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I like having the NPC's there, but there do seem to be far too many in certain places. There also seem to be more longbow than arachnos, and arachnos have just the basic powers. Where are the bane spiders? or the nightwidows who spam smoke grenade? I was there last night when some heroes would run to the nearest group of longbow the second they got hit. Was fun confusing those longbow bosses :P
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I think it's maybe because they're the invaders, so as it's our patch, Longbow have more resources - and I'm pretty sure that the Arachnos forces in Bloody Bay are stronger than the Longbow forces there, as the situation is reversed, and it's us who are invading their turf.
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Are there any longbow or arachnos outside the bases in BB? I know there's always one on each side which manages to end up near the opposing factions base but I cant remember seeing any from either faction just wandering around like the longbow in SC. Lots of freaks and CoT though. -
I like having the NPC's there, but there do seem to be far too many in certain places. There also seem to be more longbow than arachnos, and arachnos have just the basic powers. Where are the bane spiders? or the nightwidows who spam smoke grenade? I was there last night when some heroes would run to the nearest group of longbow the second they got hit. Was fun confusing those longbow bosses :P
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Errm I dont think that flying invis and commanding a heavy to kill the turrets is hazarous, really
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But there are so many -fly attacks...
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Think his point is you shouldnt see them anyway :P
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Then I realised that what I don't like about PvP in RV is that it's really difficult to worry about the other PCs when you're standing there and Lord Recluse arrives with a couple of buddies.
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hehe. I rememeber bouncing out the base and seeing the camp robot c3po sitting in the nearest pillbox (actually I had no idea what it was at the time, but it COULD have been c3po). Land almost right next to him for a closer look and before i can say "omg! its positron! DIVE DIVE!" he takes me to 1hp. Was lucky to escape :O)
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The rewards I was referring to are the xp/inf/prestige from destroying turrets
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I'm not too bothered about any of those in a pvp zone.
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Actually its best not to take control of boxes
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That explains why I sometimes see neutral pillboxes with no defences. I take control of the box of course.
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Stalkers familiar to you?
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Are they especially adept at taking control of pillboxes? They may be troublesome but there is lots of perception available for stalker busting builds. -
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I want to make it clear that im firmly in the camp of "anything goes inside a pvp zone".
However, I wanted to point out that the AVs will NEVER go down unless there is a concentrated effort of taking them down. They are tough enough to survive a zoneful of heroes or villains. Especially since the AVs of different sides will never spawn at the same time..
I also consider the current 'fight for the control of the zone' system utterly failed, because you get better rewards for NOT trying to fight each other..
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What rewards? For me its reward enough knowing I beat someone or even just put up a good challenge.
The AV's seem ok to me. As you say, its pretty easy to stop the AV's spawning. If your loosing so badly that they do spawn then maybe a big powerful signature AV which is difficult to take down is exactly what you need to swing the balance. -
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The AV's arent there to be farmed. During the build up to RV one of the big "selling points" was that a signiture hero/villain would turn up and help if one side was getting royally spanked.
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A noble idea, unfortunately we all know it doesnt quite work like that..
And no matter what the reason, I still consider it unfair or bad design that a single person can sabotage so efficiently the efforts of 20+ people.
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Thats the game. Heroes want the pillboxes, so do villains. Someone has to loose, sometimes even both sides. It has nothing to do with sabotaging anything. I dont see why someone should have it there way just because they want it. I want all the accolades but I dont have any because cant be bothered. -
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If the event is to take place in a PvP zone, you should also take into account the fact that other players may be using the zone, and it's perfectly reasonable for players in a PvP zone to engage other players they encounter in PvP.
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I dont know should the RV AV hunts be declared a special case or not. It takes multiple teams of people on one side to even attempt beating the AVs, and on the other side all the opposing side needs to do is gain control of one pillbox (can do it easily solo) and the AVs will despawn and the beating AVs is foiled. And you got an awful lot of angry people on one side.
ps. Whoever it was complaining about me not being a mod: told you so.
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The AV's arent there to be farmed. During the build up to RV one of the big "selling points" was that a signiture hero/villain would turn up and help if one side was getting royally spanked. -
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More Dom's too would be sweet.
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Indeed. Can't have enough Doms out there
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Not doing one until we get a Whip powerset.
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Someone asked for it though, plus it will only take a few minutes.
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More corruptors. Not sure what I would like to see on hero side, tanks arent very common, maybe some SS tanks then.
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This week's event will be starting shortly. Just as another reminder, it's on TEST this week!
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Just getting some tea 1st :O) -
Finally got around to putting fraps back on my pc. Look forward to a mako demo soon :O)
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I'm watching Nine Inch Nails this thursday. Should be ok for next week.
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(and the amount of times I've been AS'd on the boat is silly*).
* A silly amount of times**, not a silly feature/tactic/anything else that someone will misinterpret.
