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Quote:Actually if they were to give us an accolade for "getting them all" then that'd be a fairly clear indication that they had decided not to add any more new Day Jobs to the game. It'd be hard to have a badge for getting all of something if they kept adding more of that something wouldn't it?Gotta admit though, it would be funny if they added an Accolade Badge for getting them all (Red and Blue) called "How Do I Play Again?" maybe give it an "emote power" where your charactrer just stands around looking a bit confused.
So I figure at this point they're technically free to add new Day Jobs because there's really nothing in the way of doing that. I'm sure all those Day Job badge "lovers" out there are just happy to be reminded of that.
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Quote:Here's hoping for that "substance".Abandoning as many expectations for movies as possible has generally produced good results for me. I think the Sucker Punch that's being alluded to in the title refers to how they're choosing to represent the film in most trailers, which is an eye candy film, and the sucker punch is the substance.
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Quote:Claiming "a movie sucks compared to the book it came from" is hardly a valid way to damn any movie. Can you actually name me ANY movie that was "more in-depth" than the book it came from?Must be quoted again. Blade Runner sucked as it lacked the depth of its source. It was a very flat and uncompelling movie compared to the novella.
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Quote:Actually I'm not. I'm sure each of us could throw a mountain of evidence at each other to show why the other is wrong and at the end of it neither of us will have budged away from our current opinions one inch.I would happy to go into why I thought those films didn't deserve the praise they get, in case you're wondering.
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Quote:Perhaps I'd just rather be in the "expect it's going to suck and be pleasantly surprised when it's good" camp than the "assume it'll be good and then get disappointed when it isn't" camp. Call it strategy to maximize my enjoyment of a movie.There's being realistic and being a negative nancy. The latter tends to involve attempting to stamp out optimism where it's found.
If that makes me a Negative Nancy then I'll just have to live with that.
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Quote:There's always a place for the minority viewpoint. I guess to be honest things would be pretty dull in general if everyone always agreed about everything.You're right. I don't let the rankings and generally accepted perceptions of films to spackle over their glaring flaws. I'm pretty consistent about that.
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Quote:I'm optimistic that it has a -chance- to be a good movie.Yes. We've been getting nothing but optimism from you about this film.
To blindly assume it'll either be bad or good sight-unseen is foolhardy.
For example I'm a Wonder Woman fan but even on the recent ongoing thread in this forum about the upcoming Wonder Woman TV show I've conceded many times that it's very likely to be a crummy show despite my hopes for it.
Sorry if being realistic seems like such a downer to everyone.
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Other people have already assumed this movie "looks fine" from the trailer.
Why can't I think the opposite?
I already said earlier in this thread that I'm going to see this movie DESPITE the uncertainty I'm getting from the trailer.
Never let it be said that I don't express unjustified optimism from time to to time.
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Quote:Well at least your taste in movies is "consistent". I'll say that much for you.I don't really put that much stock in rankings like that anymore, especially after seeing how mediocre the first two Godfather movies were. And the same goes for Citizen Kane.
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Quote:Well I figured the mere mentioning of SyFy in this context was good enough without having to directly call you out on it.So you were trying to say my taste sucks for saying what I said? Just say that next time.


I ultimately don't really care if you didn't like Blade Runner or not. But at least you have to concede there's -some- reason why it's currently ranked #15 on IMDB.com's top 50 all-time Sci-Fi films list.
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Quote:Maybe, but to be honest I didn't see much wrong with it myself. From what I understand it has been much improved since it was first released. I honestly didn't have any problem with it.So if I use the NCSoft launcher once, and then burn all traces of it and go back to the normal CoH launcher, do I get to keep the aura?
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Quote:That's cool. I was just making the point that getting it on Live must have been a new change since this morning because that wasn't the case last night. Fun fun.The aura is live. Just checked.
And to get the launcher go here:
http://us.ncsoft.com/en/launcher/ncsoft-launcher.html
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Quote:As of last night when I used the new NC launcher I was getting the wisp aura unlocked on Test but not on Live. Of course things might have changed since then.Is there something special you have to do to get this new launcher? I played last night and there wasn't an update.
--NT
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It means pretty much what I said.
Most people generally look down on the typical dreck that SyFy has churned out over the last few years as a "bad thing" for actual science fiction. Let's just say if SyFy had had anything to do with Blade Runner it probably would have looked more like “Megapython vs. Gatoroid” or "WWE vs. Replicants".
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Quote:I can get cool visuals like this from countless other anime, manga and so on.Furio has gotten to the crux of genius. Oh, and mecha, can't forget the mecha. And dragons.

