Mantid

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1) An Ouroborous mission of the wedding, complete with "TEH MAD XP AND BLING.".

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No, even better: an Oroborous version of the wedding, only its a strike-force and you get autoexemped down to level 1, like villains do for that @%!$ "redo your breakout from the Zig" mission.

And no expees. This is a sacred and solemn occasion, not to be marred by the consideration of vulgar personal gain.

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And you have to take on all eight members of the Freedom Phalanx and all eight Vindicators at the same time!

Also: Longbow Ambushes.

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Charging real world money for costumes and emotes? Wow. You guys have really sunk to a new low. I mean for the love of Christ offer SOMETHING tangible. More CHARACTER SLOTS. Offer a new AT, powersets. ANYTHING. But your CHARGING for costumes and emotes? Are you trying to piss off your customers?

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Of course if they charged for zones, ATs, or powersets, there would likely be an even bigger outcry!

I'm actually surprised "more character slots" hasn't been drug up more often in this thread.

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And here I was going to lock the thread and send LiquidX a stern warning!

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Yeah... LiquidX can always use one.

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Personally, I hope very few people buy the Wedding Pack so NCSoft gets the message that this is not a viable income stream for them.

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Oh yes, and a great message it would be:

"Dear NCSoft, don't go out of your way for us. Don't spend extra time or money on developing or designing anything for us unless you are willing to accept no compensation for your efforts. Don't expect us to support you. We don't want anything more then what our subscription fees already cover."



Its one thing to charge for everything left and right, like some other companies have, its another to offer a little something extra here and there for a small price.

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I'd write a check to Jay and BaB for custom animations and costumes right now, if that's the way it worked. But I have a feeling that the art department didn't burn the midnight oil and get a bonus for these extras: they would have worked just as hard - but on something else everyone would have gotten access to - if they didn't work on these.

I wouldn't mind if these things were, say, veteran rewards that someone could buy to get early, and sufficiently long veterans would get unlocked eventually, so the purchase price was just for the impatient. And I don't mind supporting the dev team in general. And the completist in me is likely to buy the pack anyway, eventually, and the $10 means exactly nothing to me. But I'm still uncomfortable with a ten dollar costume and emote pack on principle.


This does not appear to be a case of "we can't justify the cost of making these items, but maybe we can make them retail items to help defray the cost." This appears to be a case of "hey, since you're making those things anyway, lets see if we can sell them rather than give them away, to gauge the interest of the player population in retail option packs."

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To be fair, none of us know what hours the Devs are putting in or how much work. They could have been working overtime to get the Valentine's event done, they may not have. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and trusting that the money earned from these costumes is either covering the cost spent developing them or will be used to create even better content in the future.

Glass half-full/glass half-empty.

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Seriously though, I think you guys should open the VIP badge/pack as an add on for $5 or $10. Far better that everyone should get a fair shot at it than it should occasionally spring up on Ebay for $60.

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Like this?

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Like that, but for the City of Heroes VIP pack that they had back in the day. It has a badge attached to it and you can't get it now.

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It was the Heroes Gear Kit. It included all the extras from the City of Heroes DVD Edition (Statesman Heroclix, VIP Badge, Cape of the Four Winds, PVP mini-comic, and all that), and ran about $20 bucks I believe.

And for the comment in a previous post:

Everyone already had a fair shot at it. If they didn't get it then, then too bad.

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Ah right... I was getting my packs mixed up. The VIP badge and the Pocket D VIP badge were mixing me up.

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Costumes from live

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No veil?

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There is a veil, but as it is bugged atm and shows up as nothing more then a black blanket tied to my character's head, I didn't include it.

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Personally, I hope very few people buy the Wedding Pack so NCSoft gets the message that this is not a viable income stream for them.

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Oh yes, and a great message it would be:

"Dear NCSoft, don't go out of your way for us. Don't spend extra time or money on developing or designing anything for us unless you are willing to accept no compensation for your efforts. Don't expect us to support you. We don't want anything more then what our subscription fees already cover."



