Melancton
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In all seriousness, if the Letter Writer turns out to be The CoH Player him/herself, all I can say is that all my heroes will apparently turn out in the future to be rather haughty blowhards who write like drama mamas, and that would be a radical turn in the wrong direction for each and every one of them.
So if the answer is "Surprise! The letter writer is Your Future Self writing to Your Present Self," then that is, to use the popular parlance, Teh Fail.
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*haughty laugh*
You fools! You think you are so CLEVER! You think you have the mystery solved!
BUT YOU ARE WRONG!
At first I thought as you did! But then I realized the missing piece of the puzzle that you foolish, foolish people have overlooked!
It is so SIMPLE, and yet you have all MISSED it!
Ladies and gentlemen, mesdames et messieurs, the letter writer is *gunshot*
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Quote:You could fly to the moon with the amount of hand-waving that the writing in CoH has been requiring for quite a while.Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
What makes Aurora Borealis so special that Shalice ended up taking "a piece of her" in her subconcious when she returned to her own body? Some hand-waving about how she was so injured by the Rikti that she didn't setup proper mental fencing or something? I'm having a difficult time buying that idea.
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Quote:Exactly so! Just in the same way we always know the PRECISE amount of time it will take for the poison to kill you, and if you drink the antidote with 30 seconds to spare, you recover completely and with no residual damage or aftereffects of any kind, since antidotes *mumble mumble*.Originally Posted by Silver Gale
But that also means if anyone tries to do something vastly world-altering like finding out all the heroes' secret identities, then they'll need to leave the computer doing it running for several hours because *mumble mumble*. And if any heroes get to the computer in that time and destroy it, then they'll lose all the data. And they won't be able to incrementally save it to a separate storage either, because *mumble*.
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Quote:That's just what Crow and Tom Servo WANT you to do! They are all in it together with Citadel! It's a vast AI conspiracy!Originally Posted by Silver Gale
Yes. He's a computer, thus he can access any other computer in the world. But don't worry, only data that's relevant to the current plot will ever be compromised. The Council might hack the floorplans for all the banks in town or the codes for a nuclear missile or the mayor's Facebook, but never all at the same time.
Just repeat to yourself "it's just a comic book, I should really just relax".
As we all know, the dictates of the plot will control, and the most elaborate protections will vanish in a *poof!* if the writer wants them gone.
As has been noted by ZombieMan, one swipe of a Rikti blade and Positron's armor breached and he asploded in the comics, but Matt Miller is talking about how tough Positron is because he is armored. Of course, the particular story in which Posi blowed up real good really ought to have Crow, Tom Servo and Mike commenting on it as it unfolds...
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Quote:You are acting like LtCmdr Data could get hacked (by a chip implanted by his maker/uploaded virus, etc.) and hijack the Enterprise once a season or so. Unpossible. Androids can never be compromised.Originally Posted by Neuronia
Citadel has access to ALL THE WORLD'S DATABASES?
What???????
Ooooooook, so there is NO chance of all our credit, military, intellectual property and other knowledge bases including our personals being misused or otherwise compromised by anyone, especially seeing that the Council tried to clone him and Citadel appears in a variety of villain and hero arcs...
Wow.
Funny, my bank account seems to be empty and I appear to have bought 50,000 huge TVs at Best Buy... -
Quote:I second the motion. The look of Fire Swords currently does not suit any of my heroes using those powers.Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
Bit of feedback if any rednames are reading: would love to see the new elemental and magma swords unlocked as alternate models for flame sword, at larger scale for greater flame sword, and the snow and ice sword as an alternate for the ice versions of these powers.
Pretty please? *insert doe eyed emoticon here*
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Quote:One of the more annoying quotes from OWK. Why not just say, "Hey, we had no idea there would be a sequel, and it was too tempting to pass up the shock value. Oh, by the way, sorry about the sister business, too; we would not have had you lip-locking had we known that's what Lucas would decide there, either."Originally Posted by houtex
As Obi-Wan said, everything is true, from a certain point of view.
Of course, when OWK says "everything" is true, bear in mind his other famous line, "Only a Sith speaks in absolutes."
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Quote:I was perusing a bound volume of the first years of the "Prince Valiant" comic strip, dating from the latter 1930's. According to the narrative, Prince Valiant, upon returning from a journey, "made light-hearted love to every woman in Camelot."Originally Posted by KianaZero
Or what we call sweet talking or flirting is what 'making love' used to mean. Now it means the physical act itself.
Either the meaning of the expression was once what you said or the Good Prince had Stamina six-slotted, *nudge-nudge wink-wink say-no-more.*
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Quote:The epic misunderstandings of certain tourists or the epic misspellings of certain villains?Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
I laughed.
