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Quote:Originally Posted by Yomo_Kimyata
You made some good points, but let's not forget that the whole impetus behind AE was the reality television driver. "Wait, our clients want more content? Let's charge them AND make them develop new content for us. Brilliant! No, you are brilliant!"
The way I look at it, the developers are just lazy and sloppy for asking their subscribers to create content AND for not fixing exploits related to that content creation. Hey, we are all lazy and sloppy to some extent. But I wouldn't hire any of these people if I had a serious job I needed done.
You really believe that? I would love to hear the logic behind that. I'm begging you to fill me in on your amazing insight. -
Quote:lvl9? I got bored with the something before I got there.Originally Posted by Tank_Washington
Perhaps they could hold off on the mass bannings until, say, March 31 2011, and they could give it an event name like, the exodus.
Just saying, I'm currently a lvl9 something, over in another something that's shiny and going to be something on March 31.
Maybe the purity police can get rid of all their undesirable fellow gamers in one shot.
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Quote:No, writing a rant to your customers is never a good idea. Again, his intent is irrelevant. Perception is the only thing that matters.Originally Posted by TerraDraconis
Except he was dead on right to do it and I really hope they do something very like it this time.
I really don't have any sympathy for the people who claim "but the game let me do it." As an excuse to use an exploit. I'm all for banning people who do that.
Really it isn't that hard to spot when something is an exploit. If you are gaining something, anything at a massively accelerated rate over every other way of doing it then I would suggest being wary of what ever it is. This addresses pretty much everything.
Running a farm? Fine. Simply optimizing your way of doing something isn't breaking the rules. It may annoy a lot of people but really it is just using the games normal mechanics. Running a farm and getting multiple times a reward you would for any other farm? Hmm, let me think two seconds about that. .... Oh right clear exploit avoid like the plague and if you are really smart submit a bug report about it while your at it.
If you have to do something odd or run against one type of foe or something similar it is fairly clear that there is a problem and you should avoid it.
So yes I'm all for unleashing the banhammer like that. I'm sorry some people got grabbed in the data mining that turned out to be innocent and note that they could and did appeal it but you can expect that the devs will have monitored who gained levels how fast doing what. Oh yes you can.
Also, mass banning everybody that took part in this exploit will just serve to piss off a lot of people. That is not a good thing for CoH. A small to medium sized MMO like this isn't in a position to piss off potentially thousands of people to teach them a lesson about power leveling. -
Quote:I want more "problems" like inherent stamina.Originally Posted by Ultimo_
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Quote:That may have been his intent. But a lot of people(if not most) perceived it as a pissed off rant. And how it is perceived is the only thing that matters. His intent isn't relevant in the least bit.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Actually, he just made it clear that extreme abuse of the AE would be punished - he's not really the sort to go beserk
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Quote:It appears that way.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Its clear that some folk posting here have never worked a day of retail sales in their lives.
While the game seems to be doing fine in the financial part, it's not like losing 5,000 subs(random number) wouldn't be felt. That is what the people calling for mass bannings are forgetting. -
Quote:There won't be any mass bannings. Pissing off a good chunk of your playerbase is bad business.Originally Posted by Schismatrix
Honestly, i don't expect a mass banning of anyone who used the farms. Most likely the GMs will review the various farms as well as the activities of those who made or used them*. i expect some of the worst offenders will be suspended either temporarily or permanently, and some characters will have the levels rolled back, but a mass banning of anyone who created or entered a farm is very unlikely.
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Quote:I'm really hoping it's option 2.Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
oy.
So, OP, you have two options:
1. You are misunderstanding the data you're seeing.
2. There's a conspiracy between the devs and the rest of the playerbase to hide an accuracy nerf. Nobody will admit to anything, except *you.*
Which, logically, is more likely? -
Quote:Darn!Originally Posted by Santorican
I'm putting you on ignore!
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Quote:Nothing wrong with that. I don't play with anyone unless they benefit me somehow(or at least I think they will). We all have our conditions.Originally Posted by RadDidIt
I don't play with anyone under 9 months unless they seem genuine. *shrug* I'm a fascist.
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Quote:I win.Originally Posted by RadDidIt
And sig'd.
Your points are sound and reasonable. But you finding hidden extreme meanings in people's posts(like the whining and nerdrage) is completely unreasonable. Because you made it up.Quote:Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
What have I said thus far that's unreasonable?
Seriously.
Is it reasonable to simply stop the release of an Issue where the exploit is fixed just to roll out the patch on a backport, with the accompanying amount of time for testing before release?
I simply find the notion that it is laughable. At best. -
Quote:I want Miller Lite and Tequila.Originally Posted by Jophiel
I'm thinking dope and popcorn.
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Quote:Fair point. But since I don't see that kind of blurring of the lines happening in my lifetime, I'm comfortable with my statement.Originally Posted by Lothic
I think it's relatively easy to make that kind of clear-cut, black-n-white decision in 2010 because it's pretty easy to tell the difference between organic lifeforms and technological machines right now. But I suspect there will come a time when the lines between what is a "person" and what is a "machine" will start to blur. Those are going to be fun times indeed.
Yes but they were the same species. Humans and robots aren't. Hell, robots are even animals.Quote:Originally Posted by Rylas
People use to feel the same way about other races of people. Granted, it's easier to hold onto this sentiment and rationalize it because there's not something pumping blood inside a machine, but sentience is sentience. And that's something to take into consideration.