Its one thing to charge for everything left and right, like some other companies have, its another to offer a little something extra here and there for a small price.

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Seriously though, I think you guys should open the VIP badge/pack as an add on for $5 or $10. Far better that everyone should get a fair shot at it than it should occasionally spring up on Ebay for $60.

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Like this?

Costumes from live

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I don't mind paying for the occasional theme pack, but it does seem a little sparse compared to the Costume/Pocket D teleporter/jumppack one.

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Why is that? The lack of a badge or temp power?

GvE was a badge, two temp powers, and two costumes.

WP is around 6 costumes (only the two tux variants are available for males) and four emotes, something which hasn't been done before.

Mechanically, it may be sparse, there are no new powers to play around with, but costume wise its pretty heavy, even if it is slanted to lace and formal wear.

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you're kidding me.. pay for the emotes? wow.

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The details of the Wedding Pack can be found here.

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And here!

Some of the female costume parts as compiled by an Official Forum shy friend.

Emotes:
MarriageProposal
ThrowConfetti
ThrowRice
ThrowRosePetals

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Those are a little out of date with what you actually get under the live build for your $9.99. I have a request in to get some additional screen shots of the items available.

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Heh.. yeah, I notice now that the in game ones are "lacier", or maybe "fish-nettier".

Btw, the veil seems to be having the same problem that trench coats had when they were first introduced: you can't change the inside color!

Haven't found a workaround like the trechcoats had, however...

Pardon my reposting of this...

Some of the female costume parts

Emotes:
MarriageProposal
ThrowConfetti
ThrowRice
ThrowRosePetals

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you're kidding me.. pay for the emotes? wow.

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The details of the Wedding Pack can be found here.

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And here!

Some of the female costume parts as compiled by an Official Forum shy friend.

Emotes:
MarriageProposal
ThrowConfetti
ThrowRice
ThrowRosePetals

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If they wanted professional and lucid, do you really think they'd let me write for them?

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Stop projecting yourself onto others.

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Nice, wasn't expecting to see my xmas present in the Scoop, though it's mis-titled. It's "Alpha-One vs Nemesis" by Juggertha, not "Tanks". Anyhow, good work all, and the article on video creation showed up just as I was planning on making one

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Oops. Sorry that slipped through. "Tanks" is the picture on the first page, and the name just got copied over.

Is that deadline the midnight later or the midnight past? I can never tell who considers which midnight in which day...

Well if its midnight later, I'd be torn between Crimson Jimson and TrickyTacky...

I guess I'll go with TrickyTacky.

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Luminary (Luminos)

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Well technically the male version of Luminary was Luminary, according to the CoH backstory. Luminary(1) was a male human with superpowers, where as Luminary(2), the one we know, is the robot modeled after Luminary(1)'s wife with his powers.

<.<

Not that I'm such a geek that I know these things...

>.>

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The funny thing is, there are people who play this game, that don't even know we exist.

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I can meet 10 random people I've never met ingame before and only 4 would recognize Turbo-Ski from the forums. Oh the injustice!

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On the other hand, it scares me when I'm in game and I actually recognize someone from the forums/art community. I guess it just makes me realize how little of a life I have outside the game.

Nice!

Yeah, I can't recall ragdolls ever looking correct in demorecords. I can't imagine the data that the demorecord files would have to contain to get them to look the same every time anyhow.

Well, not to go out of my way, but here is my Arachnos-themed character character's enforcer costume. his original is on the left, his enforcer variation is on the right, and I threw together a quick hybrid of the two to see what it'd look like in between.

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Wonder what Shia will do when he gets to Turbo-Ski, since her real name is Galina Turboski...well she is also Russian and a bit of a psychopath so I'm sure someone can think of something

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Yeah... I was wondering who let her get into line to begin with.

Niiice!