over what happened or so enraged that he would accept hosting Parallax for the 4th time.

OR: Hal is so furious that a red ring finds him.

OR: the ION entity decides that the Guardians have lost their way and are no longer fit to guard the universe and merges with Hal to give them the needed power to fight them.

Atrocitus did make a prophecy that the Guardians would strip Hal of what he loves most and that Hal would rebel. Well aside from killing Carol Ferris, the only other thing they could take from Hal is his ring which they have done.

To each their own, to me that episode doesn't rank very high on my faves list

For original Trek, my favorite episodes to this day would be:

Balance of Terror
Space Seed (KHAN!)
Errand of Mercy (Organians, too bad there was no follow up with them)
Ultimate Computer (M5)
Trouble with Tribbles
Doomsday Machine

Thanks, Freitag.

Not quite the news I was hoping for, but thanks for the quick response

Took the words out of my mouth, I hope iXP is indeed included as I got about 16 of my 50 50's that only have Alpha so far.

Agreed. Perhaps the most comedic episode was Trouble with Tribbles, even Spock had a surprising but humorous line in it. As far as camp in original Trek, the bulk of that was Season 3, Spock's Brain, children shall lead, the hippie episode.....

Reminds me of the episode of Season 2 of B5 where they had a subtle tribute to the character.

I find that using Pulse Rifle burst in the iTrials seemed to help my "participation effort/reward" ratio to improve instead of just getting all commons all the time or even just threads.

If I recall correctly, HYDRA was started by Baron Wolfgang vonStrucker with some assistance from the Red Skull and Red Skull has been in control of his own branches of HYDRA both during and after the war.


Baron Zemo, Strucker and the Red Skull all worked with each other during the war, though if memory serves the Skull was the higher ranked of the three in the eyes of Der Fuherer.

Think I'll dig up my old Captain America Comics and go thru them before the movie hits. Nostalgia

Well originally it was explained that the Guardians themselves generated the green energy and relayed it to the CPB and thus to the portable batteries and rings, but that was when there was 36 Guardians and the excuse about yellow was a "necessary impurity". I always found it hard to believe that 36 Guardians much less the 8 that now exist were able to generate that much energy that they could give some to the GLC.

Also it's nice to see just why green is used and not the other colors.

The Guardians commented that the rings are programmed to never kill a Guardian, and that no one's will power should be that strong. Well my own theories about that is:

1. With Mogo gone certain ring protocols are no longer online, and this is one of them.
2. Hal with the aid of the Spectre and his own will power purged Spectre and Parallax from him and then willed his spirit back to his body and his body to life. Hal later gets absorbed by Parallax who had already had Kyle and they broke free via their will power. Hal later abosrbs Parallax to fight Black Lantern Spectre and gets freed. We are talking about someone who three times was able to break free of Parallax possession so yeah Hal's will is that strong.
3. Strictly speaking, Krona wasn't a Guardian. He was long since outcast and the ring's AI may have picked up on that.
4. Per the book of OA, "Lethal force is enabled towards all enemies of the GLC". Krona was an enemy and it's quite possible that the lethal force directive overrides the "kill no guardians" directive.

Without Mogo to help guide the rings, the rings are using their own AI and whatever AI the CPB possesses to find ring bearers however the AI doesn't have the memory or judgment capabilities of Mogo to help guide them so per the criteria of overcoming great fear, Sinestro is chosen. Now HOW the Guardians are cool with that at all is amazing considering all of Sinestro's crimes (which are worse then Hal's), yet they discharge Hal in a moment of panic.

Guy, John and Kyle better have some serious words with the Guardians about this. Ungrateful little smurfs........

So how long until the Red, Blue, Yellow and Indigo lanterns will try to recruit Hal? Also I wonder what Ganthet will do about this?

I still chuckle at the JLU episode where Supergirl, Green Arrow and The Question are probing into the events of when Supergirl was injured at end of Superman TAS and they find files on her clone Galatea and she says "It's me!" and GA says "A bit more....mature..then you, but yes"

Well luckily with some of the recent crossovers from both companies, such as Shadowland and Blackest Night/Brightest Day, you can get the main story from the main issues and not get the crossovers. Which was good since some of the crossovers in BN were either dumb or just fanboy fights such as Superman (Kal-el) and Connor Kent vs Black Lantern Golden Age Superman (Kal-l)

When Atrocitus made his prophecy that Hal would again bee renegade and rebel against the Guardians, Sinestro told Hal to ignore it as it was reverse psychology and that one day Hal would realize that the Guardians were indeed not necessary to the Corps.

So far , only Ganthet strikes me as being capable of being a Guardian. he is willing to think and consider all the variables, and not be so dogmatic like the other Guardians.

You said. That picture is practically and apples/oranges comparison.

The original concept of Emerald Twilight involved a second group of Guardians arriving claiming to be the real ones. Hal had to decide which group was real and stick with it and convince the GLC. Hal chose the new arrivals while the other supposed Guardians made the GLC more militant and restored Sinestro as a member. Hal's ring was going to be destroyed but he would discover that he was evolved to a point where he was a living ring/battery and not need a ring anymore and save the day. At the end he was going to quit the GLC and call himself the Protector due to the real Guardians cauing his father's death in Emerald Dawn to help make Hal more fearless and thus a better GL.