I wouldn't say that. But I will say I'll put other humans over them, solely based on the fact they are human. Just like I put human life over that of animals.Quote:Just because it's silicon and not flesh, doesn't mean it can't actually be alive. Would you feel sentient alien life forms from another planet have no rights because they're biology would be different? Considering conditions on other worlds are nothing like ours, there's just as good odds of aliens being more machine-like than biology-like.
I disagree. I'm saying human life is more important than a machine that can think. In the end it is still a machine, nothing more.Quote:If the day comes that there is sentient life inside a machine, it should be handled with the utmost care for the sake of our own humanity just as much as for theirs. To flippantly disregard it would be to devalue our own.
No. I don't see how creating something that has the potential to be smarter and stronger than humans is a good thing.Quote:Again, I must reiterate, the first moral question to answer is whether or not we should try to make a sentient AI.
Off-topic a bit: The discussion earlier about the lady killing her would be attacker, wouldn't calling it homicide be more accurate than murder? I'm not a lawyer or anything, but that seems like a much more open ended statement to use and would help people not to argue over semantics. -
Quote:I honestly believe some people are not capable of that.Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
Like I have a gun to his or her head, shouting "READ MY POSTS OR ELSE!"
Seriously, why complain? There are people whose posts I dont want to read, and so.... I don't read their posts. Quietly. Saying nothing. Sans drama. Those posts just don't get read.
He or she might want to give that a whirl.
My favorites are when they announce they are putting RandomPosterA on ignore, then two pages later quote that person. -
69,666,212 influence. Payable in 777 installments of infamy.
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Quote:You ask for too much from me!Originally Posted by FourSpeed
There's no magic or manipulation, just simple common sense and patience.
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Quote:Speak for yourself.Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
If you dislike my posts, don't read them. They're hardly mandatory. -
Quote:Pot meet kettle.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Moreover, you're acting as if you're incapable of reason on this issue. -
Quote:Are you really trying to reason with somebody that equates using game exploits to real life felonies? Good luck with that....Originally Posted by Nethergoat
If you had a point beyond "omg some people aren't playing like I want them too!" it was artfully obscured.
I haven't ever made the argument it doesn't affect you.
I'm not arrogant enough to presume TOTAL KNOWLEDGE of a system as complex as this game. Heck, I've deeply immersed myself in the market sub-game since I9 and it still does things that surprise me and run counter to my expectations.
My argument is how other people play is none of your business, as long as they aren't personally agressing you.
If there's a systemic problem, that's the dev's to deal with. /Bug it, or report it or whatever and get back to playing your game the way you like it. If there's a behavioral problem, /petition it.
Otherwise, play your game your way and don't freak out about other people's idea of fun.
Why?
I've already noted ways in which 'casual' gamers have benefited from the current enthusiasm for MA- their common salvage is suddenly worth a relative fortune. IO recipes that they may have previously considered out of their reach are suddenly vastly more affordable.
I've agreed that efficiency on this level isn't good for 'the game' as a whole and that the devs should absolutely turn off the spigot- I'm very surprised the current fad lasted past our last scheduled maintenance.
That doesn't mean it doesn't produce some incidental positive effects from a 'man on the street' perspective.
And like I said, the Purity Police would find the game a cold, lonely place if all their 'undesirables' were summarily driven off.
A better approach is to tend your own garden and leave the subject of your neighbors dubious crop to the proper authorities.
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I would have no problem pulling the plug on AI. I don't care if it can learn, think for itself, or feel emotions. It is nothing more than a machine and I would always treat it as such.
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Quote:I do think that is a valid point. However, I'm confident that a majority of players will adjust to the new speeds pretty quickly.Originally Posted by Twisted Toon
I jump too far, for one thing.
To be honest, Health and Stamina are less obvious boosts to performance.
Swift and Hurdle, on the other hand, throw off my movement.
Not so much as Speed Boost, but it's still intrusive.
Not enough to make me quite, mind you. But, it does irritate a little.
No amount of Gold Bond Medicated Powder helps either.
I would guess that amount is impossible to notice in actual combat situations. I can't think of a single time where I thought that 12% more regen would have kept me alive.Quote:Originally Posted by Santorican
12% passive regeneration on a Mental Blaster won't make much difference. You'd be hard press to notice a difference in survivability. -
Quote:Pure speculation here, but I'm thinking the PR department now has a lot more say on dev forum activity then they used to. And I bet that rant has a ton do with it.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
That was hilarious.
Alas, War Witch seems to be more grounded and realistic than Posi, I doubt we'll get a reprise. -
Quote:What's your point?Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
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Quote:Just want to point out that isn't always true(though it might be true in most cases).Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Players don't respect something they didn't 'work' for. They won't have any connection to the level 50s generated this way, which translates to having no loyalty for the game.
Three of my five most played characters were power leveled during 2XP weekends. -
Quote:For a more specific example, I recently purchased two Apocalypse Damage Recipes(I think that was the recipe anyways) for 310,000,212 inf and turned around and listed them for 400,000,000. Quick 100 million profit on those two(though not as quick as I was hoping).Originally Posted by Nethergoat
for example, I buy up a bunch of stacks of Widget X for 100 inf and list them at 200 inf, although the theory will scale as high up the food chain as you want to go.