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Originally Posted by MAD UMLAUTS

Is that frost markins? O.O

Originally Posted by vindizzLe

There are courses available at MIT. I'm the professor.

Originally Posted by Mortilance

The bad thing about ninjitsu is the lack of KB protection which means you're going to want to build for at least 41 KB prot to avoid the most common KB .

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I just build for 41. I've never seen a bubbler in all my time playing PVP. And if the opposing team brings one you can just bring a kin.

Originally Posted by MAD UMLAUTS

Tokyo is Terminal Lad

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

and this

Originally Posted by Nihilii

I'd go with SD. You get almost everything - softcapped defenses, decent resistances that you can boost to great levels while in T9, decent max HP, close to capped DDR, slow resistance, an AoE KD that also deals high damage.

Plug the heal hole with Rebirth, or if you really, really want to go crazy with survivability, grab Aid Self and Barrier ; another option still is to go DM/SD/Barrier, with Judgement, Shield Charge and eventually the Pyre or Mu epic (can handle end costs through Cardiac alpha, which also slightly boosts resistance) AoE damage isn't as poor as it used to be on that combo.

... Um. You know, I never looked at it that way before typing it out just now, and I may just have convinced myself that I, also, want MORE!

Originally Posted by ZephyrWind

Sorry to change the subject, but could someone please tell me what this whole "pancake" obsession is recently? I've seen:

"Somebody pancakes in a trial"
"I pancaking love you"
And, the above "pancake it"

What's up with this?

Originally Posted by Miss_Freeze_NA

I'd have included your own veiled jabs at telling others they aren't playing/built right, but I see you've edited your previous post to remove them since you were called on it. Nice try though.

Originally Posted by Miss_Freeze_NA

Having spent the better part of the past few pages adamantly trying to convince people with a dissenting opinion from yours that they're somehow not built right or aren't playing right, I'm at a loss to see how you can justify your comment? Feel free to dismount your high horse at any time.

Good for you that your Regen doesn't die on iTrials. My experience and the experience of quite a few (7+ year veterans mind you) friends I team with regularly is that /SR and /SD far outperforms Regen any day of the week at endgame. I agree with those who've expressed that while this buff is nice, but it doesn't help the Regen set all that much.

Sorry... had been lurking this thread and found the reply funny.

Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior

I'd wager this is what happens to most of those posting here too... probably more often than not too. Some people just can't admit it though.

Originally Posted by Sentry4

And as always everyone is apparently entitled to dismiss numbers.

The chain was...

Chain induction/Charged brawl/Havoc punch/Charged brawl/Jacobs ladder/Charged brawl

with CB having 3 procs, and every other attack having 1 (also the -res proc in Jacob).

Scorch isn't as good as charged brawl and nothing FM has even compared to Chain's DPS. If we were to factor in Interface now? Ele would be even better because of the short animation times.

If you're going based off of experience, and had those experiences based off of Ele scrappers who took/used/spammed thunderstrike, i can't blame you, but the -res proc made a huge difference if i remember right.

2 Purple procs in this attack chain with 3 PvP damage procs, 1 Mako proc and 1 -res pvp proc.

Thought about the placate proc, was a cool idea but with a buzzsaw build was useless, especially with regen not needing (and should never use) aid self.

Originally Posted by Sentry4

FM in PvP is nothing like in PvE, I remember doing the DPS of all the scrapper primaries only to find out that a good MA build could out DPS it standing still. Electric Melee too. FM has a low DPS t1 which means you can't even spam procs as well as other sets and i believe it was Incinerate that was not even worth being in the chain while being held high up in DPS for PvE. Those numbers really change.

It was about a year ago i Min/Maxed every scrapper primary with regen to see which was the best and the worst, and FM was 4th last(?) and couldn't compete with good brute/tank builds either.

Since then my computer crashed and I lost all of it, now it's all memory and guessing with quick math.

Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior

All the math in the world is not going to make Regen more fun to me to play vs. my SR scrappers.




Unless it's a Psi attack or an unresistable attack or the off chance you get hit through MoG anyway (YES IM REACHING HERE).



30% resist to S/L does little to help against Psi, Fire, Energy, Cold, Dark etc. damage.

Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards

Instant Healing toggle returns, Scrappers tanking Hamidon, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Originally Posted by Diesel Punk

For the new Endgame content, with iTrials and things like the Apex and Tinmage TF, even the ITF and LGTF/STF, Regen is definitely a gutter dweller. Dies quick and can never manage to stay on its feet long enough to matter. Layered Defenses are more and more the optimal way to build.

Originally Posted by PowerFlame

rofl wtf who does this?

Originally Posted by Mercury_Down

Fight clubbing is a sub-culture of the PVP in this game and whether you agree or not there certainly is skill required in making a decent build, and (like ranged fights) knowing when to use certain powers and knowing how to respond to other builds. People tend not to move but there is no rule against it (imo.) They tend to stand still because they need to keep pressure on their opponent in order to get a kill (just like ranged toons only these are melee attacks so require you to stay close to keep the damage going.) The main reason people don't use insps in fight club is so someone can actually win a fight. As you may or may not know, melees are generally hard to kill. It can often take 8-9 minutes before there is a single kill with many close calls up until that point. I've got influence to spare so spend it on melee toons for fight club and it's a part of the game so why not?

It's interesting to me when people take an "elitist" attitude and cast disparaging remarks at fight clubbers and use words such as "skill" and "traditional" to indicate ranged battles are "superior" forms of PVP. Whatever. Fight club is just another form of PVP in this game. Some people enjoy it, others don't, and then some people feel the need to try and insult the people who do enjoy it.

Just a heads up, I also have plenty of of ranged toons I use for zone/arena duels/team play for KB and Leagues and so far I enjoy all forms of PVP in this game (i13 changes aside.) If people want to fight only in petless MM battles then all the power to them if that is what they enjoy. I am not going to say that kind PVP is wrong if those people like it. I am here to play the game the way I like, not judge other people for doing what they find fun.

Originally Posted by Mercury_Down

then they are bad kat/regens. <<<(thought they all where...)>.>

Also, what server do you play on? I'm on Freedom, I'll put my shield/ss against any melee toon you want to try against it. If you are on Freedom you already know my tank. If you are not then meet on test?