Perhaps we will be getting something similar?

It's either that or I can see Kyle becoming a Blue Lantern and hosting the Blue entity.

As to Hal, Atrocitus did speak a prophecy of Hal turning renegade again as the Guardians attempt to strip him of what he loves most and that Hal would rebel.....

Perhaps Hal will host Ion? Or.....perhaps Alan Scott tosses Hal his ring?

I still hope that Hugo Weaving (agent smith)as Red Skull has a henchman or agent named Anderson....

The Guardians ability to depower rings and strip them from a GLC member has always been inconsistent. Why couldn't they stop Hal when he went bonkers and prevent him from wiping out the corps and CPB....unless they wanted him to...?

However, there is no way they should allow Sinestro back into the Corps.

Sinestro led attacks on OA back before the Crisis, during the Crisis he tricked John and Katma into aiding him to getting to OA's moon so that he could blast the spot where the Monitor was born, thus presuming to weaken the Monitor and cause the destruction of the universe.

Sinestro disguised himself as a Guardian (or possessed one) and attempted to sneak away to the dimension that the Guardians and Zamarons were going to.

Sinestro awakes the mad sentient sector 3600 and wreaks havoc, killing many GL's and blowing up the new world they terraformed for Kilowog's people.

Sinestro gets executed by the Corps, enters the CPB and triggers its self detruct, Hal enters it and stops him, leaving him trapped in the inert CPB.

CPB is restored and Sinestro possesses John Stewart, possesses him again to battle Guy for the yellow ring.

The Guardians, in a bout of desperate stupidity, restore Sinestro and toss him a ring to battle lunatic Hal Jordan in Emerald Twilight. Again the question about how the Guardians didn't know it was Parallax, and that it was a Parallax created Sinestro construct that Hal killed should be asked. CPB gets destroyed, all Guardians but Ganthet are killed.

Sinestro lays low and is believed to be dead until REBIRTH and the truths about what happened to Hal are revealed.

Ganthet states to Parallax that his memories that Parallax allegedly erased are back, Parallax calls him a liar. (I tend to believe Parallax in this case)

Sinestro now understands the yellow power and how to truly control and use it and has a few yellow CPB's created, forms the Sinestro Corps, frees Superman Prime, allies with the Manhunters and Cyborg Superman, the Children of White Lobe, the City of Ranx all to attack the Corps and the Guardians as part of the prophecy that Abin Sur was told about the Dark Days and fall of the GLC. One Guardian is destroyed in that war in an effort to dimensionally displace Superman Prime, another is fried by the Antimonitor and becomes Scar, servant of Nekron. (again how did the Guardians miss this?)

Sinestro usurps the White Entity of life only to be unfit to wield it and Hal takes over and saves the day against Nekron.


Hal Jordan: battled Sinestro many times as a GL and was the one that brought down and exposed Sinestro as a renegade.

Hal saves the GLC and the universe from Krona and Nekron in the 3 issue Tales of GLC mini.

Hal "retires" from the GLC to be with Carol and John gets promoted to active GL, however Hal is restless and still aids John and the Corps against Guy and his army of villains in the Crisis. Ends up reinstated with the death of Tomar Re.

Hal saves the universe by stopping Sinestro and the self destructing CPB

Hal leads the attack against the insane "old timer" Guardian Appa Ali Apsa (I suspect Parallax influenced Appa)

Hal later gets corrupted and possessed by Parallax and wipes out the GLC and Guardians and CPB.

Hal later tries to remake things in Zero Hour

Hal later sacrifices himself to restore the sun in Final Night.

Hal later becomes the new Spectre (interesting move)

Kyle helps restore Oa and the Guardians for Ganthet to care for.

Hal finally wakes up and realizes Parallax for what it is and with the aid of the GLC, Ganthet and the Spectre, Hal finally rallies his willpower and purges the Parallax and the Spectre. Hal begins to ascend to heaven but rallies himself and follows Ganthet's beacon back to his body and calls to his ring which returns to him and he his will power heals his inert body and jolts himself back to life. Hal with an assist from Kyle beats Sinestro, then leads the attack on Ganthalax and purges Parallax from Ganthet and seals him back in the CPB. The Guardians are restored and the CPB is reenergized.

The GLC reforms and Hal is part of it, yet reluctant to stand out as an elite GL due to what happened.

Hal ends up leading the charge against the Sinestro Corps, defeats Sinestro in the final fight.

Hal ends up exposed to the red power and nearly kills Sinestro, but gets a blue ring and is purged of the red. Hal as a Blue Lantern defeats Larfleeze but that was after exposure to the orange power. Hal ends up leading the charge against the Black Lanterns of Blackest Night and helps to rally members of each corps to join up in the fight.

Hal takes charge again in War of the GL's and comes up with the alternative of using the other rings due to Parallax possessing the GLC.

Hal defeats Krona.


So Hal gets kicked out and Sinestro is reinstated.........DOES NOT COMPUTE.

If regular MU is in timeline 616 and Ultimates is another numbered universe, then why not simply select another numbered universe and start anew vs. rebooting?

Well, let's just say that Voltron and it's original anime series GO LION are a bit...different...

Any Lion can now form the body of Voltron? Anything to sell new toys..... I remember the old series, there was no way for any but Black Lion to form the body so it sounds like all 5 Lions must have been rebuilt completely.