Nalrok_AthZim

I thought that myself, but if I boot into Windows and select CoX in the launcher, I see info about the Coyote Power and Flying Carpet.

I'm glad some people are actually paying attention here. Everyone else seems to be looking for a new place to call home for petty arguments.

You've got me there. Those missions actually do let you make the first move.

They have downsides, however. They're EXTREMELY short compared to other paper missions, and they're one of the only examples of proactive villainy. They don't exactly make up for the lack of first-move-mentality content.

Thanks for not ready any of the posts in this thread. If you're still pandering to the "you can't destroy the world/kill everyone" argument, the receptionist would like to direct you about 4 pages back.

I am reminded of Deadpool.

Tell me honestly: did you come to this thread to argue?

Is it really that hard to read?

It's NOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS. It's about THE WRITERS.

Yes, we can twist the game world in our head in whatever way we want. That's called roleplaying. But it gets really, really repetitive when we have to keep doing that. All of the redside co-op content is written with heroic intent, and that's what I have a problem with.

Some of our villains don't want the heroes to succeed. At anything.

Why?

BECAUSE THEY'RE FREAKING VILLAINS.

With the track record of the writers lately, I think you may be right.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Can you explain to me how such actions are not reactive? 'Villain X from Villain Group Y has done Z. You should go beat up Villain X and do Z instead.' 'Villain A from Villain Group B has stolen C. You should beat up Villain A and steal C for yourself.' 'Villain M from Villain Group N has kidnapped O. You should beat up Villain M and kidnap O instead.'

At no point in newspaper missions or arcs does a player character ever do actual, "thought of it first" villainy. We're either told what to do (until playing the SSA's) or we piggyback off of the ideas of other villains. It doesn't help that none of the co-op zones/stories have a villain plot that redside characters could run 'behind the scenes.'

Considering the last SSA contact is in the RWZ, it is going to be co-op. And considering the attitudes of the writers in relation to how co-op should work, I fully expect my villains to have to don the 'greater good' mantle and go to work stopping Wade.

If I had said anything of the sort, and if no one in this thread whatsoever agreed with me, I might actually believe you. However, numerous other folks in-game and on the forums have agreed that villainy is bland and lackluster outside of the SSA arcs, especially so in co-op content. Not only would the writers be catering to me, but they'd be catering to everyone else who's chimed in about my thoughts on this matter. They'd even be catering to all the folks who pick up this game over another, newer MMO. If I were to come back to this game anew and find all the redside content written for truer villainy, I'd probably do a happy dance.

I didn't ask the devs to seek my approval. I made a suggestion relating to the villainside content.

Is this really that hard to understand or is everyone just looking for a reason to puff up their chests in an argument? I'm not freaking asking the devs to drop everything and cater to me, I'm not asking to destroy the world and I'm sure as hell not asking for my signature to be required for every game change.

Don't have something productive to suggest? Hit the back button and find another thread to argue in.


Well folks, the thread has reached a milestone: someone used the term 'ad hominem' in relation to a petty argument. Anyone else want to Godwin the thread for us while we're at it?

Or even better, an option to slap the ambusher's head around until he spills the location of his informant. Then, after delivering the informant a very threatening message ("Fiction White 4-9-5 told me about your little plan to stop me. I know right where you are, punk. Get every bodyguard at your disposal ready, because you're going to need about twice that if you want a chance at slowing me down"), you go after him.

I left the moment the 'Fiery Holy War' (look into it if you don't understand) expansion pack turned the game into nothing but arenas and PvP. What I posted is how the game was when I left it. And quite frankly, I don't care what's 'changed for the better' in that terrible behemoth. The game's still a mind-numbing grind with a focus on loot-mongering and there's nothing Blizzard can (or will) do to change that. That's why I left, that's why I'm never going back, and that's why I feel truly sorry for anyone who plays it. I actually pity 'hardcore raiding guild' members because they've let what should be a hobby become a homework assignment. No thanks.

I'd pay a ridiculous sum of Paragon Points to unlock a system like the one described by myself and Coyote_Seven. I really would. I'd pay 2500+ PP for it. Let US call the shots and let the enemy groups of the game try to ride OUR coat tails, not the other way around.

Which is the equivalent of killing a fly with a handgun. If I wanted to skip the missions I would. I don't. Content is content. However, the content has become so homogeneous for Villains that it's boring to see the same old thing over and over again. I'm not going to repeat myself any more because it's right here in big, bold text. If you can't read that, if you can't understand the point of this thread and if you can't give me an argument other than "don't play the content", then adapt your own advice to this thread and don't get involved.

^^^^^ Didn't read a single post in this thread.

Unfortunately, not even Newspaper missions give you freedom. You're still piggybacking off of another villain every single time.

Sure, it might seem like you're going out to show someone who's boss, but ONLY after they showed up acting like a jerk in the local headlines. You didn't do this proactively, you did it reactively.

Once again, you're not in control. Malta formulated a plan to lean on the UN, and you're just going to cross their names off of the blueprints and write in your own. Reactive villainy.

And yet again, another villain group pulled off a plan that you had nothing to do with. Instead of YOU being the guy who boosted the weapon, you're just going to steal it from the stealers.


You know what I'd like to see? Something like this.

Let me put this in big text, nice and spaced out for you (and everyone else still hammering the "you can't destroy the game world, you can't destroy the game world" button).

I do not want to destroy the game world. My original post, in the simplest terms, says that villainy isn't what I'd like it to be.

Got it? Does it need repeating?

Anyone else need me to repeat it? No? Good.

Countess Crey does ****-all in the game. Move that useless bag out of the way and let me do some real evil. As far as the Joker is concerned, what he does is so far above CoV's league that even the orphan gassing in Westin Phipps's arc is pretty tame. Don't tell me we can be Joker when we can't even be Phipps.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Why do you think I made this thread?

I was briefly considering trying that MMO. Not any more.