** As in, a large number.
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Cant say there was really any danger of anyone misinterpreting the word "silly" in this context.
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Got to be cautious.
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(and the amount of times I've been AS'd on the boat is silly*).
* A silly amount of times**, not a silly feature/tactic/anything else that someone will misinterpret.
** As in, a large number.
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Cant say there was really any danger of anyone misinterpreting the word "silly" in this context. -
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Thanks to Despare, if he's reading this, for being the only other player in RV.
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Everyone else was (on the [censored] beach) in Warburg.
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lol.
I didnt understand the attraction to the beach either. Maybe there's a "build sand castle" temp power I dont know about. -
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"Oh my god you used a green! Lol insps!"
"But... there was THREE of you?!?"
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I usually get the same treatment for using cj to "run away" even though i never run away more than a few feet. -
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Now doesn't that at least imply some form of confusion in this whole area? Hence "Back away".
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I would have said something like "you know, stasis isnt attacking you btw". I would expect a phrase like "back away" is most commonly used when trying to intimidate another person.
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But if we're looking at building the Marqandance Killer PvP character; we're talking an awful lot of pool powers and very little primary/secondary.
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Killer pvp character? Not the sort of thing I would claim, I play a dom of all things! I suggested TP foe but I dont see it as a real chore to pick up. -
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I was attempting to de-flame the situation.
If someone posted a thread about creating a Scrapper and taking the worst possible powers, and someone responded with "that's silly", I don't much see how that could be considered constructive criticism. So, yes, if I had to, I'd probably point that out.
Giving reasons why someone should try X = good.
Telling people not doing X is silly = not good.
As Blind Minotaur said, you don't have to like it, but you don't have a right to call the idea "silly".
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ok. I see. your problem is with the word "silly". What I was trying to say is that I think his decision is based on how he feels at this moment right now. Not that there is anything wrong reacting on emotion, his post had a sort of "indefinitely" tone to it. If he comes back in 2 days time after calming down he might feel like a bit of a muppet after saying he wont be back for a while
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Back away Marq;
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Not sure what this means. Looks like bravado tbh.
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Stasis said that no-one would be able to understand a personal choice because "It's personal"; not an implication of lack of understanding.
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I wasnt assuming any implication that I couldnt understand. To me the last few posts stasis made just seem very obvious. I couldnt see any reason to post them unless she were trying to attack me in some way. Of course, she cleared that up in her last post anyway and it makes sense now. -
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it's Hammerfall's choice.
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Uh huh... ok. we know it's his choice. I just dont see how it makes sense. Its like me saying I'm going to quit pvp cos i dont really like warburg. If he needs a break from pvp, I understand that cos, as I said, you can get frustrated.
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My point was, it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. It's a personal choice, of course you're not likely to be able to understand it.
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Here is the browbeating weasel mentioned
I dont see the point in your response to be honest. If someone posted "I'm making a scrapper but taking as few attacks as possible and all the pool power attacks I can". A few people would post advising them it will be a tough build to play. Are you going to leap on that thread and post an obvious statement like "well. you dont understand, its there choice". -
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it's Hammerfall's choice.
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Uh huh... ok. we know it's his choice. I just dont see how it makes sense. Its like me saying I'm going to quit pvp cos i dont really like warburg. If he needs a break from pvp, I understand that cos, as I said, you can get frustrated. -
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The reason I got infuriated futher and kept this thread going was some peoples responses. Not the heavies. For that reason you can count me out of PVP until further notice. No more test server night, lowbie battle royale, sirens call, RV or arena fights from me from now on. Thanks Weasel for at least attempting to behave civil and backing me.
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I think your being a bit silly tbh. Most people get annoyed with pvp from time to time. I dont see any reason to quit all the other zones just because RV gives you trouble and some people dont agree with you on a forum. -
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Maybe you can provide evidence and quote where people call others rubbish, I cant remember seeing that.
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I don't see any point to it; but I can recognise a hidden Wildean barb from others in an innocuous statement.(Oh sirs, I do believe he talks of Empaths as though he is still playing EQ, what a poor fellow)
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Never played EQ so his response made little sense to me. I couldnt make sense of the empath remark either, its safe to assume people want to use the powers they bring with them. -
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And I've read EVERY post in this thread. What the majority are saying is "I can deal with Heavies; you must be rubbish if you can't"
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Maybe you can provide evidence and quote where people call others rubbish, I cant remember seeing that. People have also supplied alternative ways to deal with heavies but those werent good enough. (maybe TPing a heavy into a bus shelter is morally wrong or something, might hurt the poor things feelings).
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There are no Heavies, Grinders, Farmers, AVs, Turrets or Badge Hunters in Lowbie PvP
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You havent seen my new toon then. Prepare to meet..... "Old McDonald"