What's sad is how likely a scenario this would be if Paragon City were real.
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Ah, Tourist Wife, you silly lass! You did not know how EVIL he is! He is a Rouge Angle of SATIN!
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Quote:Well, okay then. Bugs' power is jaw-dropping and nobody in their right mind messes with him.Originally Posted by AkuTenshiiZero
*Disclaimer: Bugs Bunny is a total BAMF and I mean no disrespect to the Almighty Rabbit.
My first encounter with "toon" was indeed Roger Rabbit. Since the heroes here are animated, I suppose that is where the expression came from.
I typically say "heroes" as opposed to "toons." I guess it is because it seems frivolous and silly that it rankles some folks; the affectionate nature of the nickname takes the edge off for me. Different strokes and all that. -
Quote:I had a huge Behemoth Lord do something similar yesterday in the Portal Corps parking lot. He got knocked down and it was like "I've fallen and I can't get up!"Originally Posted by srmalloy
This explains the oddity I've been noticing in PI; I've been going around hunting Fake Nemesis for Unveiler, and it seems that about half the time I use Air Superiority, rather than flipping and landing on its back, the Fake Nemesis winds up curled up sobbing at my feet, sometimes failing to get up before I finish beating it down. Eventually he did get up, but it happened a second time before I dispatched him. Verrrrrry strange.
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There is a fairly large number of folks who have responded to the announcement of Statesman's impending demise with "Hooray!" and the only possible regret being that they have wanted to do it themselves earlier. Statesman's "self-righteousness" and "arrogance" are often cited.
There is another group who have expressed dismay at the announcement. They have cited Statesman's selflessness and nobility. (Full disclosure: I am in this latter group.)
How on earth can both groups be referring to the same person? The answer is, of course, that the writing for Statesman has visited both extremes.
So let me pose the question: how would YOU have written the Statesman character so that he would be a character that you would want to keep around? What would you have changed about his presentation? What actions did he officially take that you would have done differently? -
"The Rogue Islands is a sovereign nation" is like Doctor Doom's diplomatic immunity: it is a silly rationale that makes things go more smoothly for the plot. I can suspend my disbelief if such does not get overused.
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Whoa.
WHOA.
WHOA.
That is supermegawonderfulawesome, SuperOz. Brilliant Christmas gift. Well done, well done!
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Quote:You're right, of course.Originally Posted by Party_Kake
Jason Todd, Bucky Barnes, Uncle Ben.
Give it time.
"With great power comes great... what? Uncle Ben's alive? Screw that!"
Welcome to
THE AMAZING DARKETY-DARK SPIDER-MAN
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Quote:Oz, I think there are two distinct Statesman(s) (Statesmen? lol) in the mix.Originally Posted by SuperOz
I will miss Statesman terribly, and I feel I've understood him for a long time. I've seen the parallels to another long-lived character of great power, someone who could be considered a god.
The first is the History of Paragon City backstory Statesman, who was best presented by Troy Hickman. Troy began, in his arc, to examine the aspects of Marcus Cole outliving pretty much everyone he knew and teaming with probably thousands of different heroes over the course of his career. The "worst nightmare" sequence scripted by Troy was another facet of this particular Statesman. This is the guy you are describing.
The other Statesman is what I call the "straw-man dill-weed" Statesman. That guy is repulsively arrogant, self-righteous and unpleasant, allowing other characters, especially Manticore, to look good in contrast by playing off of him. He acts like a prize jerk in pretty much every situation he is in. He is a straw man whom the Devs repeatedly knock down.
The first Statesman I shall miss. The second Statesman was designed with such a repulsive personna that I can only presume the desired response is to be glad he is gone.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Melancton
Since I don't know Thiery, I cannot comment on their expectations. A blanket condemnation of all heroes as "lazy" would simply be yet another example of poor writing by the Devs if that has been explicitly stated.Leo, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to convey. Chalk it up to bad writing on MY part.Quote:Originally Posted by Leo_G
Lol I hope you know you're commenting on writing you haven't read and therefore have no idea what you're talking about.
[Spoiler]
Aaron Thiery is an early contact in Atlas who you work with to fight against the Arachnos invasion going on. It's only after you risk your neck to track down a friend's wife who was kidnapped, save your friend who practically threw himself on the line to save his wife (and he has no powers, he's just a man), save them both and nearly destroy Arachnos' whole operation do you find out that the man you're working with, Thiery, actually organized the invasion himself. And he did it because other heroes, like the ones staging protests in the streets, weren't actively helping those in need.
Basically, Thiery thought that his invasion made Paragon *safer* by calling heroes to action.