Here's hoping for cool visuals AND a good story.
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Quote:If I had to guess the people currently behind the SyFy channel probably share your views on this.It was definitely one of the more disappointing movies I'd seen because it'd been so hyped up over the years as one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time. Then I go to watch it and struggle to stay awake.
I might rewatch it again soon to reevaluate my take on it, but I've got Blu-Rays coming in that I'm actually interested in. >.>
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Quote:I've never said the ONLY way it can be good is if it has a tragic ending.I fail to see why it has to have a tragic ending to be good?
It can have a tragic ending and be good. Or it could have them escape and be good. Either done right could be a good movie.
You seem to be arguing that the only way it could be a good movie is if it ended tragically.
Frankly I think the clue is in the title. I have expected from the beginning that the ending will be a "Sucker Punch" to the audience.
But then again you must admit that if 98% of the movie has you thinking she's going to win and then all of a sudden in the last few moments they twist it around and kill her off that'd be a pretty good "Sucker Punch" to the audience as well. Just saying...
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Quote:If I had to guess they probably picked Hurley based more on her performace in Bedazzled than anything related to Austin Powers. She was after all the Devil in that movie so we know she can play a villian on some level. Besides everyone knows British accents = villain so she has that going for her too.Oh dear, it's really not going well!!


I mean, she was ok in Austin Powers and all that, but, no, just no.
What is it with Warner Brothers?? Can they not treat their own damn characters correctly??
I don't really have a problem with Hurley playing a Wonder Woman villain at face value.
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Quote:Maybe they'll actually make Blade Runner good this time around...Quote:Put me in the soulless line then.
Terrific idea. Awful execution. Damn near fell asleep trying to watch it. I've only fallen asleep during 2 movies in my life.
THX, I'm looking at you
I blame today's violent media, MTV... oh, and get off my lawn!Quote:Blade Runner was one of those movies that I struggled to sit completely through. And even then, I couldn't watch it in one sitting. I had to space it out over 3 or so nights because it was boring.
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Quote:Give them at least a few minutes to sort that out will ya?This won't be Blade Runner unless there is a theatrical release, a director's cut, an extended director's cut, and ultimate director's cut, an uber-ultimate director's cut, an ultra-extended uber-ultra director's cut and a definitive final supreme uber-ultimate extended remix director's cut.
Blade Runner's only had 30 years to work with to manage those shenanigans.
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Quote:All I'm saying is that there's no reason why this movie can't LOOK good and BE good at the same time.My suspension of disbelief is pretty easy to obtain! \o/ So I'm likely going to enjoy this movie either way it ends!
WHOOOOOT!
I realize that's usually too much to ask for now-a-days, but we can always dream can't we?
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Quote:Well like I said Blade Runner still looks pretty good... for a 30 year old movie. All I'm implying is that eventually it's going to look "dated" and that's not really a quality that's a "good thing" for science fiction.i honestly don't see what 2011 era CGI would add to the movie. Unless you gin up some hyper-elaborate sets or squirmy biomechanical effects simply to have an excuse for fancy CGI in the movie.
Part of what made the movie feel so real, and in many ways made it the archetypal cyberpunk movie, is that it effectively captured the feeling of a gritty, realistic noir future.
I'm not suggesting that they add a bunch of "hyper-elaborate sets or squirmy biomechanical effects simply to have an excuse for fancy CGI" but there are many things they could subtly to enhance the overall visual presentation. A good example of what I'm suggesting is the recent effort to remaster the Star Trek original series. In each remastered epsiode subtle color and sound tweaks were digitally made to improve the original footage. In some places the improvments are almost unnoticable, but the overall effect is very satisfactory.
Thus again like I said if they could recreate the story/plot quality of the 1982 film but apply GOOD USE of 2011 CGI we'd have a winner here. -
Quote:If we're going to give disparaging names to groups of badges we don't like then I'll add the "Epic Lite" badges that don't reflect the fact that I earned them all back before their requirements were nerfed and the "AE badges, minus the 70 or so the Devs removed from the game after I had earned them already" badges. I could even throw in "broken anniversary badges that don't award when they're supposed to" couldn't I Turg?

At least for many of us the Day Job badges are currently done and over with. There's no real point in poking more fun at them unlike the other badges I mentioned which still vaguely "affect" us even to this day. -
The story/plot/directing/acting will probably blow in these inevitable reboots compared to the original. But there's hope that with the latest CGI these movies could at least potentially -look- wonderful.
Blade Runner still visually looks great and it's almost 30 years old - imagine what a Blade Runner movie would look like if everything about the 1982 movie was the same except replaced with 2011 era CGI. We could only hope that's what we might get here.