So if you want to get technical before accusing someone of poor writing, there was no blanket statement, just hyperbole started by the poster you praise as saying 'there is much truth in what he said'. Thiery never accused all heroes of being lazy, he just tried calling them all to action to make his city safer. Crazy, yes, but what you accuse him of saying? Not particularly.
Is it bad writing? That isn't the point of my post, just that criticizing something you don't even know about is rather foolish.
Under what was laid out by you, there was no blanket statement and thus I have no complaint, predicated by my "if."
I try to laud the Devs rightly in the forums when I like something. I have made specific complaints about specific aspects of the writing in other places. My comments about this particular aspect were both predicated by the fact I did not know who "Thiery" was and conditional. Since the "lazy" bit was Thiery's opinion and not a blanket statement by the Devs, no harm no foul by them. -
Quote:Yes.Originally Posted by Leo_G
Curious...
When you hear people yelling for help or hear the magic pulsing of a magic sacrifice, do you drop what you're doing to help them?
The first time I went to save someone from the green fire, I was greatly surprised at the power of the Satanic minions kindling it and almost was defeated. But I was not prepared for my reaction when the victim came back up to me and sobbed, "They were going to kill me!"
Melancton snuffs the green flames with people crying out for help. Every. Time.
Since I don't know Thiery, I cannot comment on their expectations. A blanket condemnation of all heroes as "lazy" would simply be yet another example of poor writing by the Devs if that has been explicitly stated.Quote:To someone crazed like Thiery, that may be the expectation of being a hero. So yes, your heroes *are* lazy. -
Quote:There is much truth in what you say here.Originally Posted by ElementalFury
My problem is the writing, ever since the praetoria story started it's been nothing but dark depressing plot hole ridden crud....
Theres a reason the dark age of comics almost destroyed them, I just hope the devs realize that and slap the writers who are steering the game into being a depressing wreck. If you want super dark, gritty and depressing nightmare fuel, go watch Evangelion. I come here to be a hero, not Crazy Steve.
I like being a noble hero.
I don't like being shoehorned into inaction or darkety dark deeds. As you say, I am not the Punisher.
I don't want to hear, "Well, Real Life isn't like that." In real life, I can't fire lightning bolts from my hands and incapacitate a huge group of people, either. Let me see if my superpowered self can find the way I want.
I am also not enamored of the presentation of Statesman and Ms. Liberty lately for a certainty.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Melancton
Troy Hickman is probably shocked that he is thought of as "the good old days" in CoH story-telling.Troy, for goodness' sake, send a CASE of whatever it is you put on your toast to the Devs!Quote:Originally Posted by TroyHickman
No, but I am shocked about this stuff I'm putting on my toast; I can't believe it's not butter...
I would not want you to "bite the hand that fed you," but MAN do we miss your story-telling and scripting skills! -
Quote:I suppose it is the difference between "Hamlet" and "Spock's Brain": One author conveys inner torment and divided passions in a way audiences generally appreciate, and the other does it in a way audiences generally condemn.Originally Posted by Yamato_Iouko
It shows neither of them are perfect, that Marcus for a moment doesn't care about the public's feelings on how he looks with this outburst, and it shows Megan has a real problem with feeling empathy for her grandfather.
Please understand, you explained the Devs intentions as well as can be done, and I thank you for your take on them.
The Devs' execution of those intentions is like a two-by-four between the eyes: not very subtle and not very enjoyable.
Perhaps if Hamlet had said "Biteth me" to Gertrude and Claudius I would enjoy the Devs' delicate touch in portraying Ms. Liberty and her grandfather more. As it is, it is a straw man and a straw woman having manufactured uberdramatic conflict and it just rankles me.
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Quote:The relationship between Statesman and Ms. Liberty has been portrayed as ferociously antagonistic. (See "Bite me" from the comics, etc.) It does not wear well with me; the Devs appear to think it is fantastic.Originally Posted by Yamato_Iouko
A point that the 116 year-old Marcus Cole would probably realize. Honestly, Statesman probably realizes those responsible will be brought in and just needs to get away from his granddaughter for a while. Considering the apparent no-holds-barred argument the two had at the funeral, I would imagine ANYONE would need to get away for a while.
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Quote:It really does skew things.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That's precisely what I don't like about these purchasable powers.
If you make some powers purchasable, it changes the landscape for those powers that are not. Perhaps Fly could be purchased as well? But then how do you mule that IO? If you don't mule, purchasable Fly would be better.
I still take/keep Fly for those who should be "flying," and I like the Board. There are now advantages and disadvantages to both. It is a puzzlement.
Should they just make the Travel powers inherent like Stamina and friends? That would pose its own puzzlements.